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Ron Paul to uphold any Bush veto of HR 1592
US Congress statement ^ | 05.07.2007 | Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

Posted on 05/09/2007 7:18:18 AM PDT by malibu2008

"Fortunately, President Bush has pledged to veto HR 1592. Of course, I would vote to uphold the president’s veto." - Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

May 7, 2007

Last week, the House of Representatives acted with disdain for the Constitution and individual liberty by passing HR 1592, a bill creating new federal programs to combat so-called “hate crimes.” The legislation defines a hate crime as an act of violence committed against an individual because of the victim’s race, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability. Federal hate crime laws violate the Tenth Amendment’s limitations on federal power. Hate crime laws may also violate the First Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech and religion by criminalizing speech federal bureaucrats define as “hateful.”

There is no evidence that local governments are failing to apprehend and prosecute criminals motivated by prejudice, in comparison to the apprehension and conviction rates of other crimes. Therefore, new hate crime laws will not significantly reduce crime. Instead of increasing the effectiveness of law enforcement, hate crime laws undermine equal justice under the law by requiring law enforcement and judicial system officers to give priority to investigating and prosecuting hate crimes. Of course, all decent people should condemn criminal acts motivated by prejudice. But why should an assault victim be treated by the legal system as a second-class citizen because his assailant was motivated by greed instead of hate?

HR 1592, like all hate crime laws, imposes a longer sentence on a criminal motivated by hate than on someone who commits the same crime with a different motivation. Increasing sentences because of motivation goes beyond criminalizing acts; it makes it a crime to think certain thoughts. Criminalizing even the vilest hateful thoughts--as opposed to willful criminal acts--is inconsistent with a free society.

HR 1592 could lead to federal censorship of religious or political speech on the grounds that the speech incites hate. Hate crime laws have been used to silence free speech and even the free exercise of religion. For example, a Pennsylvania hate crime law has been used to prosecute peaceful religious demonstrators on the grounds that their public Bible readings could incite violence. One of HR 1592’s supporters admitted that this legislation could allow the government to silence a preacher if one of the preacher’s parishioners commits a hate crime. More evidence that hate crime laws lead to censorship came recently when one member of Congress suggested that the Federal Communications Commission ban hate speech from the airwaves.

Hate crime laws not only violate the First Amendment, they also violate the Tenth Amendment. Under the United States Constitution, there are only three federal crimes: piracy, treason, and counterfeiting. All other criminal matters are left to the individual states. Any federal legislation dealing with criminal matters not related to these three issues usurps state authority over criminal law and takes a step toward turning the states into mere administrative units of the federal government.

Because federal hate crime laws criminalize thoughts, they are incompatible with a free society. Fortunately, President Bush has pledged to veto HR 1592. Of course, I would vote to uphold the president’s veto.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: georgebush; hr1592; ronpaul; veto
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1 posted on 05/09/2007 7:18:23 AM PDT by malibu2008
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To: malibu2008

Ron Paul gets it.


2 posted on 05/09/2007 7:20:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: malibu2008

So if I call somebody stupid, who in fact has done poorly in school, does that constitute as a hate crime?

If so, get the handcuffs ready because I have an explosive mouth.


3 posted on 05/09/2007 7:20:58 AM PDT by wastedyears (To a liberal, "feeling safe" is far more important than "being safe" Credit to TruthShallSetYouFree)
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To: malibu2008

4 posted on 05/09/2007 7:21:47 AM PDT by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: Vaquero

Hahaaha, what a great comic.


5 posted on 05/09/2007 7:22:51 AM PDT by wastedyears (To a liberal, "feeling safe" is far more important than "being safe" Credit to TruthShallSetYouFree)
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To: malibu2008

Wake up America — this atrocity of a bill is typical of the way the radical left wants to CONTROL YOUR LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS — by making everything that they do not want said about their criminal and corrupt ways a crime.

Wake up now!!! Thank God that Bush will veto this freedom-destroying crap of a bill. Your socialist left at work.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 7:23:47 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

why can’t he declare an executive order deporting all Democrats ? Use the sedition act as fuel for the fire .


7 posted on 05/09/2007 7:34:15 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: EagleUSA
Wake up America — this atrocity of a bill is typical of the way the radical left wants to CONTROL YOUR LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS — by making everything that they do not want said about their criminal and corrupt ways a crime.

The Soviets, whose American adherents have thoroughly infiltrated the Democrat party, understood that all you need do to control good men is to make so many laws that it's impossible to avoid breaking any of them. Then you brand him guilty and and he's much easier to manipulate.

8 posted on 05/09/2007 7:34:18 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: malibu2008

I have asked several proponents of such “hate crimes” legislation the same questions - and have NEVER received and answer - not even a stupid answer:

1. If someone murders me because I am in the way of a robbery, and someone else is murdered and the murderer has expressed hatred for a race - does that make the one murdered by the racist any more dead than me?

2. Someone gets in a fight with a homosexual after having sendt an email against gay marriage - does that make them more guilty than someone in a fight with a straight person?

3. Why stop at protecting gays? how about enhanced penalties for those who victimized old people? How about those pro-abortion folks who assaulted the peaceful anti-abortion protesters outside of an abortion clinic? How about teachers who are assaulted because a “student” really hates his teachers? How about the school shooter who takes a gun to school and murders his classmates because of his “HATE”? How about the gang member who shoots up a house because a member of a rival gang (who he of course, hates) lives there?

4. So - doesn’t all crime involve some form of hate? If we loved one another - then we would not commit crimes against each other...

The truth is - hate crimes legislation is 100% a tool to silence views that are contrary to the liberal worldview.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 7:39:16 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman

The truth is - hate crimes legislation is 100% a tool to silence views that are contrary to the liberal worldview.

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Exactly. And totally unconstitutional. Another reason that the socialists must be taken out of the majority in the Congress, and be kept out of the White House.


10 posted on 05/09/2007 7:47:08 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
Exactly. And totally unconstitutional. Another reason that the socialists must be taken out of the majority in the Congress, and be kept out of the White House.

Unfortunately, a couple of the so-called "leading" candidates for the GOP nomination fully support such legislation - and are essentially socialists of the same mold as the one's currently pushing this junk on us.

11 posted on 05/09/2007 7:52:31 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: malibu2008

Ron Paul for POTUS!


12 posted on 05/09/2007 7:58:22 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; traviskicks

ping


13 posted on 05/09/2007 8:03:42 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Still Thinking
Ron Paul, the republican that if had his way, Saddam would still be in power to rape and murder the innocent? That Ron Paul? The one that voted against the Iraq war resolution? The one that voted no against it and not present? The Ron Paul that would retreat from Iraq and give them a victory, the same Al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11 killing 3000 of our citizens? Ron Paul, the republican that voted with a few democrats to not support Israel in its war with Hezzbollah? That Ron Paul?

No thanks. He is not fit to be a dog catcher IMO. My apologies to dog catchers.
14 posted on 05/09/2007 8:10:13 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: bamahead

All violent crimes are hate crimes. Glad to see some common sense still left with at least a few individuals in Congress.


15 posted on 05/09/2007 8:19:27 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: jrooney

Well, he’s on the pro-employed-citizen (read anti-government) side of just about every issue. I realize Libertarians aren’t good for everything, but the current crap of Democrats and “republic”ans are all too authoritarian to fulfill the vision of the Founders. How many times has the Bush administration filed amicus briefs upholding the position of an out-of-control government over that of a private citizen? I’m not talking about terrorists here, think Elliot.


16 posted on 05/09/2007 8:30:25 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: jrooney

No, that’s not this Ron Paul. You must be thinking of some other Ron Paul. One that is a figment of your imagination.


17 posted on 05/09/2007 8:33:24 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: wastedyears; Vaquero

On the “rough days” I pick up the Calvin and Hobbes. It never fails to lift my spirits.


18 posted on 05/09/2007 8:35:35 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("It is not intellect which makes a great scientistl; it is chararacter." Einstein)
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To: Iwo Jima

Sorry there Iwo, it is that Ron Paul. He did everything I posted. I was mocking him because he is a pathetic joke.


19 posted on 05/09/2007 8:42:50 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney

Ron Paul who voted against the Iraq Resolution but instead offered a Declaration of War against Iraq to get rid of the dependence of the UN justification for the military action to keep our sovereignty intact and to keep the constitutional power of Congress to declare war in Congress instead of transferring the power to the POTUS. Yep that Ron Paul.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 8:43:11 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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