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- Two young people on the Telegraph Avenue sidewalk could be cited by police under the mayor's plan -- if they were smoking.
1 posted on 05/16/2007 7:55:59 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Liberal mindset: “I have compassion for the homeless because of the way big business has ruined these people and the way the Bush administration has turned their back on them. Now, get off my streets, ya bums, before I give you a ticket for smoking a cigarette! Oh, wait? That’s a joint? Oh, forget it... go ahead and toke on up, man! We need to legalize THAT!


2 posted on 05/16/2007 8:03:09 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: SmithL
Peeing on lamp posts and fornicating in city parks is acceptable, but puffing a ciggie in the open air is punishable by jail time?

Since we are talking about the Peoples Republic then, sure, why not?

4 posted on 05/16/2007 8:04:59 AM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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Let me understand this: common bums won’t be cited for loitering, vagrancy, public intoxication, or obstruction of a public walkway, but only for smoking?

Oh, it’s Bezerkley. Nevermind.


5 posted on 05/16/2007 8:05:21 AM PDT by angkor
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To: SmithL
To pass an ordinance against vagrancy, to roust the homeless, would not be acceptable. But passing a law, against smoking, which they then can hide behind to roust the vagrants, is acceptable?

I have refused for many years to spend money in Berkeley, this affirms my commitment to that pledge.

6 posted on 05/16/2007 8:05:34 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: SmithL
I commented on another thread last week that Berkeley would use the wildly popular restrictions on public smoking to pass the much-more-controversial prohibition on defecating on the sidewalk.

At the time, I thought I was joking! Further proof that it is impossible to parody Berkeley.

8 posted on 05/16/2007 8:12:55 AM PDT by gridlock (On January 20, 2009, Fred Dalton Thompson will be sworn in as President of the United States.)
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To: SmithL

But if they were smoking a joint, that would be OK. The police might even ask for a hit.

The nanny police are everywhere. They know what’s good for us and if we don’t agree, they’re going to give it to us anyway. But first, they may have to take things away from us for our own good.

The self-appointed vast left wing conspiracy nanny police are intolerant fascists, simple as that.


9 posted on 05/16/2007 8:13:23 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: SmithL

Smoking is bad, but will they still be allowed to gulp alcohol and shoot up meth?


10 posted on 05/16/2007 8:15:05 AM PDT by Alouette (It is reminiscent of the world-famous Jewish conspiracy, now extended to also include Jews.)
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To: SmithL

The left wants more homeless. They can use the homeless to claim that Bush is responsible and that the country needs more liberalism.


11 posted on 05/16/2007 8:15:09 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: SheLion; Gabz

Pingaroonie!


14 posted on 05/16/2007 8:51:27 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: SmithL

A typical P.R.B. solution. When San Diego raised parking meter rates, they created a situation where it became more profitable for the homeless to break into the meters. Their meter repair costs exceeded new revenues for many years.

But, they’re Berkeley liberals, so they never learn from the past, or, frequently, even acknowledge there was one.


15 posted on 05/16/2007 9:34:21 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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When the smoking ban came up for discussion before the City Council last week, it was smooth sailing.

"Smooth sailing?" "No-Brainer" would have been a more appropriate term. This is a subject Berkeley-ites and their ilk find a matter of righteousness, and therefore a slam dunk.

16 posted on 05/16/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by LantzALot
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"In fact, it's possible that some council members would ban smoking throughout the entire city."

Now, now ... patience.

Let's take it one step at a time. Ban it here now; outside the mall a few months from now; within six blocks of schools next fall ("for the children"); within fifty yards of your neighbor's dog next year; etc.

That way, we can make headlines each time, and institute a new tax to pay for it each time.

18 posted on 05/16/2007 9:47:08 AM PDT by LantzALot
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Berkeley figures it's found a way to get homeless people off the streets. Keep them from smoking there.

My, how things have changed. When I attended U. C. Berkeley, the city did its best to attract the homeless.

19 posted on 05/16/2007 10:33:16 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: SmithL; Larry Lucido; Gabz; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; JohnHuang2

Isn’t there anything on their books for loitering, vagrancy or public nuisance? Isn’t there anything on any neighboring community books for attractive nuisance, or reciprocity?

Broken window theory indeed.

This is not much of a tribute to the fine gentleman after whom that city and university were named.


21 posted on 05/16/2007 4:24:49 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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SmithL:

When did the tobacco plant become ILLEGAL? When I was a boy in the 1970s, my friend’s dad had a tobacco farm and I used to pick the tobacco. I wonder if I would be ARRESTED for picking the best CIGAR WRAPPER TOBACCO — Shade Grown Connecticut Valley. :)
Only in Berkley!!


26 posted on 05/17/2007 4:20:30 AM PDT by EagleandLiberty (AirAmerica -- a whole owned company of CP USA)
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