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FAA plan hits small planes (General aviation in uproar, proposal would triple fuel tax)
commercialappeal.com ^ | May 3, 2007 | Jane Roberts

Posted on 05/04/2007 2:08:00 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares

To finance the nation's aviation system through 2017, the FAA is proposing swooping changes in its funding structure, including more than tripling taxes on fuel for small planes. The uproar among the general aviation community -- which includes all planes outside commercial and military use -- has been loud and constant, according to the Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association, which represents more than 411,000 pilots.

"We surveyed our members before the FAA's proposal came out," said Chris Dancy, spokesman. "At the level the FAA is proposing, 88 percent said they would dramatically reduce or even cease flying." General aviation, which generates 16 percent of the cost of running the nation's air system, pays 3 percent of the costs in a funding formula subsidized heavily by taxes on passenger tickets, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

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KEYWORDS: aopa; aviation; faa; flying; generalaviation; pilots; socialism
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Were not all rich those of us who fly GA aircraft. It is already expensive enough believe me! But it is still an attainable dream.

This is a bad call and hope the Bush Administration wakes up on this issue.

This is a TAX, and it will hurt the grassroots of aviation everywhere.

1 posted on 05/04/2007 2:08:03 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“Riding lawn mower Tax” is next.


2 posted on 05/04/2007 2:12:42 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

FAA has historically considered General Aviation to be a pain in the backside. Their approach is that it’s easier to keep track of a few planes carrying thousands of people than to keep track of thousands of planes carrying a few people. It’s human nature, laziness really.


3 posted on 05/04/2007 2:33:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“At the level the FAA is proposing, 88 percent said they would dramatically reduce or even cease flying.”

I think that is the intention of the tax. ‘Too many’ private aircraft owners are fly VFR and not filing flight plans. Department of Homeland Security feels that the security of the nation is in danger due to this trend.

They can’t come out and say so because of their “Preserving our Freedoms” statements.


4 posted on 05/04/2007 2:36:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

By Jane Roberts
May 3, 2007
To finance the nation’s aviation system through 2017, the FAA is proposing swooping changes in its funding structure, including more than tripling taxes on fuel for small planes.

Jane, what exactly are swooping changes?


5 posted on 05/04/2007 2:38:52 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

However, with VLJ’s right around the corner, I suspect we are on the cusp of a big rise in air taxi and other services which will require an expansion of GA airports.

If that’s what the money is used for, then OK with me.

Not sure what they mean by tripling taxes though. How much per tankfull are we really talking about?


6 posted on 05/04/2007 2:43:56 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

First liberals try to take your guns, then your mobility.


7 posted on 05/04/2007 2:51:23 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Aeronaut

ping


8 posted on 05/04/2007 2:51:44 PM PDT by raygun (The Farmers' Almanac doent include all tears shed by Chuck Norris in its annual rainfall figures)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

What’s the average per-gallon price of AvGas right now?


9 posted on 05/04/2007 2:54:03 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

ping


10 posted on 05/04/2007 2:54:37 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Charles Martel

About $4.80 / gal.


11 posted on 05/04/2007 2:58:11 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: Wiseghy

WG,

I think all this hoopla is because of the VLJ to get them to “Pay the Vig”.

Go to opensecrets.com and see who Oberstar gets all his $ from.

The Union for the controllers lambasted Eclipse the other day. I do not want to be a conspiracy nut, but as they have been on the cusp of their production certificate they have had one curve ball after another in the last month or two.

The Eclipse is a paradigm changer, in my opinions the Airlines, and the Unions that support them are scared, big time.....

Taildragger


12 posted on 05/04/2007 2:59:13 PM PDT by taildragger
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To: Kevmo

What I fear is where will our pilots come from?

What happens with the kid dreaming of flight?

Less and less airports too.

My father always told me I could learn to fly too when I was a kid. We watched the aircraft taking off from our local GA airport. He would take me to visit the aiport and see the planes up close.

And as a young man I did learn.

How many young people walk away when they see how much it costs to learn to fly today?

How many kids are even told they could learn to fly at all?

Lets not even get into how long it takes for someone to actually make a living at it.

The health of American aviation begins at the bottom with that kid dreaming at the local GA airport.

We should not betray that by making it even harder.


13 posted on 05/04/2007 3:11:28 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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How many young people walk away when they see how much it costs to learn to fly today?
***Count me among them. I never had the wherewithal even though I always wanted to do it. My plan was to go & get an aeronautical engineering degree and then design my own airplane (have a lot of design parameters flushed out — based upon suction for boundary layer control) and then when I get my license, the expense would be tax deductible. But it never happened because the bottom dropped out of the aero industry and the aero majors I knew at Cal Poly SLO were not getting jobs — even guys with 3.8 GPAs. The handwriting was on the wall for me and I switched over to Electrical Engineering. It’s been a continued war of attrition for General Aviation ever since, with the result that airplanes became an Appreciating asset! Whoda thunk?


14 posted on 05/04/2007 3:17:55 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Been a long while since I flew but my Piper ran on autogas. I couldn’t afford avgas even then, and my plane already had a type certificate for car gas. Many, many trips to the airport with five gallon cans and a ladder.
15 posted on 05/04/2007 3:24:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

bookmark


16 posted on 05/04/2007 3:52:14 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
swooping changes

That's what light planes do, sometimes.

17 posted on 05/04/2007 3:55:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Wiseghy
if I was a GA bugsmasher pilot flying out of an uncontrolled fields I would seriously be questioning what benefit I would see from the increased taxes.

The bigger issue on VLJs is going to be the handling they require. How many aircraft is the FAA going to be able to handle in the 180-280 block?

18 posted on 05/04/2007 3:58:23 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; RightWhale
Swooping changes are sweeping changes that make you go, "Oh-oh!"   That is, O O!

HF

19 posted on 05/04/2007 4:05:19 PM PDT by holden
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To: Centurion2000

Next your thoughts — with the thought crime bill just passed by the House.


20 posted on 05/04/2007 6:57:29 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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