Posted on 05/11/2007 4:43:21 AM PDT by AmericaOne
Roy Beck of NumbersUSA sent out an e-mail titled "Are Christians for open borders?" on Tuesday, May 8, 2007. In this e-mail, Mr. Beck points out that far too many Christian leaders are now pushing amnesty for illegal aliens and putting illegal aliens ahead of Americans. To see Mr. Beck's e-mail, just scroll down to response #1 of this thread.
First, I ask that you do what Mr. Beck asked and contact your Senators and tell them you are a Christian and that you oppose amnesty (to see some talking points you can use, please check out Mr. Beck's e-mail).
Second, it is time that we Christians who oppose illegal alien amnesty or guest worker programs take the fight to these so-called "Christian" religious leaders who back amnesty for illegal aliens and open borders. These leaders may call it "comprehensive immigration reform", but we all know it really means amnesty for illegal aliens!!!
We can start fighting back by withholding our donations/offerings to those Christian church organizations that support illegal alien amnesty (comprehensive immigration reform), guest worker programs for illegal aliens and/or open borders! Also, while you are withholding your donations/offerings, contact these Christian church organizations and let them know that you are withholding your donations/offerings to them due to their support of illegal alien amnesty (comprehensive immigration reform), guest worker programs for illegal aliens and/or open borders!
In this world, money talks more than words and this is no different for Christian organizations/churches.
Besides, it makes no sense to donate some of your hard earned money to organizations that are willing to stab you, your families and your country in the back.
Below are links to some of the major Christian church organizations/denominations that Mr. Beck pointed out in his e-mail. I urge you to contact them (especially if you belong to one of them) and tell them that you will no longer donate to their organizations due to their support of illegal aliens amnesty, guest worker programs for illegal aliens and/or open borders. Tell them if they ever want to see your money again, they had better do a complete public reversal of their positions and publicly state they no longer support illegal alien amnesty, any guest worker programs and open borders.
(To find the contact information for the Christian church organizations listed below, look for the Contact Us or Contact link on the webpage.)
http://www.sbc.net/ - Southern Baptist Convention
http://www.catholic.org/ - Catholic Church
http://www.umc.org/ - United Methodist Church
http://www.elca.org/ - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
http://www.pcusa.org/ - Presbyterian Church U.S.A.
http://www.abc-usa.org/ - American Baptist Churches U.S.A.
If your churchs denomination/organization is not listed above, just go to Google or another search engine and type their name in the search box.
http://www.google.com - Google
The same goes for any evangelical Christian television or radio ministry that you watch or listen to. If they state or you otherwise find out that they are for illegal alien amnesty (comprehensive immigration reform), guest worker programs for illegal aliens and/or open borders, then contact them as well and tell them you will no longer donate to their ministries due to their support of illegal alien amnesty, etc.
To find the contact information for any evangelical Christian television or radio ministry, just go to Google or another search engine and type their name in the search box.
These Christian religious leaders claim the Christian thing to do is to support granting amnesty to illegal aliens and keep our borders open and also repeat the tired old rhetoric that "these illegal aliens are only doing the jobs that Americans will not do"!
Yet nowhere in the Bible does it say that we must give amnesty to illegal aliens and that it is okay to disobey laws that we dont like in the nation we are living in or entering. Click here for How does God view illegal immigration?, a good article that spells out the fact that nowhere in the Bible does it say we must give amnesty to illegal aliens (For the record, I do disagree with the authors suggestions for dealing with the illegal aliens already here in the last paragraph).
The Bible does mention that we as Christians should obey the laws of the land we are living in, for Jesus sake, something the illegal aliens and these Christians leaders conveniently ignore or dont seem to grasp. Below is a search result from Google that lists several sites that amplify the point that nowhere in the Bible does it say we must, as Christians, give amnesty to illegal aliens.
Keywords: Bible + illegal immigration
How Christian is it of these "Christian" leaders to willingly put the welfare of illegal aliens over the welfare of their own flocks (Working and Middle Class American Christians)?
Also, How Christian is it of them to willingly put their flock (Working and Middle Class American Christians) in several types of danger?
These "leaders" are putting Working and Middle Class American Christians in danger of losing their jobs and putting their flock's families in a financial bind or outright poverty; of having their wages and standard of living significantly lowered; of creating increasingly large and unfair tax burdens that their flocks and their families are forced to pay for illegal alien healthcare and education; of destabilizing their flocks country and states; of their of exposing their flocks to crime and disease that they wouldn't be exposed to if our immigration laws had been forced, etc.
Before you send any money to any Christian church organization/denomination or evangelical Christian television/radio ministry, contact them and ask them if they support illegal alien amnesty (comprehensive immigration reform), guest worker programs for illegal aliens and/or open borders. If they say yes, then tell them you will not be sending them any money.
If your own local church is backing illegal alien amnesty and open borders in any way, then you should at the very least lower the amount of money you donate. Then tell your pastor/priest/minister that unless they withdraw their support for illegal alien amnesty and open borders, then your donations will cease and you will look for another church.
If you feel that withholding donations/offerings to pro-illegal alien Christian organizations is a good idea, then please forward this to other Christians you know who are opposed to illegal alien amnesty and open borders!!! Please feel free to change any of the wording or terminology used.
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DEAR FRIENDS, I am sending this to all of you who have checked on your NumbersUSA Interest Survey that you are connected to a Christian denomination. I really need your phone calls to your Senators today. They need to hear an overwhelming voice of Christian constituents who believe it is moral for nations to have immigration laws. The story below is like many that are running around the country suggesting that faithful Christians are compelled to support an amnesty for illegal aliens and a big increase in future foreign workers and their dependents. These leaders in the new Christians for Comprehensive Immigration Reform are running expensive ad campaigns, telling Members of Congress that Christian teachings require the opposite of what you believe about the rule of law and protecting the most vulnerable members of our national community from disorder and injustice. PLEASE CALL YOUR TWO SENATORS, identify yourself as a Christian (or with your denomination) and give a quick reason why you believe the moral path is to oppose any "comprehensive" immigration bill that includes allowing illegal aliens to remain in this country or increase overall immigration. 202-224-3121 I implore you to pick up the phone and make this phone call. Without your phone call, the overwhelming Christian witness in Washington DC Wednesday and the rest of the week will be that Christian spirituality requires amnesty. At some point, most of you are going to have to put some heat on the leaders of your own denomination and its support for amnesty. For now, though, you just need to make phone calls to drown out the national Christian leaders' call for amnesty. SOME TALKING POINTS FOR YOUR PHONE CALL 1. Some ! of you m ay want to mention that you disagree with the new Christians for Comprehensive Immigration Reform. But most of you will want to just ignore that and mainly leave the impression with staffers that most Christians take our view against rewarding illegal immigration. (BTW, that is true. Polls show that the more devout a Christian is -- regardless of denomination -- the more likely he/she wants immigration reduced and wants illegal aliens to leave.) 2. "As a Christian, I have compassion for the people who have broken our immigration laws. But I do not believe that illegal aliens and illegal businesses should be rewarded. Illegal aliens should be treated humanely as they are barred from jobs and compelled to go home." 3. "I am a Christian who believes that the stranger in our midst should be treated humanely. But if those strangers have entered this country illegally, they should be humanely caused to go back home." 4. "The Senator's decision on how to deal with immigration is a profoundly moral one. As a (name denomination), I believe the moral path is to act for economic justice and protect vulnerable American workers, their families and their communities from unfair competition of foreign workers. We need reductions in immigration. And we need for the illegal foreign workers to go back home." 5. "The Bible constantly shows that the main purpose of government is to provide for order and for justice. Immigration laws provide for an order that makes possible justice for workers. Without fully enforced immigration laws, the most vulnerable members of our own national community would see their wages and working conditions plummet." 6. "Mercy is something that primarily should be extended by an individual -- not by a government. The granting of mercy to some can mean injustice to others. Granting mercy to an illegal alien creates injustice for the American worker whose job was taken by the illegal alien or whose wages were reduced because of the illegal alien."! See more ethical discussion on this page: http://numbersusa.com/about/ethics.html A number of other stories have been emphasizing the growing lobbying for a comprehensive amnesty from:
I imagine that most of the church leaders taking these stands sincerely believe they are doing the right thing by being compassionate to all foreign workers who want to take American jobs. But the consequences of their actions is profoundly immoral. They fail to look on the faces of the poor of their own communities. While touting racial justice, they ignore the faces of 40% of Black American men who do NOT have a job. They ignore the faces of the 23 million less-educated Americans of all races who do NOT have a job. These church leaders are eager to show their compassion while forcing American workers and families to pay for their largess. While these church leaders beat their chests about how much more moral they are than the majority of Christians in the pews, they callously give away the jobs of vulnerable Americans and collapse the wages in one occupation after another by their advocacy of massive foreign labor. As a life-long committed churchman and Christian, I feel these religious leaders are bringing shame on the Gospel as they have compromised their principles to collude with today's modern Robber Barons. Please make sure you give your two Senators a different view of the practice of Christian faith. Remember as you call to be courteous and show a Christ-like spirit toward those staffers taking your message, -- ROY! |
Start yanking tax exemptions and they will fall in line.
One church not mentioned in the original article is United Church of Christ. They are aligned with the ELCA, Presbyterians, and a spokesperson for that organization was on O’Reilly last night defending this effort. I was also disappointed with O’Reilly’s points and opinions.
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR NONPROFIT OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, REGARDLESS OF CLAIMS THAT THEIR CONVICTIONS REQUIRE THEM TO ASSIST ALIENS. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.
RICO — Citizen Recourse
Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, AND CAN INCLUDE NONPROFIT ASSOCIATIONS.
Tihara Vargas, a graduate student in Baylor’s School of “Social Work and Truett Theological Seminary, works with the network to dispel stereotypes about undocumented workers and encourage churches to see the! ir respo nsibility to immigrants, regardless of their legal status.
“We try to help people get the documentation they need to come under the protection of the law and into compliance with the law,” she said. She points to Jesus’ parable about the Good Samaritan as motivation for ministry. “If Jesus were telling the story today, he’d probably talk about a migrant Mexican worker instead of a Samaritan,” Vargas said”
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Here we go...somebody who never actually READS the Bible for herself, but uses misquoted snatches of Scripture as a liberal talking point to whip conservatives with...
It’s amazing how people who hate God, will attempt use His words against the very ones who believe and honor Jesus as Lord and Savior..
The whole verse and the verses before and after need to be read and understood if someone is going to use them to explain an opinion or belief...
The story of the Good Samaritan has nothing to do with immigration illegal or not..
The Good Samaritan was the one helping...not the one in need..
And the Good Samaritan was on a thoroughfare used by everyone...not in a country where he had invaded without permission..
Watch this!
Kindergarten Kids (aka jackpot babies who will soon vote!!) confront the minutemen chanting “Mexico! Mexico!”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z7YrkpKNB7M
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"Earned legalization. The centerpiece is the earned legalization program, or path to citizenship, for approximately 12 million undocumented residents. Proposals in Congress require at least six years of employment, the payment of a fine and any back taxes owed, and English instructionall before workers (and their families) can become eligible for permanent residency. Those eligible would then have to go to the end of the application line, behind all who are already waiting. It would ultimately take 11 to 13 years for an eligible individual to become a U.S. citizen. Such a program is hardly a giveaway, which is how Websters dictionary defines amnesty.
An earned legalization policy could achieve several objectives. By giving legal status to undocumented workers, it would stabilize the workforce in many industries and increase wages for all those workers. By ensuring that undocumented parents are not removed from their U.S. citizen children, it could promote family unity. By requiring the undocumented population to come out of the shadows and identify themselves to the government, it would enhance national security."
I hate to say it, but little tweaks here and there and you got amnesty.
Don’t waste time with Quakers.
Quakers are also anti-gun, pro-gay and oppose war even in self-defence. The current Quakers are closer to the Unitarians in their religious beliefs than were their antecedents - not they were any better.
Quakers refused to sell food or clothing to American patriots in the Revolution but sold the same materials to the British and they “banned” members like Nathaniel Greene who took up arms to defend America.
Thanks very much for the ping. Anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collectives are likely to join forces.
Great post. My pastor has spoken out against illegal immigration. He used it as an example of how “lawlessness will increase” in the last days, as predicted in the Bible.
Thanks for the info. I'll add it to my list of pro-illegal alien churches.
Great post. Thanks for passing on this info.
It looks like it will take private citizens/groups to file civil RICO lawsuits against employers and others aiding and abetting illegal aliens, hopefully making it much too costly for these scumbags to hire illegals. We know the Feds will do nothing to stop this invasion.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I won't. Thanks for the info.
You are blessed to have such a great pastor.
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