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Giuliani: Conference on the New Immigrants
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani (nyc.gov) ^ | September 30, 1996 | Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 05/02/2007 10:54:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani
Conference on the New Immigrants
Cowles Auditorium, Minneapolis
Monday, September 30, 1996



Thank You, President Hasselmo, Minister Pagrotsky, Members of the faculty, Members and Friends of The Humphrey Institute...

I'm pleased to be with you this morning to talk about New Americans and New Immigrants.

This is a good time and place to discuss these vital issues.

"The North Star State" is now celebrating the 150th Anniversary of Swedish immigration to Minnesota.

Unless, of course, "The Kensington Stone" is right... in which case this would be the 634th anniversary of Swedish immigration of Minnesota.

Today, Minnesota is once again feeling the effects of immigration, this time from Southeast Asia, Mexico and South America.

But legal immigration should not be a cause for concern... in Minnesota or anywhere else.

Our country was built by the hands of immigrants.

A hundred and fifty years ago much of Minnesota was wilderness.

Look around this campus and this great city today and we see what immigrants have achieved.

Look what Dr. Hasselmo himself has accomplished... not bad for an immigrant from Sweden.

Today, potential university presidents are still arriving in America.

Just as they did in years past, immigrants are continuing to revitalize and reinvigorate the culture and economy of our cities and states.

But the view of immigration I just presented to you is not necessarily the one most often expressed by a majority of the politicians in America today...

Although this view has been the prevailing opinion throughout the majority of American History, and the clear preference of all our great leaders.

History shows that America goes through periods where people become fearful of immigration.

But eventually we return to the recognition that new Americans are good for our country.

We eventually realize that any effort to eliminate, reduce or unfairly burden immigrants -- if pushed to the extreme -- could destroy the very process that is the key to American success.

America became the most successful nation in history because of our constant process of re-evaluation, reform and revitalization, a process that is driven by immigrants who come here to create better lives for themselves and their children. We are constantly being reinvented, not just by the free flow of ideas but by the free flow of people.

This process has really defined the United States. It makes us what we are.

Abraham Lincoln said that Americans are not bound together by race, religion, or titles of nobility, but by a strong belief in democracy and opportunity.

But sometimes our belief in those ideals weakens. America today is going through a period where it doubts that we need new people.

In periods like this, fear prevails over optimism. Self doubt prevails over confidence.

Americans begin to think that our country is too crowded, or that there are not enough job opportunities.

When they see new people, they see problems.

I don't share that pessimism. When I see new people, I see new opportunities.

Much more often, I see people pursing the American Dream, people who are going to build and strengthen New York City, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and other cities around that country.

If I could take you out to Kennedy Airport -- which in many ways is the Ellis Island of today -- you would see people coming to America from many different parts of the world.

In some ways they may look different and speak differently that the immigrants who came through Ellis Island...

But the look in their eyes is the same.

You can see in their eyes the same determination... you can see that they are looking for a chance to build new lives in a country that provides freedom and opportunity.

And they are exactly what America needs.

They help our country tremendously. They help us with the work they do... they challenge us with new ideas, and with new perspectives.

They remind us how lucky we are, and that America is something special This is still the country where more people want to come than anywhere else.

Basically, new immigrants to America are no different than the old immigrants to America.

And the anti-immigration movement now sweeping the country is no different than earlier anti-immigration movements that have surfaced periodically in American History.

We need only look back at the "Chinese Exclusionary Act..." or especially at the "know-nothing" movement that swept America in the mid-nineteenth century.

The "Know-nothings" encouraged Americans to fear foreigners and stop immigration.

But one of our greatest leaders had the courage to stand up and oppose the "know-nothings."

He was our first republican president, Abraham Lincoln.

In 1855, Lincoln lamented the state of a nation that began with the phrase "All Men are Created Equal." "When the know-nothings get control," Lincoln wrote, "It will read: all men are created equal, except Negroes, and Foreigners and Catholics."

"If the know-nothings come to power," continued Lincoln, "I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy."

Abraham Lincoln was not solely a romantic about the value of immigration and neither am I.

The fact is, immigration makes economic sense.

Immigrants work hard, in New York City, foreign-born males are 10 percent more likely to be employed that native-born males...

Foreign-born women are employed at the same rate as native-born women.

In New York City, immigrants own businesses is higher percentages that other Americans.

And immigrants in New York City are 10 percent less likely that native-born Americans to be on Public Assistance.

Immigrants do their best. Nationwide, immigrants account for 50 percent of all Professors of Engineering.

And immigrants account for 21 percent of all US Physicians.

So if you take away or severely restrict immigration, you will take away American jobs and productivity.

Because immigrants are net contributors to our economy. They are creators of wealth. They pay their own way.

I said earlier that I'd like to take you to J.F.K. Airport and show you new Americans arriving.

And while we were out there in Queens, I would also take you to a community called Flushing, and show you how new Americans are contributing to our country.

Flushing is a community I have known all my life.

When I visited there is 1989, I was saddened to see that stores were closed, and businesses were fleeing the neighborhood.

Flushing was a community in serious economic distress.

Today it's a very different story. Stores are occupied. The streets are crowded, teeming with activity.

There are new restaurants, new businesses, new manufacturing, even a new hotel. This economic renaissance did not come from Government subsidies. It came from the hard work of people striving to build better lives.

And those people happen to be immigrants... new Americans.

Most are from Asia... from Korea, Vietnam, India and China.

Many don't speak English, which may give the impression that their children would be a burden to our school system.

But the fact is, their children often out-perform native-born students...

and we can see this same success story repeated throughout New York City. Brighten Beach is the home of a thriving Russian-American Community.

West Indian Immigration has helped to rebuild neighborhoods in Brooklyn.

In Jackson Heights, Latin Americans, South Americans and Caribbeans have created a dynamic community.

And strong immigration from Ireland is revitalizing whole areas of the Bronx and their success becomes our success.

Of course, there can also be problems attached to immigration. New Americans have problems, just like the rest of us.

But the big question is, does immigration add to our country more that it detracts?

Just look at New York City. Currently, more that 28 percent of New York's population is foreign born.

And New York is the richest and most successful city in the country.

Despite all the stereo-typing, New York is a city that strengthens our Nation's economy.

In fact, each year New York City sends to Washington, D.C. $9 billion more than it receives in return.

New York City's contribution to the National economy in effect subsidizes states like Georgia and Arkansas, which each receive about $1 billion a year more that they sent to Washington.

Much of the money that New York City contributes to other states was created by immigrants, and by the children of immigrants.

Indeed, the whole process of immigration is something the Republican Party should embrace.

Immigration was a core belief of a founder of the Republican party, Abraham Lincoln....

Competition is the heart of the Republican philosophy...and immigration clearly helps New York City compete.

So there is really no reason for the punitive anti-immigration legislation that we are now seeing in Washington.

Look what congress and the President have done with the new welfare law.

Legal immigrants are allowed in by the Federal Government, invited here at the rate of about 400,000 a year.

When they arrive, they are taxed on exactly the same basis as American citizens.

And given the higher rates at which they work and own businesses in New York City, they bring a lot of revenue to the Federal Government.

And yet, after having been invited here, and taxed like all other Americans, if they get in trouble the Federal Government washes its hands of the problem.

All of a sudden, immigrants become the responsibility of our States and Cities.

In my view this is not only unfair and unwise, it may be unconstitutional.

As Lincoln said, immigrants come here because they share our ideals. Is it right that we take their money as if they were citizens, but then discriminate against them if they need help?

I believe this is a violation of their fifth amendment rights. It violates due process. It is invidious discrimination.

The courts will eventually decide this issue, but Congress and the President should not leave it to the courts.

They should act now, before any more damage is done to the soul of America.

There has been a lot of anger, confusion and distortion about immigration. But most Americans, with their basic sense of fairness, will be able to see the unfair and possibly unconstitutional way that immigrants are being treated by the welfare and anti-immigration bills.

Illegal immigration is a different matter. I do not defend it. No one should break the law.

But preventing illegal immigration is the job of the Federal Government.

The United States has to do a lot better job of patrolling our borders.

If we can't stop illegal immigration, then we can't stop drugs and weapons from entering the country, either.

But in a country as large as ours, with our protection of individual liberty, and with a huge border that spans sea, deserts and mountains... and given the strong desire that people have to come to this country, the Federal Government may never be able to stop illegal immigration completely.

At best, all we can expect is that the Federal Government will do a better job of patrolling our borders.

The reality is, people will always get in. And the reality is, the Federal Government doesn't deport them.

In New York City, which has 400,000 undocumented immigrants, only about 1,500 a year are deported.

Under the new legislation, that number would -- at most -- double to about 3,000 out of 400,000.

So illegal and undocumented immigrants are going to remain, and even increase.

And nothing that is now being proposed in Washington would realistically change that very much.

In New York City, we recognize this reality. New York City's policy toward undocumented immigrants is called "Executive Order 124."

This order was issued seven years by Mayor Ed Koch and reissued by my predecessor, Mayor Dinkins, and by me.

"Executive Order 124" protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the I.N.S. while they are using city services that are critical for their health and safety, and for the health and safety of the entire City.

There are times when undocumented immigrants must have a substantial degree of protection.

For example, parents fearful of having their family deported may very well not send their children to public schools.

That could mean that a potential 70,000 to 80,000 undocumented children might remain hidden in apartments or be turned out on the streets.

And some of these children are citizens -- born in the U.S. -- even though their parents were not.

If their parents take them out of school, not only will these children suffer irreversible damage, they will most likely end up doing damage to the rest of society.

Similarly, illegal and undocumented immigrants should be able to seek medical help without the threat of being reported.

When these people are sick, they're just as sick and just as contagious as citizens... and could possibly become a danger to public health.

And everyone should understand the practicality of wanting undocumented immigrants to feel comfortable reporting criminals to the police.

Reporting criminals protects all people, citizens and non-citizens alike.

It makes absolutely no sense to create a dis-incentive for immigrants to report crimes.

Muggers don't ask for a green card. the Federal Government should not mandate State and City policies that have the effect of reducing the number of undocumented immigrants reporting crimes.

And yet section 434 of the new welfare reform law would effectively invalidate New York City's "Executive Order 124."

I know that our executive order offends some people. they ask, "Why should we pay to provide services for illegal immigrants?"

The answer is, "It's not only to protect them, but to protect rest of society, as well."

The Federal Government's effort to overturn "Executive Order 124" is not only bad policy, it is a possible violation of the fifth and tenth amendments of the U.S. constitution.

It is my opinion that it violates the fifth amendment because it discriminates unfairly and invidiously based their immigration status.

But perhaps even more fundamentally, under our constitution rights not granted to the Federal Government are reserved to the states.

The right at issue here is the ability of New York City to exercise its police power.

The framers of our constitution and the architects of our Bill of Rights debated whether to give police power to the Federal Government.

In the end, they determined that this power should be given to state and local Governments.

When Ed Koch signed "Executive Order 124" it was a classic example of New York City's police power being used to protect the health and well being of our city.

Most likely, the Federal Government will reply that controlling immigration is one of their core functions.

But this is a disingenuous argument. the Federal Government will be forced to argue that it has to treat undocumented immigrants unfairly in to order to discourage others from coming here.

Attempting to control immigration by creating a dis-incentive for a woman to report to the police that she has been beaten up by her husband is a very weak argument.

And it's a horrible position for the Federal Government to take.

Earlier this month i said that New York City would challenge the constitutionality of Section 434 of the new welfare law.

Today I am announcing that New York City will also challenge the constitutionality of the parts of that law that deny benefits to legal immigrants who pay taxes.

We believe it may well constitute a violation of their fifth amendment rights.

If congress wants to limit immigration, they should not do it by being unfair to the immigrants they permit to enter the U.S.

I hope Washington will come to realize that immigration is a positive force for America.

If punitive legislation harms the process of immigration, it could also harm the U.S. economy.

One reason we are a great country is that immigrants who come here are often courageous and ambitious.

It takes courage and ambition to leave your native country and start a new life in a new land.

That's why immigration can be such a powerful force for progress.

Yes, there are problems that need to be solved, especially with illegal immigration. But we should not be looking for scapegoats. We should be looking for answers.

The anti-immigrant agenda we're seeing in Washington is based on a philosophy that sees people as liabilities.

I believe the vast majority of Americans continue to see people as assets who contribute and create opportunities.

That's what we're seeing in New York City. And with a more enlightened attitude in Washington, that's what we could be seeing in America.

In the last century, forward-looking, enlightened Americans joined together to stop the "know-nothings."

The result was more immigration and an incredible economic expansion in the twentieth century.

Today, we must do the same. We must stand up to the modern isolationist movement, and ensure that America's next century is as prosperous as the last.

Thank you.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; clintoncountry; elections; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; illegalimmigration; immigration; rudyonimmigration

1 posted on 05/02/2007 10:54:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

What PROGRESSIVE thinking!


2 posted on 05/02/2007 11:02:37 PM PDT by Mark (REMEMBER: Mean spirited, angry remarks against my postings won't feed even one hungry child.)
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(((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING)))))


3 posted on 05/02/2007 11:05:47 PM PDT by Doofer (Run Fred Run........)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; Spiff; narses; Liz; wagglebee; indylindy; pissant; Paperdoll

More silliness from Rudy about immigration.


4 posted on 05/02/2007 11:08:52 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Why should we pay to provide services for illegal immigrants?”

The answer is, “It’s not only to protect them, but to protect rest of society, as well.”


Some of the best Orwellian Doublespeak I’ve ever heard.

5 posted on 05/02/2007 11:09:05 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Jim Robinson

B T T T


6 posted on 05/02/2007 11:12:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Doofer
Basically, new immigrants to America are no different than the old immigrants to America. And the anti-immigration movement now sweeping the country is no different than earlier anti-immigration movements that have surfaced periodically in American History.

He's clearly a bald headed, bold faced liar.

7 posted on 05/02/2007 11:13:07 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
There are millions more Mexican illegals than ALL the Irish, Italians, Germans and Polish that came over.
8 posted on 05/03/2007 12:20:43 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; HiJinx; gubamyster; Spiff; narses; wagglebee; indylindy; pissant; Paperdoll; ...

Posted on 04/25/2007 by Jim Robinson

The Rudy Giuliani Truth File in his own words and deeds - quotes, speeches, transcripts, clips, reports........This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds. Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, that you can find re:

NYC budgets,

NYC spending,

political appointments,

gun grabs,

connections to the gun control lobby,

lawsuits against gun manufacturers,

the truth about crime reduction in NYC,

private property grabs,

asset forfeitures,

abuses of office,

individual rights trampling,

constitution trampling,

violations of public trust,

violations of the rule of law,

national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911,

corruption, graft, bribes, favors,

union dealings, mob dealings,

business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts,

rainmaking for his business partners,

connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani’s government offices especially if he becomes president,

war profiteering,

his personal and business finances,

his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office,

illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby,

support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies,

NARAL connections and,

participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold,

connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies,

etc, etc, etc,

The Rudy Giuliani Truth File http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1823139/posts?page=51


9 posted on 05/03/2007 5:39:43 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Isolationist? Come on, Rootie. We aren’t objecting to legal immigration. We object to ILLEGAL invasion!


10 posted on 05/03/2007 7:40:26 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rudy’s got it all wrong. Illegals should be stopped at the borders and those that are here - should be deported. All branches of government should be involved in targeting them.

This has got to stop now.

Rudy does not represent what we need in our leadership.


11 posted on 05/03/2007 8:01:28 AM PDT by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: Jim Robinson
This order was issued seven years by Mayor Ed Koch and reissued by my predecessor, Mayor Dinkins, and by me.
"Executive Order 124" protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the I.N.S. while they are using city services that are critical for their health and safety, and for the health and safety of the entire City.
There are times when undocumented immigrants must have a substantial degree of protection.

Sounds similar to our "Special Order 40" here in L.A. The cops can't even QUESTION them on their legal status. The illegals here are a protected class.

Thanks for this post.

12 posted on 05/03/2007 8:01:59 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I used to be impressed, from a strictly scientific viewpoint, at the ability of the Clintons to lie as easily as they do. I didn't think I would see their like again in politics in my lifetime

But this Giuliani clown has given me reason to reevaluate that. He's every bit as good a liar as Hillary, and with just a bit of practice he could be Bill Clintons equal.

L

13 posted on 05/03/2007 8:07:37 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“In the last century, forward-looking, enlightened Americans joined together to stop the “know-nothings.”

The result was more immigration and an incredible economic expansion in the twentieth century.

Today, we must do the same. We must stand up to the modern isolationist movement, and ensure that America’s next century is as prosperous as the last.”

LEGAL immigration Rudy, Not ILLEGAl.

..in otherwords screw the law and those who try to uphold that law are “know-nothings.” and must be stopped..”We must stand up to the modern isolationist movement”

This is truly one scary dudess.


14 posted on 05/03/2007 8:15:25 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America ...Hunter '08.)
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To: Jim Robinson
This process has really defined the United States. It makes us what we are.

Really, Rudy? And I thought it was our Bill of rights, constitution, rule of LAW and the blood and sweat of Americans.

There are so many things wrong with his speech that it's not worth the bother to point them all out.

15 posted on 05/03/2007 9:24:42 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
There are so many things wrong with his speech that it's not worth the bother to point them all out.

I agree. It's like he just copied some leftist, rehashed talking points.

16 posted on 05/03/2007 10:03:34 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Lurker; dragnet2; All

We would all do well to remember the facts presented last night by Robert Rector of Heritage: 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country. What is the cost of amnesty? The fiscal cost of amnesty for illegal aliens in the country?

ROBERT RECTOR, HERITAGE FOUNDATION: Illegal aliens cost a lot at the present time, but if you give them amnesty, one effect is that they will all have access to Social Security, Medicare, this program called Supplemental Security Income, Medicaid when they retire, OK?

So the real impact of amnesty would be — let’s say you have 12 million people. You give them amnesty. The impact of that, the net requirement cost alone would be negative $2.5 to $3 trillion. Negative $2.5 to $3 trillion.

DOBBS: $2.5 to $3 million?

RECTOR: Yes. And that’s with 12 million. You’re taking 10 million people and putting them into Social Security. That is one of the biggest budget impacts — that is the single budget — biggest budget impact I’ve seen in a quarter of a century. It’s fantastically expensive, and it is fantastically irresponsible for Congress to be contemplating that, and they don’t have a clue in the world, they don’t care what it will cost. RECTOR: You know what? If you look at low-skill immigrants, OK, which most illegals are, in fact, in every stage of their life cycle, they take more in benefits than they pay in, in taxes.

Each — each low-skilled immigrant — and illegals are predominantly low-skilled immigrants — that comes across to the United States, if they bring a family with them, the net cost that they impose on the taxpayers, benefits received minus taxes, is over $1 million over their lifetimes. It’s fantastically expensive.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/02/ldt.02.html


17 posted on 05/03/2007 1:23:57 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Impressive documentation.

Thanks


18 posted on 05/03/2007 5:54:26 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Jim Robinson

Rudy won’t get my vote.


19 posted on 05/03/2007 7:19:28 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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