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'Out-of-control' mormons guilty of child cruelty
24Dash ^ | 02/05/2007 | Jon Land

Posted on 05/03/2007 10:48:30 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: GoLightly

True. Keep reading. I see the light. lol.


61 posted on 05/03/2007 11:51:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Eewww

Let me be the first to say (in a nonhate speach sort of way)

That’s SO gay....


62 posted on 05/03/2007 12:03:18 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: Gamecock
Replace the word "Mormon" with "Evengelical Christian", "Catholic", "Jewish", or your own faith in this article and then come back and tell me if you think the article has a bigotous slant or not.

Are you saying that it is impossible for a mormon to do something like this?

Never said such a thing (nice touch taking my post WAY out of context btw /rolls eyes). It's possible. It's also possible for members of any other religion to do the same sort of thing.

What's the difference? If a Mormon does it Mormons and non-Mormons get to sit through pages and pages of posts by anti-Mormon bigots who can't seperate the crimes of individuals from the LDS Church as a whole.

63 posted on 05/03/2007 12:04:15 PM PDT by Domandred
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To: Gamecock; Utah Girl

Two unrelated women met at a Mormon temple 10 years ago, took up cohabiting at least 9 years ago, and somehow accumulated 6 six children between them, including a 2 year old. And at least one of them is far too old to have given birth to the 2 year old. Where the heck did these kids come from?

These two may have dropped by a Mormon church from time to time, but they sure as heck weren’t active Mormons, and may not even be church members (I suspect the reference to the “temple” may just be the writer’s lack of familiarity with the colossal difference between a Mormon temple and a Mormon church meeting building. I’m not a Mormon, but attempting to draw any connection between the Mormon religion and culture, and this family’s activities, is a stretch beyond the breaking point.


64 posted on 05/03/2007 12:08:23 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Domandred
I post articles about Evangelicals as well so stop with your hypocrisy.
65 posted on 05/03/2007 12:13:15 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel Provides What The Law Demands)
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To: Maria S

The news source is in the UK. I doubt the writer even gives much thought about Governor Romney, or if he has even heard of him to begin with.


66 posted on 05/03/2007 12:14:29 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: napscoordinator
I have a confession to make now. All three of my sons were biters. I made the oldest bite a peppercorn. After one time if he got the gleam in his eye I’d say to him that he looked like he needed something to bite & that I would provide something. He’d cover his mouth with both hands, “nooooo”.

Don’t know what happened to the rest of the peppercorns by the time I had the second & third sons. Found out the middle son really liked hot pickled peppers. After one taste he began to pester his father, whenever his dad pulled out his favorite snack. Found out the youngest liked onions. I’d ask him “the question” & he’d peel an onion for himself.

The most common advice given to parents dealing with biters back then was to bite the child. I assume your kids are younger than mine. What’s the common advice about biting these days.

67 posted on 05/03/2007 12:17:01 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: napscoordinator

Trust me, NONE of this had anything to do with Mormon church teachings or practices. First of all, two cohabiting women acquiring children together (note that at least one of the children, and almost certainly, were born after within the 9 year period that these women have been operating this torture facility) is completely outside the bounds of Mormon teaching. On top of that, if this was an active Mormon family, the children would have been in regular contact with their bishop, home teachers, and the leaders of the Primary, Young Men’s, and Young Women’s program, including private interviews with the bishop prior to baptism at age 8 and (for the boys) priesthood ordination at age 12. No way could this have gone on for 9 years. MAYBE, in an unusually messed up Mormon ward (parish) something like this could have gone in a household with a married couple, headed by a priesthood-holding member father, if the husband/father had the wife and kids too cowed to complain to Church leaders. But with this very unorthodox 2-woman couple, which continued to acquire children together, they would have been targets for very close scrutiny by the local leaders.


68 posted on 05/03/2007 12:22:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: hellinahandcart
This type of Mormon Bashing p*sses me off. Half my family is Original, Day One, LDS including some long time FReepers.

This is politics, Romney, was a lousy Gov of Mass and is a rino like his father, will I vote for him, No. If Mitt was elected would he govern in a Constitutional manner, yes, would he let his religion dictate, no.

69 posted on 05/03/2007 12:26:06 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: irishtenor; ClearCase_guy
Well guys, if they don’t identify the religion of the perps, how can they expect gin up anti-mormon sentiment?

I suspect the abuse of the children is only mentioned to showcase how horribly evil these “crazed Mormon cultists” really are.

70 posted on 05/03/2007 12:26:14 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Gamecock
Mountain Meadows

They are making a feature movie of Mountain Meadows.

Hm...And bets that it will come to the theaters just in time to smear Mitt Romney,,and indirectly,,,the Republican party and all God believing people.

71 posted on 05/03/2007 1:00:50 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: GoLightly

I know many parents that do this which I don’t think is abuse, but this women went over the line IMHO. It taught them that the biting is not worth it. lol.


72 posted on 05/03/2007 1:06:03 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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It seems that in most of threads that talk about Mormonism someone posts some sort of drivel about Mormon beliefs in an attempt to shock other Christian readers. Here are my answers to one post that keeps appearing.

“1. Mormons can become gods and goddesses.”
This idea was commonly taught by Christians of other denominations in the past. For instance, in Mere Christianity, published half a century ago, C. S. Lewis says that it’s the destiny of humanity to become like God.

“2. Goddesses will spend eternity in full submission to their god-husband.”
A requirement to becoming like God is the become One with God. If a Husband and Wife are One with God then both will be submissive to the Will of God.

“3. Mormon women will give birth “forever and ever” to spirit-babies.”
Most people will say that their greatest joy comes from their children. Mormons hope to continue having the joy of creating and nurturing new individuals in the hereafter.

“4. Mormon men can have multiple wives in heaven—eternal polygamy.”
Righteous polygamy is ordained by God. See 2 Sam 12:7-8 (’Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom ...’)

“5. Heavenly Father is an exalted man who lives with his goddess wife, Heavenly Mother, on a planet near the great star Kolob.”
There is no Mormon doctrine about a Heavenly Mother, however, many Mormons feel strongly that if there is a Heavenly Father then there must also be a Heavenly Mother.

“6. American Indians are descendants of the wicked Lamanites, who were Israelites that God cursed with dark skin.”
There are many things that point to the American Indians as an Hebraic people. For instance, I’ve found over 300 words in the Mayan Kiche language that appear to have Hebrew roots.

“7. God the Father had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus, who is the half brother of Lucifer.”
There is no doctrine like this about the conception in the Mormon church. Mormons believe, like other Christians, that the conception of Jesus came through the agency of the Holy Ghost. Mormons also believe that Lucifer and Jesus are both creations of God and in that sense they are brothers.

“8. All Christian churches are an abomination.”
The true Mormon teaching is that all churches that praise God with their words, but harden their hearts against God are an abomination.

“9. Mormons need 4 secret handshakes to get into the Celestial heaven.”
Mormons believe that if a person has faith in Jesus Christ as his/her Saviour and tries to live in a Christ-like manner, then God will provide them with whatever they need to enter the Kingdom of God.

“10. Joseph Smith revealed that the actual Garden of Eden is in Jackson County, Missouri.”
So what?


73 posted on 05/03/2007 1:17:07 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: napscoordinator
Yes, this woman’s actions were way over the line. Also, what was described doesn’t sound in the least bit like natural consequences.

When my son refused to go to bed, I kept him up until about three in the morning. He wasn’t allowed to do anything in the least bit entertaining & I had to wake him up a couple of times. He was begging me to let him go to bed. Never had a bedtime problem with him after that. The other two just sort of followed his lead, though it could be because the middle one loved bedtime. He’d put himself to bed early if he was tired.

Kids started fighting in the car, I’d pull off the road & get out. I didn’t care if it made them late for something, that car was not moving. Fighting with each other at home, they were sent to a room together until they worked things out.

The woman in the story was just a bully & the things she did to the kids weren’t discipline, they were an exercise of power for the sake of power.

74 posted on 05/03/2007 1:27:26 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: napscoordinator
That's alright.

Mitt seems like a good candidate to me; he's INFINITELY preferable to McCain or Guiliani. A lot of Frepers have hammered on him because of his alleged flip-flopping on the issues, he's a RINO, etc. He's from Massachussetts so he's got liberalism all over his shoes. But he seems like a good, honorable man to me. Plus he's photogenic and has nice hair, which goes a long way in presidential elections! :-)

Me, I'm just waiting for Fred Thompson to throw his hat into the ring and make all this discussion moot. I wish he'd hurry up!

75 posted on 05/03/2007 1:44:44 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree.


76 posted on 05/03/2007 1:52:07 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Cymbaline

Me too. But if he does not run we have to have an alternative. I think Romney might be ok. He at least has had one successful marriage.


77 posted on 05/03/2007 1:52:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: GoLightly

Methinks their prison meals are likely to be getting some extra “seasoning” that the other prisoners’ meals don’t get.


78 posted on 05/03/2007 1:56:39 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Cymbaline
Actually I just saw Mitt Romney on Tonight Show literally. I am stationed in Italy and we are one night behind. So far I am very impressed. They are on commercial right now so they will come back for more discussion. He ran the Olympics in Utah after some scandals and made them a success. His wife has MS and they have been together since he was 18 and she was 15 (Jay made a joke of course, but in good humor). This is the type of information that just does not get out to the people. The only thing they seem to report on him is that he is Mormon and that he was Governor of Mass. He seems to be much more than that.
79 posted on 05/03/2007 2:04:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Be interesting if they had a smart judge who included it in their sentencing.


80 posted on 05/03/2007 2:32:33 PM PDT by GoLightly
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