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Rudolph Giuliani on Abortion
FOX News ^ | May 14, 2007 | By Father Jonathan Morris

Posted on 05/14/2007 2:30:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Rudolph Giuliani is making a gamble, which, if successful, will change the face of partisan politics in America: You don’t have to be pro-life or pro-traditional family to be a Republican — you just have to be tough on terror.

After his debut at the first Republican debate, Giuliani infamously wiggled on the question of abortion. On Friday, Giuliani spoke to a conservative group in Texas and clarified his solidly pro-choice position.

In effect, Giuliani reaffirmed his 1997 answers to NARAL Pro-Choice America’s questionnaire in which he supports tax dollars going to every form of abortion, including partial-birth abortion and abortions for minors without parental notification.

On almost every social issue, Giuliani is separating himself from the official party platform. Last week, I highlighted his very mixed record on immigration reform. Add to this his support for gay marriage, strict gun control, embryonic stem-cell research, and above all his renewed advocacy for every type of abortion, and it’s fair to say, that if the Republican party nominates him as their candidate, they will be saying social issues don’t really matter … that much.

Rudolph Giuliani’s gamble is not a secret. On Friday, he explained his rationale:

“The mere fact that I am standing here running for president of the United States with the views that I have, that are different in some respects on some of these issues, shows that we much more adequately represent the length and breadth and the opinions of America than the other party does.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; moralabsolutes; prolife
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Is it just me, or does it seem like the pro-Rudy crowd on FR has been noticeably quieter the last couple of weeks?

It's called forced censorship,, a lot of good people have had their membership revoked.

How can anyone learn anything when everyone in the room thinks the same?

Debate is always good - closing off debate - well.......

But the Golden Rule is what it is - the man makes the rules..

21 posted on 05/14/2007 3:20:36 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Is it just me, or does it seem like the pro-Rudy crowd on FR has been noticeably quieter the last couple of weeks?

That is kind of funny. It was like "a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

Viking Kitties have a way of doing that.

They got banned or opused out to go to an antifreeper forum. Yawn. It was probably less than one hundred of them and many of them had made other people here miserable for years.
22 posted on 05/14/2007 3:20:50 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP รท Rudi = Hillary)
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To: trisham

What you suggest will not happen. Instead, the democrat party will win elections and will continue to move the country more and more to the left. If conservatives could have formed a viable national party, we would have done so by now. In truth, conservatives represent about 20-30% of the republican base, and as such, can exert real influence but cannot dictate every national policy. Best to use that influence wisely and to support candidates who are best (or least harmful) for our county’s future.


23 posted on 05/14/2007 3:22:27 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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25 posted on 05/14/2007 3:49:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jake The Goose; Liz; TommyDale; Jim Robinson
But the Golden Rule is what it is - the man makes the rules.

Remember Jake, the rules for the GOP were made a long time ago.

Life has a need to keep moving along. It is at its best when we do not promote in any way the immoral, self serving destruction of it. Convenience, is comfort without taking any responsibility.

I have noticed when I visit WideAwakes, they all seem to march to the same drummer.

At least at FR, the people are for the little babies and for promoting the human condition! We are at least promoting the furtherance of our culture rather than than acquiescence to the destruction of it!

26 posted on 05/14/2007 3:50:01 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: George W. Bush
That is kind of funny. It was like "a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

Viking Kitties have a way of doing that.

LOL! How true.

27 posted on 05/14/2007 4:03:26 PM PDT by Sister_T (The Axis of Idiocy: The LameStream Media, The DemocRATS and the "peaceful" anti-war moonbats)
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To: TommyDale; jimrob
Last week I was zotted (for several days) for what was termed a "personal insult" in one of my posts. I was guilty.

Is TommyDale guilty?

"You should change your screen name to Jake the Horse's Ass".

I expect others to follow the same guidelines I was rightly held to.

28 posted on 05/14/2007 4:08:18 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose; Jim Robinson; indylindy; Liz

Jake, you accused the owner of this conservative website as being a censor. You know better than that!


29 posted on 05/14/2007 4:09:54 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale

I apologize to Jim Robinson.

Now - you owe me an apology.


30 posted on 05/14/2007 4:14:35 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: TommyDale; Jake The Goose; Liz; Jim Robinson
Jake, you accused the owner of this conservative website as being a censor. You know better than that!

I don't know Jim Robinson, but I do believe he is only promoting this site as a conservative site.

It seems very natural to oppose liberals and liberal candidates on FR.

I believe it is wise, just wise, to keep that in mind. Rooty is a very liberal guy, not conservative material. Opposition to him here is what most would expect!

31 posted on 05/14/2007 4:15:29 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Jake The Goose

Actually, you should apologize to who you made the statement to as well, and others on the thread who read it. Meanwhile, I apologize.


32 posted on 05/14/2007 4:16:12 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale; Jake The Goose; Liz; Jim Robinson
Actually, you should apologize to who you made the statement to as well, and others on the thread who read it. Meanwhile, I apologize.

OMG, apologies all around, I'm buyin!

33 posted on 05/14/2007 4:19:26 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: indylindy

IndyLindy

I respect your civility - but some seem to “have it out for me” - sounds paranoid.

I don’t oppose opposing views on any issues - that’s my point - I welcome it.

I feel like some continuously threaten me for my opinions?

It’s crazy.

Why can’t I engage people with my views - I am not asking anyone to join my views - I simply expect I should be able to speak my mind.

Everyone should have the right - right?

Again - thanks for your tone - it is appreciated.


34 posted on 05/14/2007 4:19:50 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: indylindy

Scotch?


35 posted on 05/14/2007 4:20:44 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale; All

I apologize to everyone for my tone in this thread.

I got hostile - and I am sorry.

I want to feel like I can express my opinions without being tagged or flagged, etc.

FR is great site for anyone who wants to talk about just about anything.

If we differ in our views - I hope I personally can maintain a civil tone - and invite anyone to express any view they might have. I want open dialog.

Debate is our best opportunity to learn.

Again - to all - I apologize for my bad tone earlier.

No excuse.


36 posted on 05/14/2007 4:23:56 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose; indylindy; Liz

We all think open dialog and debate is healthy, but trying to constantly defend someone who violates our core beliefs is not acceptable.


37 posted on 05/14/2007 4:27:12 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale

Incredible.


38 posted on 05/14/2007 4:28:01 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose; indylindy; Liz

What is incredible? The fact that we hold a set of core beliefs, which are regularly stated by the owner of the website? Do you really think you could go somewhere like DU and get an open dialog or debate with them by defending President Bush?


39 posted on 05/14/2007 4:30:04 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale

Wow - you really are an incredible example of ..........


40 posted on 05/14/2007 4:32:29 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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