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San Francisco Proposes New Gun Control Measures
CBS 5 SAN FRANCISCO ^ | 16 MAY 2007 | AP

Posted on 05/16/2007 7:41:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

I wonder if the DA has ever taken notice of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, HOMES, papers, and effects, against unreasonable search and seizures, shall not be violated and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the the place to be searched , and persons or things to be seized."

To be sure, the amendment allows the proper authorities to search a person's house or other property, but only based on probable cause. I don't believe the amendment's authors would consider that the mere unfounded suspicion of a cop or DA that a resident may possibly be improperly storing a firearm in his or her own home constitutes "probable cause" for issuing a search warrant.

Or perhaps in the liberal's Shangrila known as SF, the 4th Amendment has been repealed by the omnipotent SF mayor and his arrogant toadies. In that case it may be time for that courageous judge who previously threw out SF's gun ban law to once again remind the control freaks in SF's government that their bailiwick is still a part of the USA no matter how much they hate that tie to the real world, and that the Constitution is still the supreme law of the land, no matter how much they may hate it.

41 posted on 05/16/2007 10:10:23 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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To: Gritty
Tell me again why these people shouldn't be labeled "Nazis"?

"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun control. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."
Adolph Hitler (German Chancellor/Clinton supporter)

42 posted on 05/16/2007 10:14:55 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Liberals: Creating New Victim Massacre Zones. Film at 11.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

43 posted on 05/16/2007 10:18:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lurker
A Washington-style handgun ban. Unconstitutional under Parker. Eat THAT Newsome and Harris, San Faggotsco Democrat Thugs!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 05/16/2007 10:21:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I say let SF continue this nonsense, while productive citizens continue to leave town. It will be intersting to see how an entire society of “useless eaters” prevails on their own.


45 posted on 05/16/2007 10:23:52 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"It is fair to say that a majority of gun crime is committed with illegal guns," Harris said.

It is even more fair to say that Mr. Harris is stating the obvious as though it has recently been handed down from on high to him personally.

Here's a clue Mr. Harris, since you obviously don't have one of your own. Any gun used by a criminal to commit a crime is an illegal gun under both federal and CA law, and has been an illegal gun ever since it came into the criminal's possession. Mr. Harris, do you actually believe that a criminal who intends to commit a violent crime with a gun is the least bit concerned that he would also be breaking a law against possessing a gun if he goes ahead with his planned crime? If you're really that short on common sense, I would like to interest you in some exceptional bargains in penny stocks that I happen to have for sale.

46 posted on 05/16/2007 10:24:33 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Fools on a fool’s errand.


47 posted on 05/16/2007 10:29:34 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom announced a new round of gun control measures

What is he going to do - keep his pants buttoned up?

48 posted on 05/16/2007 11:15:19 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: epow
Ever notice how these commies/democrats/liberals always seems to flout the Law & the Constitution and get away with it with impunity?

I loathe those creeps ...

49 posted on 05/16/2007 11:46:30 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

Really...You know what, pretty much anywhere else in this country, that would be considered a home invasion...Subject to serious ramifications, and action from a home owner...

But you keep thinking that Ms. Harris...Why don't you lead these little spot checks...



50 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:25 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Cementjungle

Sign up for what???

Crochet classes???

These people need to submit for random...No check that, manditory urinalysis testing...And the results made public...


51 posted on 05/17/2007 1:39:06 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The idea is to remind legal gun owners how to behave.

Seems to me that the idea would be to remind criminals how to behave.....oh, I forgot; in San Francisco, if you own a gun you must be a criminal.

52 posted on 05/17/2007 5:17:27 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
All this tap dancing to avoid stating that the relatively small remaining "gun problem" in San Francisco is almost 100% a "young urban black male" problem that could be solved by a more vigorously colorblind policing of the Western Addition and Bayview/Hunters Point.

And yet when stayed late after work to go to a concert in San Francisco last Friday night, I saw many of these very same "young urban black males" openly selling drugs at Hallidie Plaza near 5th and Market - the very heart of the city - without a cop anywhere in sight.

So really, Mr. Mayor and Ms. D.A., addressing crime problems in San Francisco is going to require recognition that the stereotypical white guy out in the Sunset with a rifle locked up in his closet really isn't your top priority - even if there is a 1% chance that he might get angry some day and shoot his wife...and later the Mayor and the D.A. Your prime suspects are all standing right out in the open, and with a little wisely directed effort, as Howard Hunter (James B. Sikking) once said on "Hill Street Blues", you can accomplish more urban renewal in fifteen minutes than the Feds have done in twenty years.

This may require telling some "community activists" and part of your political base to go pound sand. But you'll feel much better for it, in the long run. ;)

53 posted on 05/17/2007 5:40:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

Well then, Mz Harris, you are going to have a very bad day. Thus be it ever to tyrants.

God save the Republic because, apparently, the government won't.

54 posted on 05/17/2007 5:58:41 AM PDT by LTCJ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
“On Wednesday, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom announced a new round of gun control measures...”

Mayor Newsom should go back to playing the skin flute and leave the Second Amendment alone.

55 posted on 05/17/2007 6:04:32 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth
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Mayor Newsom hopes to extend the ban to public housing complexes, but federal laws make that complicated.

Hey, since public housing is government funded, and we all know about that "wall between church and state" that's like, in the constitution, like, then maybe we can ban bibles and prayer in public housing too! Cool! Let's get the lawyer on this, like, right away!

The proposed legislation would also require people who commit crimes with guns to sign up with the police department, then probation officers could keep better tabs on them.

As opposed to people who commit crimes without guns? Hey, isn't that a violation of their privacy?

"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

Cool! Unannounced, no-knock raids to see if you've got your guns locked up. Makes them so useful in case of a home invasion attack! Are they going to get search warrants before making these inspections?

Mark

56 posted on 05/17/2007 6:05:03 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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The idea is to remind legal gun owners how to behave.

Exsqueeze me? Wadaya expect from a Barney F___?

57 posted on 05/17/2007 6:08:46 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: MarkL
"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

My first inclination was to question if they even mentioned the Constitution where this idiot went to law school. On closer examination I have to question if she was ever exposed to the concept of sanctity in elementary "skool".

58 posted on 05/17/2007 6:16:20 AM PDT by LTCJ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; HangFire; lowbridge; Lady Jenn
"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.





59 posted on 05/17/2007 6:25:52 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Howie66
<>I’ve about had it with the morons that live there at OUR Expense!

That doesn't make any sense - how does it affect you if other people live in San Francisco? Obviously, I'd never want to live there with gun control laws like these, but if other people want to, that's their problem. Why do you care?
60 posted on 05/17/2007 6:32:48 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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