Posted on 05/03/2007 6:33:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
President Bush and congressional leaders began negotiating a second war funding bill yesterday, with Democrats offering the first major concession: an agreement to drop their demand for a timeline to bring troops home from Iraq.
Democrats backed off after the House failed, on a vote of 222 to 203, to override the president's veto of a $124 billion measure that would have required U.S. forces to begin withdrawing as early as July. But party leaders made it clear that the next bill will have to include language that influences war policy. Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) outlined a second measure that would step up Iraqi accountability, "transition" the U.S. military role and show "a reasonable way to end this war."
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But there still is death and violence, undermining surge! What the devil could he possibly mean, “Either we’ll succeed, or we won’t succeed. And the definition of success as I described is sectarian violence down. Success is not no violence … ”
What do you think, this is about fighting a war? Please.
Bush on the ropes as Democrats, flashing defiance and bristling, retreat on surrender initiative!
Chimpy, “I’m the commander guy,” still saying funny things! Woe is us! Who does this guy think he is, emperor or something? ”When will he get it?”
We win, they lose? Get real! Only by losing can we win!
Hey, how come you losing-loser winner guys don’t start a draft if you want to win so much! The only way to win is to surrender! (caution: enraged lefty potty mouth)
Allah be praised! Iraqi debt relief a trickle.
Rice sees light, capitulates to Pelosism. Must be a trick!
In conclusion the traitors lost, President Bush, our brave troops, and America won this latest battle. More battles to come.
Iraq pleads for funds to rebuild
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Iraq's prime minister has appealed for other countries to write off its debts, at the start of a summit called to try to rebuild and stabilise the country.
Nouri Maliki urged delegates at the talks in Egypt to help "build a united, democratic and federal Iraq".
Rich nations and regional powers are meeting for two days of talks in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.
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By ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published May 3, 2007 <
BAGHDAD - The U.S. military said Wednesday that its troop buildup in Baghdad was nearly complete.
The Demos haven’t quit....it’s part of their plan....
You mean they planned to put a time line surrender in the first bill knowing that they will be forced to remove it from a second bill?
The Demodogs don’t yet think they’ve lost. This is not the time for complacency. It is not the time to stop being vocal in support of our Commander-in-Chief, our troops, and their mission(s) throughout the world.
Though the Demodogs had to pork it up to buy sufficient votes to to even pass that bill to begin with, Republicans must be persuaded that staying the course is the right thing to do for Iraq and the world. If pressure is not maintained on Congress, they will believe that we don’t support, without condition, the Iraqis fight.
Good intentions notwithstanding, benchmarks poorly thought out, with some automatic trigger mechanism, can also be something AlQ and other “insurgents” will latch on to defeat us in the WoT.
Those so called Blue Dog Rats elected last year may be in real trouble in some districts if they voted against President Bush.
“Those so called Blue Dog Rats elected last year may be in real trouble in some districts if they voted against President Bush.”
So far they’ve voted strictly as Pelosi Lap Dogs from what I’ve seen. And I do believe you are correct. The same voter attitude that made John Edwards a one term Senator with no hope of reelection is at work here.
Great labels for these pos reps, “So far they’ve voted strictly as Pelosi Lap Dogs from what I’ve seen.”
Nancy Girly Boy Lap Dogs is perfect for these frauds.
Thanks. I read something about their voting patterns in either The Weekly Standard or National Review a few weeks back.
Perfect!
I think it was pretty much a party line vote...with Kucinich saying present and about 6 or 7 Demos Not Voting....
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All Eyes on Baghdad
All the pros and cons on the war have been aired. We’ve read all the tell-all books by Woodward, Ricks, Gordon, Trainor and the rest that now contradict the arguments and theses of what they wrote about the 1991 war—that then we should have done what we are doing now, which in turn should now be what we had done then.
All the once insider geniuses like Clark, Scheuer, O’Neil and Tenet have sold their tell-all accounts in which they were brilliant and all else obtuse. Feith has been called a dumb _____ by almost everyone in DC. Libby is facing jail for something or other, but most certainly not what the Special Prosecutor was supposed to be looking for; Wolfowitz faces an ouster: so much for bringing up to your board that you might have a conflict of interest down the road.
We’ve suffered through the distortions of Michael Moore and know that Cindy Sheehan once thanked President Bush for meeting with her. We’ve heard that the US military is akin to Saddam, Nazis, Pol Pot, or Stalin from the likes of Sens. Durbin and Kennedy, that America is a pariah from Sen. Kerry, that the war is lost from Sen. Reid and Howard Dean, and about everything imaginable from poor Sen. Biden.
We know that the Clintons once tried to restore their fides on national security by railing about Saddam’s WMD program, both before and after September 11. There has been a revolt of the generals and CIA operatives, that in addition to demonstrating opposition to the war, showed just how angry top brass are at our restructuring the military and /or intelligence agencies.
The Celebs have weighed in, and now we know that the Dixie Chicks, Sean Penn, Barbra Streisand, Rosie, the Donald, and Alec Baldwin are as ignorant as they are vehement and vicious in their pronouncements.
We’ve seen all the supposed landmark stories come and go: Dick Cheney’s shotgun, the supposed flushed Koran, the forged memos about Bush’s National Guard service, the doctored photos from Beirut, the slips from CNN brass about bias, the implosion of Dan Rather, the blood lust for Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Gonzalez, et. al. None of them did anything illegal; all of them were hounded by the press to resign—all of whom Republicans thought if these just go, the Left will stop, when in fact its appetite was only fed.
All that has come and gone, and we are left in the end with the verdict of the battlefield. The war will be won or lost, like it or not, fairly or unjustly, in the next six months in Baghdad. Either Gen. Petraeus quells the violence to a level that even the media cannot exaggerate, or the enterprise fails, and we withdraw. For all the acrimony and hysteria at home, that in the end is what we face—the verdict of all wars that ultimately are decided by the soldiers, and then either supported or opposed by the majority at home with no views or ideology other than its desire to conform to the narrative from the front: support our winners, oppose our losers. In the end, that is what this entire hysterical four years are about.
Win Iraq in the sense of a government stabilizing analogous to Kurdistan or Turkey, and even at this late hour, pundits and politicians will scramble around to dig up their 2002-3 quotes supporting the war, while Hollywood goes quiet and turns to more sermons on Darfur.
Sad, but true.
You’re 100% spot on.
"House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (Md.) indicated that the next bill will include benchmarks for Iraq -- such as passing a law to share oil revenue, quelling religious violence and disarming sectarian militias -- to keep its government on course. Failure to meet benchmarks could cost Baghdad billions of dollars in nonmilitary aid, and the administration would be required to report to Congress every 30 days on the military and political situation in Iraq."
"White House officials are also looking to benchmarks as an area of compromise, but they want them to be tied to rewards for achievement, not penalties for failure."
"But that approach would be too weak even for moderates from both parties. Already, liberal Democrats think that public opinion and circumstances in Iraq are on their side, and they view benchmarks alone as far too weak. House Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey (Wis.) has repeatedly told Democratic leaders that he would not report a war funding bill out of his committee that he could not support. Pelosi is also reluctant to embrace such a compromise until she sees how far congressional Republicans are willing to bend."
Thanks. Surprised Kucinich didn’t vote Aye.
Hey Murtha-[obvious expletive deleted]: the “reasonable way to end this war” is victory, and the fastest way to victory is to dump all you Dhimmicrats.
Thanks E.
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