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Man Dies of Thirst During Survival Test
AP ^ | 5-2-2007 | ED WHITE

Posted on 05/02/2007 3:45:25 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist

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To: Popman

It’s also illegal in Texas. State law says that if you have water surplus to your own survival needs and someone asks you for water, you *must* give it to them.

It would also be another offense - failure to stop and render aid.


41 posted on 05/02/2007 4:23:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Types_with_Fist

There is no reason any man under your command should die of thirst if you have water available....

The guide should be prosocuted for manslaughter.....

I don’t care if the idiot pressed on or not....


42 posted on 05/02/2007 4:24:08 PM PDT by nevergore (?It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.?)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Wow... he could have been in a radio contest and had all the water he wanted for free.


43 posted on 05/02/2007 4:27:57 PM PDT by steveo (Is there anything else I can help you with today?)
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To: glock rocks
I would much rather spend a day in the desert at 6000 ft. and 100 degrees than an hour in Mobile at 90 degrees.

Try Parris Island in July and August some time.
95-105 degrees at 100% humidity. Actually, jungle gear will keep your skin cool in those conditions.

If that cat had been wearing a long sleeved cotton, flannel shirt, he would have not dehydrated or gotten so hot so fast. The sweat absorbed by the cotton keeps the skin cool and reduces the dehydration rate.

44 posted on 05/02/2007 4:32:46 PM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: HungarianGypsy; Cecily
If you are learning survival tips in a $3,000+ course, shouldn’t one of the tips be not to travel during the heat of the day when you are low on water and risk severe dehydration?

Makes sense to me. My son has been working on his wilderness survival merit badge. For each trip they were required to bring a certain amount of water.

If one of their clients didn't survive, they're not doing a good job of teaching survival.

45 posted on 05/02/2007 4:39:27 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Types_with_Fist

They all should have failed the course for not recognizing signs of impending death. Then the people who run the course could charge them again to take it over.


46 posted on 05/02/2007 4:41:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Types_with_Fist

So they get to stab sheep to death? Wow, what a neat trip. Sounds like the idiots running the place should get an animal cruelty charge thrown in.


47 posted on 05/02/2007 4:44:01 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: glock rocks

Set me loose on Rodeo Drive with an American Express Platinum card and a bottle of Perrier...now THAT’s survival!;)


48 posted on 05/02/2007 4:44:37 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Types_with_Fist

“During the early phase of the expedition, participants can drink water at the source only and cannot carry it with them.”

Bunch of stupid asses. At what point in “immersing” ones self in mother natures “embrace” does one drink water and then move on WITHOUT filling a canteen with water for later.


49 posted on 05/02/2007 4:46:33 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Centurion2000

In Texas it would be. To bad you would walk right pass him with your bottle of water.


50 posted on 05/02/2007 4:51:55 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Centurion2000
A quote from your page.

"The only thing necessary to insure the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

Practice what you preach.

51 posted on 05/02/2007 5:00:36 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Types_with_Fist
BOSS emphasizes personal growth through adversity, and using your wits to survive.

In a desert environment, that would include traveling by night, escpecially if there is a lack of available water.

52 posted on 05/02/2007 5:03:02 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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To: South40
"...and hallucinating so badly he mistook a tree for a person."

It's not the first time that has happened."

LOL!

53 posted on 05/02/2007 5:04:30 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: BearCub

No kidding. Water is probably the one thing that one can’t “acclimate” to the lack of to any appreciable degree. The body starts to conserve salt at some point, but that’s about it. The old maxim “ration your sweat, not your water” is recognition of this.

Eating food is important as well. That’s the “electrolyte” part they are talking about. Empty stomach means the water just runs through, along with electrolytes.


54 posted on 05/02/2007 5:05:51 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: TalBlack

I gotta wonder if they were even treating the water they were allowed to drink. Unless it’s a spring, most of the desert water supplies are chock-filled with intestinal bugs and bacteria, viruses, golly knows what.

These sorts of things take a couple weeks to manifest themself, well after “vacation” is over.


55 posted on 05/02/2007 5:09:26 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: glock rocks
...can do to a seaboard ego. unnngh...

For that I am not going to apologize for the next storm headed your way. Ha Ha...

56 posted on 05/02/2007 5:11:14 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: glock rocks

Used to live in that gulf coast muck...now I live in the intermountain west...I know what you mean...The Steambath down there...

I never travel without spare water. Ever.


57 posted on 05/02/2007 5:16:39 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Types_with_Fist

I have to wonder about the guides. They should at least have Wilderness EMT training. If so, they should have recognized his condition and done something about it. If not, they should be facing some charges.


58 posted on 05/02/2007 5:25:15 PM PDT by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; tubebender

Absolutely. I’d rather run a mile in the mountains at 90 degrees with a 40 lb pack than walk around the block in the heat and humidity of the deep south.

I suppose a lot of it depends upon the climate and elevation you’re used to. I hosted a group of cycling friends from Milwaukee up in the hills here (~9000 ft) who challenged this old fat fart to a footrace up a hill. For beer. Winner’s choice. LOL. They all petered out about a hundred yards up. Oxygen, don’t leave home without it. The Samuel Adams was wonderful.


59 posted on 05/02/2007 5:30:41 PM PDT by glock rocks (crazy mutant desert guy)
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To: Types_with_Fist

“I don’t have my brother anymore because no one would give him water.”

I’d say you don’t have your brother anymore because he was stupid.


60 posted on 05/02/2007 5:48:05 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice.)
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