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Ron Paul to uphold any Bush veto of HR 1592
US Congress statement ^ | 05.07.2007 | Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

Posted on 05/09/2007 7:18:18 AM PDT by malibu2008

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To: TUAN_JIM
How exactly were the Iraqis going to kill us all?

Perhaps you meant to refer to Saddam and his cohorts? The majority of Iraqis weren't the enemy and they aren't today either. I wish I had the time to educate you regarding the WOT, Al Queda, Saddam's defiance of the UN Resolutions, etc., but I don't. If you're still this clueless after all these years something tells me that you probably never cared to learn truth and facts in the first place. Have a nice day.

41 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:26 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Chena
Perhaps you meant to refer to Saddam and his cohorts? The majority of Iraqis weren't the enemy and they aren't today either. I wish I had the time to educate you regarding the WOT, Al Queda, Saddam's defiance of the UN Resolutions, etc., but I don't. If you're still this clueless after all these years something tells me that you probably never cared to learn truth and facts in the first place. Have a nice day.

Way to not answer the question. I'll ask again. How exactly were "Saddam and his cohorts" going to kill us all? By the way, I did two tours in Iraq with the Marine Corps. How many did you do? My guess is zero. Are you one of those people who thinks that Bush is doing a great job? Do you honestly believe that he would have gone into Iraq if he could have foreseen how it would work out? We went into Iraq with far too few troops, and a lousy post-invasion plan. Now my friends and I have to pay the price.

PS You can't even spell Al-Qaeda. I don't think I need you to "educate" me.

42 posted on 05/09/2007 1:02:56 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TUAN_JIM

You might sell that at DU or Kos land, I am not buying that.


43 posted on 05/09/2007 1:05:51 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney
You might sell that at DU or Kos land, I am not buying that.

Buying what?

44 posted on 05/09/2007 1:07:13 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: jrooney
You might sell that at DU or Kos land, I am not buying that.

All I asked was "how exactly were the Iraqis going to kill us all?" By what means?

45 posted on 05/09/2007 1:10:01 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: jrooney

What was untrue about my statement?


46 posted on 05/09/2007 1:13:14 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: jrooney
Ron Paul, the republican that if had his way, Saddam would still be in power to rape and murder the innocent?

Saddam was keeping down the mullahs and islamofascists who, now in power around the country, have created chaos, established sharia law, and driven 2 million people out of the country - including most Christians.

Saddam was a brutal dictator - but a lot of his brutality was against Islamic nutcases. He was a secularist. That's why Osama hated him.

47 posted on 05/09/2007 1:17:13 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: Chena
I'd like for us to be alive to enjoy those liberties. :)

Me too. The only problem with your logic is that Saddam and his 5th rate army didn't pose any danger to your liberties or mine. No more than, say, Mugabe, another dictator, threatens you or me.

48 posted on 05/09/2007 1:19:31 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: jmc813; Wallace T.
Ron Paul is a decent man, but one who is terribly deluded in the area of foreign policy.

Actually, the people who have been shown to be deluded - or at least misinformed - are the officials who said we had to invade Iraq because they had wmd's. Bush and Cheney now admit there were no wmd's. I have a hard time calling Ron Paul "deluded" when he opposed an invasion that has only served to massively destabilize Iraq, create 2 million refugees (including most of the country's Christians), empower Iran, free Iraqi islamo-nutcases to set up sharia law in the countryside, establish an explicitly Muslim constitution, and cost the US taxpayers $2 billion a week.

Ron Paul, you were right.

49 posted on 05/09/2007 1:22:32 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: CJ Wolf
Declaration of war is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war if you don’t have to?

That's about idiotic. Declaring War also brings sedition laws into effect. It also allows for total war.

50 posted on 05/09/2007 1:23:04 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: malibu2008

But...but...Ron Paul is a Libertarian kook, he always votes no...this can’t be < /Paul haters >


51 posted on 05/09/2007 1:23:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Centurion2000
There are things no longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war

This sounds like a liberal who says the Constitution as written is no longer relevant.

52 posted on 05/09/2007 1:24:08 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: jrooney
Ron Paul, the republican that if had his way, Saddam would still be in power to rape and murder the innocent?

Nice thread hijack, Bushbot. Nevermind the fact that Paul has praised Bush for vetoing this.

Effing hypocrite...

53 posted on 05/09/2007 1:25:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: TUAN_JIM; freedomdefender
I find it no coincidence Saddam was looking for volunteers from his AIR FORCE to attack western targets 6 months before 9/11. This particular captured Iraqi document was translated here on FR by jveritas and verified through two translators by captainsquarters.

Also, Tenet just admitted on 60 minutes the other night that the CIA knew Al Qaeda was in Iraq prior to our invasion and had contacts with Saddam, yet the CIA could not confirm an operational relationship. So the CIA knew Al Qaeda was in Iraq but did not know what they were doing.

Tenet is no fan of the Iraq war and Cheney, so he would not make that up. The 60 min segment was meant to be more of a hit piece against GW and Cheney than help them.
54 posted on 05/09/2007 1:26:56 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: Chena
It's unfortunate that Ron Paul doesn't "get it" when it comes to Iraq and the WOT.

He voted IN FAVOR of Afghanistan, but he wanted a formal declaration declared for Iraq, CORRECTLY predicting that it was going to turn into an exercise of nation-building.

How ironic that the elected official who adheres to the Constitution the most is criticized here.

55 posted on 05/09/2007 1:27:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I expect no less from a Ron Paul hack like yourself.


56 posted on 05/09/2007 1:28:45 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: LexBaird
He does not support enough of the Republican platform for me to consider him one. RINO of a different stripe.

Ron Paul is 100% pro-life and 100% pro-border security. He has been called the biggest tax-cutter of all time.

How in the Hell is he a RINO?

57 posted on 05/09/2007 1:28:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: jrooney
the CIA knew Al Qaeda was in Iraq but did not know what they were doing.

They were in the north, as I have heard, beyond Saddam's area of control.

In any case, Osama is in Pakistan. Does that mean we should invade Pakistan? If you're not calling for an invasion of Pakistan, are you an "appeaser" - the way opponents of the Iraq invasion were called?

58 posted on 05/09/2007 1:29:00 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; LexBaird
He does not support enough of the Republican platform for me to consider him one.

What part of the GOP plaform does Paul oppose? I don't think that the GOP platform calls for massive foreign aid - I know that's one thing he opposes.

59 posted on 05/09/2007 1:30:09 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: jrooney
I expect no less from a Ron Paul hack like yourself.

Yeah whatever. Perhaps if Bush followed some of Paul's examples, his historical legacy will be right up there with Reagan's instead of LBJ's.

60 posted on 05/09/2007 1:30:46 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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