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Taxing women less: Gender pay equity?
Star Tribune ^ | 05/06/07 | Mike Myers

Posted on 05/06/2007 7:34:16 AM PDT by Phantom Lord

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To: EagleUSA

“Let’s make EVERY U.S. citizen pay a flat tax (fair tax, whatever)...”

I favor a “Lump Sum” tax. Every adult pays the same dollar amount in taxes, regardless of income, employment, education, marital status, number of children, etc: The same dollar amount, no deductions.

Liken it to purchasing a car. If a car dealer sells a car for $15K, the car costs 15K. Period. Say you make twice as much money as I do. The dealer won’t charge me half of what he would charge you just because I make half of what you do.

If you or I can’t pay for the car, we don’t buy it.

If you or I can’t pay the lump sum tax, we don’t vote.

Every adult pays the same dollar amount. What could be more fair than that?


41 posted on 05/06/2007 8:32:56 AM PDT by DangerDanger ("I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Phantom Lord
Since this is libs who are putting this forward I wonder if this will include the trans-gendered?

After all, we can’t have any discrimination.

So we all just check female. :-)

42 posted on 05/06/2007 8:32:59 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Phantom Lord

I like this idea. Will put my company in wifes name.


43 posted on 05/06/2007 9:00:09 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Phantom Lord

The printed tax code today is only 10 stories high. Let’s double it.


44 posted on 05/06/2007 9:03:34 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Phantom Lord

Link to PDF of the academic paper by these two bozo “economists”:

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/alesina/papers/genderbasedtaxation-0307.pdf

(And why in hell are two Italians telling the U.S. how to tax its citizens?)


45 posted on 05/06/2007 9:14:13 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: DangerDanger
Liken it to purchasing a car. If a car dealer sells a car for $15K, the car costs 15K. Period. Say you make twice as much money as I do. The dealer won’t charge me half of what he would charge you just because I make half of what you do.

Dealers generally have a variety of cars for people to choose from. Some people would find a $15,000 car too expensive, and so would buy something cheaper. Others would find a $15,000 car unsatisfactory, and so would buy something more expensive. I am unaware of any government offering anything like that option.

46 posted on 05/06/2007 9:18:34 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Chode
lets see... a guy is offered a job for $X and he says no, he is then offered $X+x and takes the job.

a woman is offered the same $X for an identical job in the same department and she takes $X.

If the woman is just as good as the guy, why would the employer want to pay $X+x for a worker when it could get the same work performed for $X?

47 posted on 05/06/2007 9:19:57 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat
Image hosted by Photobucket.com employers ALWAYS give the lowest price first, and most men know that, and will try to bargain for a better position.(better pay/perks/vacation/etc)

for what ever reason(according to HR people i have known) women are less likely to bargain for their job.

and THAT... is not my problem.

48 posted on 05/06/2007 9:42:15 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Chode
employers ALWAYS give the lowest price first, and most men know that, and will try to bargain for a better position.(better pay/perks/vacation/etc)

Yes, but if there are two equally-good applicants for a job, why wouldn't an employer hire the one who would work cheaper?

49 posted on 05/06/2007 9:43:13 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Phantom Lord; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
Lower income-tax rates for women while raising them for men, according to Harvard University economist Alberto Alesina, who calls the idea "discrimination, the good kind."





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50 posted on 05/06/2007 9:46:18 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

LOL


51 posted on 05/06/2007 9:47:29 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: supercat
Image hosted by Photobucket.com read my first post... there were TWO openings!!!

he got one and she got the other. he just bargained for better pay than she did. see what i mean?

not to mention they could BOTH be under paid for what they are doing because they company low balled them to start with.

52 posted on 05/06/2007 9:49:26 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Phantom Lord

And i was lamblasted for criticizing the Ivy League loony liberalism which has been destroying our country?


53 posted on 05/06/2007 10:01:33 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: SandRat
If a woman earning $35K with a family of 2 is given a tax break ... and the woman gets that tax break just because of her gender; it’s constitutionally illegal.

Has constitutionality ever deterred feminazis?

54 posted on 05/06/2007 10:03:19 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: EGPWS

Maybe if they were taxed (to help cover jacking up our school & medical costs) they’d stay in Mexico where they belong. Not likely I know, but would still be nice.


55 posted on 05/06/2007 10:17:52 AM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: freespirited
Has constitutionality ever deterred feminazis?

Neither has empirical logic nor has steadfastness and universal application of the "principles" that they claim to hold so dear.

56 posted on 05/06/2007 10:22:20 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Phantom Lord

If we are going to tax women less than men ought we, then, not pay men considerably more than women [much more than the difference they’re paid now] because men will need higher wages to pay for the difference in income tax?


57 posted on 05/06/2007 10:50:50 AM PDT by curmudgeonII (Dum spiro spero.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Is there any end to the bad, horrible, unworkable, evil ideas that social engineering liberals can come up with??

Obviously there isn’t.

Can’t make everybody happy, eh? Let’s let the social engineers be the unhappy ones. Perhaps they should just admit that their goals are not desired.

58 posted on 05/06/2007 10:56:21 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: sionnsar

OK, I can buy that lower taxes on people over 55, and for engineers. :) And for everybody, for that matter.

Just abolish the income tax, and fire the bureaucrats.


59 posted on 05/06/2007 10:57:46 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: Phantom Lord
I have long been a pre-op, pre-hormone treatment lesbian trapped in a man's body.

Do I get a tax break?

60 posted on 05/06/2007 5:37:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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