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Syrupy killer in medicine bottle
New York Times via Chron.com ^ | May 6, 2007 | WALT BOGDANICH and JAKE HOOKER

Posted on 05/06/2007 8:43:15 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Edited on 05/06/2007 10:22:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A syrupy poison, diethylene glycol, is an indispensable part of the modern world, an industrial solvent and prime ingredient in antifreeze. It also is a killer. And the deaths, if not intentional, are often no accident.

The kidneys fail first. Then the central nervous system begins to misfire. Paralysis spreads, making breathing difficult, then often impossible without assistance. In the end, most victims die.


(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; diethyleneglycol; poison
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1 posted on 05/06/2007 8:43:21 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Thanks for posting this. I’ve mentioned the Haiti poisonings before in a couple of China-related threads in the past, but this is by far the most detailed story on the topic I’ve seen.


2 posted on 05/06/2007 8:48:49 AM PDT by DemforBush
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To: COUNTrecount

I read this long article earlier and was just amazed by it. I don’t know if posting all 7 pages of it is allowed, but I hope it is. Everyone on FR needs to read this.

Stop trade with China now!


3 posted on 05/06/2007 8:49:16 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: COUNTrecount

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828993/posts


5 posted on 05/06/2007 8:52:14 AM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: EggsAckley; All

See also..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/world/americas/06poison.html?_r=1&th=&emc=th&pagewanted=all


6 posted on 05/06/2007 8:53:18 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
"Chinese officials we contacted on this matter were all reluctant to become involved,"

No God, no conscience.

7 posted on 05/06/2007 8:55:16 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: COUNTrecount

Everyday LOW - LOW PRICES !!


8 posted on 05/06/2007 8:57:26 AM PDT by traumer
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To: COUNTrecount

Yeah, that’s the one I read earlier.

Really chilling article.

“Tidai” = substitute. What smarmy creeps the Chinese have become.


9 posted on 05/06/2007 8:57:59 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: COUNTrecount
If most of the "free traders" really stop and think about it, or do a little reading on the subject, they will recall that there were damn good reasons for the establishment of agencies like the FDA, and the regulations they impose.
10 posted on 05/06/2007 8:58:21 AM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: COUNTrecount
Let's see if I've got this straight... Melanine in wheat gluten, and diethylene glycol as glycerine... Yup! Let's continue getting base food stuffs from other countries, so that we can save some money!

Mark

11 posted on 05/06/2007 8:59:23 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: mom4kittys

This is very similar to the thread we were on last night. But more info is at the forum for those that had trouble clicking through to the article last night.


12 posted on 05/06/2007 9:04:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; mom4kittys; blam; Salamander; Red Badger; upchuck; WakeUpAndVote; dirtboy; ...

13 posted on 05/06/2007 9:04:11 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: EggsAckley

Have become? I think they’ve been that way from the beginning. We are finally waking up. I’ve tried to avoid buying any Chinese product since we started importing them—it’s not always possible, but if I have a choice, I buy another product. If it isn’t the poisoning, it’s the slave labor. How else can you buy a hand-made quilt for a kingsize bed for $40?


14 posted on 05/06/2007 9:08:35 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MarkL

Astute. And while we buy foodstuffs from these murderous thieves, our own “breakbasket” continues to hold farm sales and sell the land off to real estate developers. Maybe “cheap food” isn’t such a good idea, considering the poisonings, the adulterations, and the losses of livelihood to our own farmers.


15 posted on 05/06/2007 9:12:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MarkL

Same goes with electrical parts. In the US there is a significant amount of detail aid to specification and code compliance. When all materials and fabrications are outsourced, then the importers file bankruptcy every 7-8 years to avoid liabilities, count on everything purchased from China to have external liabilities within 5-8 years.

3 Ceiling fans I purchased at Lowes, with the best energy savings ratings, lowest cost, ‘builder’s specials, have all smoked between 1-2 years of service. Motors are fine, but their switching capacitors have fried in each one after about 1 year of service. Not good for a component which is relied upon for unattended ventilation 24/7. When investigating the cause, I discovered a tag on the component indicating it was made in China and to call a number in LA for service. Upon contacting the trading company, they directed me to the part of the fan which likely failed and simply mailed out a replacement part, however, all the wiring is premolded at the connection points making it impossible to replace without substantially altering the connections. Took it back to Lowes and they replaced with like make and model, but now the second one has smoked. It’s purely subcomponent quality and assembly design flaws which cause these problems.

Basically the large oligopolies controlling the construction industry are cognizant of the fraud and condone this type of business. The American consumer is at risk and with substantial detriment due to this ‘new world order’ which seeks to remove national governance in favor of socialist and global reach.

IMHO, if it’s from China, I’m generally better off without it..


16 posted on 05/06/2007 9:13:00 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: null and void

You touched on this (post 16) in a post last night.


17 posted on 05/06/2007 9:17:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: COUNTrecount
“Most Favored Nation” my ass!

Sorry about the language, nothing else seems to cover it so succinctly.

18 posted on 05/06/2007 9:18:39 AM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: EggsAckley
What smarmy creeps the Chinese have become.

They have always been this way. The difference is that now the rest of the world has more contact with them than ever before.

19 posted on 05/06/2007 9:21:54 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Calpernia

Courtesy of Calpernia:

Take a look at the China Chamber of Commerce:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1639090/posts?page=66#66


20 posted on 05/06/2007 9:22:21 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys

bump


21 posted on 05/06/2007 9:23:33 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MarkL
Let's continue getting base food stuffs from other countries, so that we can save some money!

Not all other countries are the same. These poisons did not come from "other countries". They came from China.

22 posted on 05/06/2007 9:24:01 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: COUNTrecount

Chinese government and industry: corrupt from beginning to end.

However, as this case and the pet food case reveals, even the cautious can become the victim of their profit and bribe driven, unscrupulous practices.

Although it is not always possible, I try to have nothing to do with them.


23 posted on 05/06/2007 9:33:25 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Toxic syrup has figured in at least eight mass poisonings around the world in the past two decades.

Kind of a weird article. Eight = "Mass?"

Researchers estimate that thousands have died.

Which is it? "At least eight" or "Thousands?"

24 posted on 05/06/2007 9:37:09 AM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: rogue yam
Not all other countries are the same. These poisons did not come from "other countries". They came from China.

I realize that, but I also have problems with the US importing things like fresh vegetables from Mexico, and Central and South America, where "health code" standards aren't quite as strict as they are in the US.

Mark

25 posted on 05/06/2007 9:39:57 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: mom4kittys

Can you add me to the ping list ? Thanks :)


26 posted on 05/06/2007 9:40:46 AM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: bluefish

Ok, I retract my comments. Eight is not eight individual people. It is eight groups, totaling thousands of individuals.


27 posted on 05/06/2007 9:41:22 AM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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To: bluefish

It means eight different mass poisonings.


28 posted on 05/06/2007 9:45:00 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: MizSterious; rogue yam

You are both absolutely right. I realized that the moment I hit “post.”

When I was a lounge musician years ago the owner of one place I worked was a middle aged Chinese guy who persisted in putting his hands on me and asking if I wanted to be “his girl.” Yuck. I quit that gig in a hurry. What a sleezebag.


29 posted on 05/06/2007 9:46:25 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: rogue yam

...they have always been that way...

true. Henry Miller, a great writer from the 1930s to 1960s, wrote an essay on how the Chinese are just slavers who will do anything for a nickel.


30 posted on 05/06/2007 9:50:35 AM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit, conformity - such a common deformity)
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To: DemforBush

But the Chinese medicine is 10 cents cheaper! More trade with China! Yeeeeeeeeaaaaarrrgh!


31 posted on 05/06/2007 9:51:06 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Calpernia; hedgetrimmer

Bump for ‘Conscience free trade!’

Wake up America!


32 posted on 05/06/2007 9:52:22 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: bluefish

Thousands have died in eight mass poisonings.


33 posted on 05/06/2007 9:52:56 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: bioqubit

A modern update would be how the “free traders” are just slavers who will do anything for a nickel.


34 posted on 05/06/2007 9:54:52 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: COUNTrecount

LINKS are your friends...


35 posted on 05/06/2007 9:56:01 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: bluefish

“Which is it? ‘At least eight’ or ‘Thousands?’”

How about at least eight mass poisonings, with thousands of deaths combined from the various mass poisonings.


36 posted on 05/06/2007 9:58:01 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: AuntB

This chart might be great for the Towncrier:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1829204/posts?page=20#20


37 posted on 05/06/2007 9:59:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bluefish
Kind of a weird article. Eight = "Mass?"

Eight separate incidents. Multiple victims in each incident.

38 posted on 05/06/2007 10:00:13 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: EEDUDE

There is even more of a role for the FDA today. China’s adulteration of medicine and food is very reminiscent of the “Snake Oil” peddlers and quick-buck artists in the U.S. at the turn of the 20th. century.


39 posted on 05/06/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Captain Rhino
Chinese government and industry: corrupt from beginning to end.

You can start to say the same thing about OUR government. With "free trade" and public/private partnerships, there is no line between our government and the transnational corporations pushing global commerce above safety, national security and citizen sovereignty.

Just ask Senator Feinstein how much of her family fortunes is dependent on China. Ask the Bush brothers how much money they expect to make from mandated ethanol from Brazil.
40 posted on 05/06/2007 10:01:20 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: All

Please let me know if you want added to my ping list. It started off as a pet food recall list, then human food contamination and now has evolved to anything involving free trade with China.


41 posted on 05/06/2007 10:01:23 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: COUNTrecount

Excellent article and a scary one too. Thanks for the post.


42 posted on 05/06/2007 10:04:50 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: DvdMom

Sure


43 posted on 05/06/2007 10:16:17 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Calpernia

Dang! Just about everyone is on that bandwagon.


44 posted on 05/06/2007 10:17:07 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Say thank you to Henry Kissinger.


45 posted on 05/06/2007 10:25:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: COUNTrecount
I read the ingredients on a soda I bought out of a machine. Can't remember the name of it, but it had ethylene glycol in it.

I did a double take, then I remembered what was in anti-freeze.

46 posted on 05/06/2007 10:28:12 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calpernia

The state Dept. has been a mess ever since dear ol’ Henry.


47 posted on 05/06/2007 10:28:20 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: COUNTrecount

Thanks for posting.

I would note than Imas caught the tainted pet food as they do their own QA testing house.

Would taht the folks who make meficine perform the same tests to ensure the purity of product. Now (and as before with some of us) everything from CHina is suspect.

We are label checkers. I just don’t buy stuff from China if we have the choice.


48 posted on 05/06/2007 10:41:02 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: ASOC

yes, but the label won’t necessarily tell you if the ingredients were bought from China.


49 posted on 05/06/2007 10:54:08 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys

Yup - thats where the “if I have a choice” comes in.

We are looking closely at supliments to see if country of origin are noted. IF not, we will continue to email the mfgs about it.

Guess the garden will be alittle bigger this year.


50 posted on 05/06/2007 11:03:36 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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