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Aborigines Came Out Of Africa, Study Shows
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-8-2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 05/07/2007 7:17:22 PM PDT by blam

Aborigines came out of Africa, study shows

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 2:24am BST 08/05/2007

Australia's Aborigines were formed from a single group of migrants who left Africa about 55,000 years ago, DNA evidence suggests.

Once there the settlers evolved in relative isolation, developing genetic characteristics not found anywhere else and leading to unusual fossil finds that threatened the "out of Africa" hypothesis of human origins.

DNA tests show that Aborigines did not develop separately but were part of the migration from Africa 55,000 years ago

However, research published today confirms that all modern humans stem from a single group of Homo sapiens who emigrated from Africa and spread throughout Eurasia.

A report by a team led by Cambridge and Anglia Ruskin Universities published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences says Australia's Aboriginal population sprang from the same tiny group of settlers. This group replaced early kinds of humans -such as Neanderthals and Homo erectus, who had already colonised Australia - rather than interbreeding with them.

To trace ancestry back 50,000 years or more the team analysed the mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome DNA, which is only passed down the male line of Aboriginal Australians and Melanesians from New Guinea.

This data was compared with DNA patterns associated with early humans in an international effort with researchers in Oxford, California, and Estonia.

Dr Peter Forster, a geneticist who led the research, said: "For the first time, this evidence gives us a genetic link showing that the Australian Aboriginal and New Guinean populations are descended directly from the same specific group of people who emerged from the African migration."

At the time of the migration, Australia and New Guinea were joined by a land bridge and the region was only separated from the main Eurasian land mass by narrow straits such as Wallace's Line in Indonesia. The land bridge was submerged about 8,000 years ago.

Dr Toomas Kivisild, from Cambridge, co-author of the report, said: "The evidence points to relative isolation after the initial arrival, which would mean any significant developments in skeletal form and tool use were not influenced by outside sources."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aboriginies; australia; godsgravesglyphs; outofafrica; study
I thought we already knew this...just not exactly when.
1 posted on 05/07/2007 7:17:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

New analysis shows three human migrations out of Africa, Replacement theory 'demolished'

2 posted on 05/07/2007 7:19:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Humans Migrated Out Of Africa, Then Some Went Back, Study Says
3 posted on 05/07/2007 7:22:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The land bridge was submerged about 8,000 years ago.

How did that happen?

4 posted on 05/07/2007 7:25:47 PM PDT by stevem
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To: stevem

Hmmmmmm....


5 posted on 05/07/2007 7:31:05 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: stevem

Seas don’t part forever.


6 posted on 05/07/2007 7:32:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: stevem
How did that happen?

Halliburton.

7 posted on 05/07/2007 7:33:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Jim Noble

It’s Bush’s fault..


8 posted on 05/07/2007 7:40:05 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: stevem
"How did that happen?"

Global warming, the Ice Age ended, the ice melted and the seas rose.

9 posted on 05/07/2007 7:41:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: stevem
How did that happen?



Bush's fault
10 posted on 05/07/2007 7:42:41 PM PDT by BJClinton (WWBJCD?)
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To: blam

Is this series or hugh?
So we are all african - somethings?


11 posted on 05/07/2007 8:11:05 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: blam
Cool!

Lots of neat findings coming from DNA.

And there will be more to come!

12 posted on 05/07/2007 8:25:00 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Geez, they have dark skin, broad noses, and heavy brows. Who’d of thunk it???


13 posted on 05/07/2007 8:36:51 PM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: blam

Like Bob Marley sings, mon, we are “One Blood”.


14 posted on 05/07/2007 8:50:32 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: CalvaryJohn
Geez, they have dark skin, broad noses, and heavy brows. Who’d of thunk it???

Look at the nasion notch!

15 posted on 05/07/2007 8:53:02 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: stevem
The land bridge was submerged about 8,000 years ago. How did that happen?

The last Ice Age ended despite the fact that SUVs and the internal combustion engine were 8000 years in the future. What the hell ask Al Gore, I am sure he can explain it and also ask him why the polar ice caps on Mars are melting. I did not realize that Exxon was hard at work on Mars destroying the planet.

16 posted on 05/07/2007 8:54:16 PM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam. And yet, 55,000 years ago is still earlier than anthropologists will accept. This sounds (especially coming out of England as it does) like book-cookin' to prop up the Replacement model.

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17 posted on 05/07/2007 9:00:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 7, 2007.)
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To: CalvaryJohn
Geez, they have dark skin, broad noses, and heavy brows. Who’d of thunk it???

This may come as a shock but all of our ancestors (this white boys also) that came out of Africa were black. The color of one's skin is an evolutionary function of your local environment as is the nominal body structure and facial and body appearance. There are some people in India that are very black and genetically Caucasians, they are black for the same reason Norwegians are very very very white. Skin color is a function of the local environment.

18 posted on 05/07/2007 9:02:42 PM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: blam

Somehow the out of Africa model doesn’t explain the obvious greater development of Asians over other races. Africans appear to be the most primitive of life forms and the Asians appear to be the most advanced IMHO. Yet humans emigrated from Africa? I think someday another cradle of civilization will be found in China.


19 posted on 05/07/2007 9:06:18 PM PDT by raftguide
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To: blam
At the time of the migration, Australia and New Guinea were joined by a land bridge

Then it flooded thanks to the caveman contribution to globull warming. Cavemen then had to buy carbon credits to cook Mammoths and send smoke signals. The Al Gore cave had a very small carbon footprint and he used only one leaf to wipe.

20 posted on 05/07/2007 9:09:53 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids (We'll stay out of your bedrooms, if you stay out of our children's classrooms.)
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To: raftguide

“Asians appear to be the most advanced IMHO”

China has the record for “Most Stagnant Civilization Ever”.


21 posted on 05/07/2007 9:10:28 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: raftguide
Somehow the out of Africa model doesn’t explain the obvious greater development of Asians over other races. Africans appear to be the most primitive of life forms and the Asians appear to be the most advanced IMHO. Yet humans emigrated from Africa? I think someday another cradle of civilization will be found in China.

You are mixing up several different concepts.

Try viewing this link: Journey of Mankind.

I think this might help. Pay particular attention to the timeline.

22 posted on 05/07/2007 9:16:24 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam

Damn, I thought his great-grandmother was Dutch. Oh well, whaddya know.


23 posted on 05/07/2007 9:39:21 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: raftguide
"I think someday another cradle of civilization will be found in China."

Maybe.

Presently I subscribe to this theory:

Multiregional Hypothesis

24 posted on 05/07/2007 9:47:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: cpdiii

Yep, and scientists have even found a warming climate on Triton, which is one of Neptune’s moons. Somebody should wake Al Gore and warn him.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980526052143data_trunc_sys.shtml


25 posted on 05/07/2007 10:03:39 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: blam

This was covered in I think a Nova where they showed that the most ancient markers on the Y chromosome occurred in the Klickitat(sp?) people of Africa and the Australian aborigines.

They also covered some interesting findings of very, very ancient fire pits in Australia.

You know, like twenty pound giant birds wings and stuff from some of the megafauna that was there.

Hey, kid, throw a lasso around one of them giant bird legs and drag it over here! Woman, get me a beer!


26 posted on 05/07/2007 10:24:19 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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To: blam

“such as Neanderthals and Homo erectus, who had already colonised Australia”

how are these earlier humans believed to have reached australia?


27 posted on 05/08/2007 12:51:33 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: cpdiii
"last ice age"

I recently saw some show on the Discovery channel about the melting of the last ice age. Some scientist had concocted a theory that great amounts of CO2 had melted the immense ice sheets. Of course they were trying to imply what would happen now because of increased CO2.

What was neglected curiously enough was how the two mile high ice sheets were created in the first place. My college courses had taught us the Milankovich theory of "tilt, wobble, and stretch" whereby the sun was responsible for the heating and cooling of the earth depending on our variations in our orbit. Apparently to these scientists the sun has had a neglible affect on our climate. I suppose cavemen getting rid of their SUVs and lowering the CO2 created the ice ages. (smirk)

28 posted on 05/08/2007 3:32:59 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: cpdiii
"ancestors"

I would assume that many people are uncomfortable with the out of Africa theory although to me that is the most plausible one. Of course many want to believe in the theory of God putting humans on different continents. One time I pointed out the difference in skin color tones as you went north from mid-Africa to Scandinavia to a very light-skinned friend and that his ancient ancestors were all probably much darker than he was. He was less than enthusiastic about that idea. My own belief is that if you go back far enough, no matter how pale some of us look, our ancient ancestors were all very dark-skinned. Adaptation is the history of the human race.

29 posted on 05/08/2007 3:40:01 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: blam

It reminds me of a similar description in a publication from the latter half of the 1800’s from, I believe, Thomas Henry Huxley (at least that was the last book I was looking at). In that book, modern blacks descended from gorillas, asians from orangutans, and whites from chimpanzees. I was at a school that had recently been given the entire library of another school that had been around for a long, long time. It contained first or early editions of theological and evolutionary texts from the 19th century and earlier. I remember at the time thinking how absolutely cool it was that I was able to hold these original volumes in my hand and see what folks from that era actually said instead of seeing them merely quoted by others much later.


30 posted on 05/08/2007 4:36:32 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: stevem

Water


31 posted on 05/08/2007 9:38:11 AM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv
Here http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/7/47 is a related article “Y-chromosome evidence suggests a common paternal heritage of Austro-Asiatic populations.”

The Austro-Asiatic linguistic family, which is considered to be the oldest of all the families in India, has a substantial presence in Southeast Asia. However, the possibility of any genetic link among the linguistic sub-families of the Indian Austro-Asiatics on the one hand and between the Indian and the Southeast Asian Austro-Asiatics on the other has not been explored till now. Therefore, to trace the origin and historic expansion of Austro-Asiatic groups of India, we analysed Y-chromosome SNP and STR data of the 1222 individuals from 25 Indian populations, covering all the three branches of Austro-Asiatic tribes, viz. Mundari, Khasi-Khmuic and Mon-Khmer, along with the previously published data on 214 relevant populations from Asia and Oceania.



Map showing present-day distribution of Austro-Asiatic groups and the schematic representation of the routes of migration of the different Austro-Asiatic linguistic subgroups of India.

32 posted on 05/08/2007 10:34:48 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
Thanks, interesting.

The Orang Asli of Malaysia have the oldest DNA on earth.

Also, the Maori's of NZ have an interesting DNA combination. The female line is from Melanisians while the male appears to be from the Lapita. Different races. Some believe the Lapita are descended from the Jomon/Ainu (A Caucasian like group).

33 posted on 05/08/2007 10:48:44 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Thanks, it seems that the warriors leave their females at home when they are out exploring the deep universe.


34 posted on 05/08/2007 11:16:28 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: blam
A report by a team led by Cambridge and Anglia Ruskin Universities published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences says Australia's Aboriginal population sprang from the same tiny group of settlers. This group replaced early kinds of humans -such as Neanderthals and Homo erectus, who had already colonised Australia - rather than interbreeding with them.

There were Neanderthals in Australia???

35 posted on 05/08/2007 11:36:33 AM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Republican Party Reptile
"There were Neanderthals in Australia???"

Still are, only now we call them rugby players.

36 posted on 05/08/2007 11:40:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Republican Party Reptile; AdmSmith; Joe 6-pack

Violence Is Blamed On 'Warrior Gene' In The Maoris

37 posted on 05/08/2007 2:27:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: stevem

Atlantis sunk.


38 posted on 05/08/2007 5:11:00 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Coyoteman

Excellent. Thank you very much. I understand that the tracings of DNA made this depiction of man’s journey possible?


39 posted on 05/08/2007 5:17:16 PM PDT by raftguide
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To: raftguide
I understand that the tracings of DNA made this depiction of man’s journey possible?

The Journey of Mankind is based almost entirely on DNA studies.

Although its only a couple of years old, some of the findings presented in the Journey of Mankind are already in need of updating.

The field is still young, changing very quickly, and there will be many more major discoveries to come.

40 posted on 05/08/2007 6:01:55 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: cpdiii

While it is probable that humans are not the only reason the earth is warming up right now, it is probably in our best interest not to make the current warming trend any worse, or happen any faster. It’s unfortunate that somehow conservatives have decided that environmentalism is a radical leftist cause we should resist at all costs. It SHOULD be a conservative cause because the financial and social repercussions of doing nothing are going to be horrendous. You think there’s an immigration problem now? Just wait until the whole of Mexico desertifies and/or submerges.


41 posted on 05/08/2007 8:08:24 PM PDT by 49th (this space for rent)
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To: Republican Party Reptile
There were Neanderthals in Australia??? Thats news to me also. I thought Neanderthal sites were European and Middle Eastern.
42 posted on 05/09/2007 3:34:01 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: stevem

How did that happen?...Damn global warming.


43 posted on 05/09/2007 3:39:38 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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