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To: Lusis
It is illegal to pay for sex because our very existence as a nation relies on the Judeo-Christian values that formed us. Using the letter of the Constitution to legalize destructive, immoral activities is suicide and worthy of the Clintons, Reids and Pelosis of this world. The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution, but the Libertarians don’t care about that truth or the outcome of such an action, preferring the purity of their philosophy over the death and destruction it surely brings.
8 posted on 05/09/2007 6:58:39 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Compromise on your vote and you get a compromised government.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
It is illegal to pay for sex because our very existence as a nation relies on the Judeo-Christian values that formed us. Using the letter of the Constitution to legalize destructive, immoral activities is suicide and worthy of the Clintons, Reids and Pelosis of this world. The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution, but the Libertarians don’t care about that truth or the outcome of such an action, preferring the purity of their philosophy over the death and destruction it surely brings.

BRAVO. You could not have stated it more clearly and concisely. My hat is off to you Doc.
13 posted on 05/09/2007 7:02:11 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Dr. Thorne

Well said, sir!


17 posted on 05/09/2007 7:05:23 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution

Would they allow legalized abortion?

19 posted on 05/09/2007 7:06:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Adultery is destructive yet it has been decriminalized (even though there is a violation of a legal agreement).

Fornication laws also were repealed against unmarried sex and cohabitation.

Now the Supreme Court has skipped the legislative process and decreed that homosexuality is a protected right in America.

We were told that it was about the actions of consenting adults in private yet school children are being instructed in the homosexual lifestyle and the GBLT people are urging for a change to our nation’s vice laws that see homosexuals prosecuted for public sex in washrooms. There is also a push for same sex marriage.

So much for it being about ADULTS in PRIVATE.

The act of sex with a prostitute is conducted in private yet it is considered in another strata. I’ve already pointed out the unregulated activity of babysitters.

If prostitution is regulated by the government, then again you have Big Brother in the bedroom. Right now Big Brother is busy in the bathroom checking out the size toilet bowl Americans have and may soon be inspecting the bulbs in the lighting fixtures and the number of sheets of toilet paper you are using.

I may not argue against the way the laws were but in the modern era, it is an unequal application of the Constitution. Rick Santorum spoke about the slippery slope. Some of it has come to pass. Other elements have not yet. All of it was ridiculed.


23 posted on 05/09/2007 7:09:25 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Prostitution was pretty much legal in this country, defacto if not actual, until women got the right to vote.
24 posted on 05/09/2007 7:10:14 AM PDT by Comus (There is no honor in dying with your sword sheathed)
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But banging the secretary at work and making excuses to the wife is no crime at all.

I have yet to hear a legal / moral rebuttal to that.


28 posted on 05/09/2007 7:12:01 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Perhaps you would care to explain to the viewing audience, the existence of legal brothels in the State of Nevada.

Many great arguments against legal prostitution, but a not a valid argument from “intent of the framers”.


29 posted on 05/09/2007 7:12:17 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [protest for... violence and peace])
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“The men who wrote that Constitution .....’

codified slavery, but found this ‘abhorrent’.

Just thought I’d point that out. Which is the worse ‘evil’ a woman taking capitalism to the proverbial ‘street level’ or enslaving humans for material gain?

citing the founders, and the Constitution, on this topic has its flaws, thats all I’m noting here, btw.


33 posted on 05/09/2007 7:13:33 AM PDT by Badeye (Some issues are more complicated than others.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution...

Not too sure about how that Franklin fellow would have regarded it, personally.

For the most part, they were relatively silent on the topic. The real push for making prostitution illegal came towards the end of the 19th century from the remnants of the Abolitionist movement. The main focus was protecting women from being forced into prostitution and not to support some Puritanical moral code as some might suggest (although I'm sure the remaining Puritans were quite happy to sign on as well).

34 posted on 05/09/2007 7:14:23 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution,

Actually they did. But why let little things like facts get in the way of a good rant.

L

39 posted on 05/09/2007 7:16:48 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
It is illegal to pay for sex because our very existence as a nation relies on the Judeo-Christian values that formed us.

Judeo-Christian values "priestcraft". Though for good reason. To prevent the spread of STD's and since back in the day they had no birth control, well you know.

46 posted on 05/09/2007 7:25:04 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution, but the Libertarians don’t care about that truth or the outcome of such an action, preferring the purity of their philosophy over the death and destruction it surely brings.

Typical wide stroke of the brush. Libertarians are no more in favor of legalizing prostitution than Christian conservatives are.

66 posted on 05/09/2007 7:51:09 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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t is illegal to pay for sex because our very existence as a nation relies on the Judeo-Christian values that formed us. Using the letter of the Constitution to legalize destructive, immoral activities is suicide and worthy of the Clintons, Reids and Pelosis of this world. The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution,

Care to comment on the state of Nevada?

68 posted on 05/09/2007 7:53:50 AM PDT by retMD
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To: Dr. Thorne
It is illegal to pay for sex because our very existence as a nation relies on the Judeo-Christian values that formed us. Using the letter of the Constitution to legalize destructive, immoral activities is suicide and worthy of the Clintons, Reids and Pelosis of this world. The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution, but the Libertarians don’t care about that truth or the outcome of such an action, preferring the purity of their philosophy over the death and destruction it surely brings.

Compared to the sleaze going on between politicians, lobbyists, fundraisers, staffers, professional bureaucrats, etc., in Washington, DC., regular ol' garden-variety prostitution is as pure as the driven snow.

72 posted on 05/09/2007 7:57:39 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Prostitution was legal under the government formed by the founding Fathers and only became illegal when Women got the right to vote.


96 posted on 05/09/2007 8:19:32 AM PDT by sentis1
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To: Dr. Thorne
It is illegal to pay for sex because our very existence as a nation relies on the Judeo-Christian values that formed us. Using the letter of the Constitution to legalize destructive, immoral activities is suicide and worthy of the Clintons, Reids and Pelosis of this world. The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution, but the Libertarians don’t care about that truth or the outcome of such an action, preferring the purity of their philosophy over the death and destruction it surely brings.

Actually, I have no doubt that the founders wouldn't have seen any problem with the States or localities outlawing prostitution. Constitutionally, I can see them simply saying that it's NOT something that the Constitution would have allowed the federal government to outlaw.

Mark

136 posted on 05/09/2007 9:14:54 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution,

Actually, it was quite legal across the nation until after the civil war.

but the Libertarians don’t care about that truth

I bet the irony of this statement is lost on you.
154 posted on 05/09/2007 9:44:55 AM PDT by BJClinton (WWBJCD?)
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To: Dr. Thorne; mkjessup; ClearCase_guy; srweaver; traviskicks; Extremely Extreme Extremist

When they came for the drinkers during Prohibition, I did not speak out, as I was not a drinker.

When they came for the employees of the oldest profession in the world, I did not speak out, as I had no interest in purchasing sex.

When they came for the purveyors of what was deemed to be "obscene" or "offensive", I did not speak out, as I was not a fan of entertainers like Lenny Bruce or Howard Stern.

When they came to ban the female mammary gland from TV, I did not speak out, because Brian Boitano told me not to.

When they came for the marijuana smokers, I did not speak out, as I was not a marijuana smoker.

When they came for the steroid users, I did not speak out, as I was not a steroid user.

When they came for the _______ (insert nominally objectionable behavior here), I did not speak out as I was not a _________ (fill in the blank).

When they came for the pornographers, I did not speak out, as I was not a pornographer.

When they came for the people who don't wear seatbelts, I did not speak out, as I always wore my seatbelt.

When they came for the gun owners, I did not speak out, as I was not a gun owner.

When they came for the gamblers, I did not speak out, as I was not a gambler.

When they came for the cigarette smokers, I did not speak out, as I was not a smoker.

When they came for the overweight and the obese, I did not speak out, as I was not overweight or obese.

When they came for the drinkers (again), I did not speak out, as I was not a drinker.

Then they came for me...and there was nobody left to speak out.

206 posted on 05/09/2007 7:15:23 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution.

You may notice that the Constitution does not address prostitution. It was not made illegal; ergo: prostitution was legal. It was later addressed by the States.

I never paid for sex in my life, until my divorce. As the unabashed dictionary defines it - Divorce: The screwing you get for the screwing you got. If that isn't prostitution, tell me what is?

All that time I thought we were lovemaking.

228 posted on 05/09/2007 11:50:23 PM PDT by Loud Mime ("It is not intellect which makes a great scientist; it is character." Einstein)
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The men who wrote that Constitution would never allow legalized prostitution,

Your eloquence doesn’t do much to flatter your ignorance. I see a pig with diamond earrings when I read your post.

In the time of our founders prostitutes were routinely encouraged to follow the armies on the march to provide thier services in the camps. This occurred up to the civil war and also occurred in much of the manifest destiny inspired push to occupy the American western frontier. They knew that this was something better left up to local goverments to decide through the officials elected by the stake holders of the particular area.
Of course you wouldn’t know that just as you wouldn’t know that libertarian ideals are much more closely aligned with the political hopes of our founders than the socialism we see rampant in the GOP. You’re a puppet and those who want to control you are using your morality as the strings. You should be ashamed that your virtue has been allowed to become a whip and a chain. You should only be wearing chains for the sake of Christ, not Uncle Sam!


232 posted on 05/10/2007 5:29:52 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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