Posted on 05/16/2007 6:54:51 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
Perhaps nothing that you would credit, RightWhale -- as long as you hope to apply the scientific method to problems of human creativity: Wrong tool, wrong language!!!
FWIW, the "what else?" would be mind and soul. But since we cannot put these "under a microscope," perhaps you will not consider them to be real entities.
There is only revelation. Nothing else. That much falls out of claustral philosophy so far. Give it certainty and highest priority, but it comes with that whether we decide so or not.
If that is the case, you should never attempt, nor even offer opinions, in the field of science. You lack the qualifications.
There is no human creativity. All creativity is Divine. What else you got?
Goes for that opinion, too. The only creativity is Divine. Neither Mozart nor Sagan need think about that: it happens anyway.
It’s probably just terminology, but I would say function or process rather than spiritual. Like I say, this claustral philosophy is, while far from new, relatively undeveloped as such and the concepts will sound somewhat odd at first.
you: If that is the case, you should never attempt, nor even offer opinions, in the field of science. You lack the qualifications.
In your view, only atheists can "do" or "comment on" science and presumably, mathematics. How funny!
A long illustrious line of Christian and Jewish scientists and mathematicians who went before you - and are in the field today - would no doubt be amused.
Amen. If I know nothing else at all, I give thanks that I know this.
You stated:
The most certain - and therefore, highest priority - type of knowledge for me is divine revelation.You have, by your statement, disavowed the scientific method. Why should you then feel qualified to offer opinions in the field of science?
(Mathematics is not a science.)
Huhhhh?
Time to discard Gregor Mendel's studies then, as he lacked the qualifications. (I bet he didn't spend 6 years to finish grad school either)
Did Gregor Mendel use divine revelation as his source of knowledge, or did he use the scientific method?
With the advent of Christ and spiritual regeneration for the individual human spirit within the human soul (behavior mechanism = soul; humankind have the added instructor of spirit complimenting our animal soul), an evolving of spiritual consciousness is happening, but, like evolution of species, this change is so minor when placed against the backdrop of the history and 'aliveness' of the entire species, we fail to see it for what it is, change, growth on a spirit level.
The left is seeking to bring change/evolution also, but the increments appear to be counter to the over-all welfare of the species and certainly inhibiting to the individual ... spiritually of course, when/if compared to the teaching and example of Our Lord.
In deference to Coyoteman, it may well be that the anchoring effect of scientific inquiry will tend to hold culture together as the left seeks to divide and segment and obliterate that which speaks of competition, growth, superior results-oriented behaviors. Science is not the enemy of philosophy, being but one brilliant child of same. Science may turn out to be the stronger child, the one which offers the protections and environment under which individuation can continue despite the leftists tendency to obliterate competition and individuation.
If it is the case that we as a species are evolving on a level not readily sensed in our familiar spacetime, then it will go on regardless of the piddling efforts of humans to direct or thwart it in paroxysms of pride.
That doesn't follow although I suppose one could say instead that she has disavowed the scientific method as the most certain source of knowledge.
An interesting point of view. So what aspect of humans is supposedly in God's image?
That's an encouraging word to me particularly, on a spiritual level actually, and I'm glad you included me in the ping to your whole post!
There was no disavowing in her post. You read into her post what you see due to your preconceived denigrating notions of people of faith. ... I use the occasional pneumatic nailgun, though I own more than four good hammers for various tasks.
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