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To: GOP_Lady
"Judge David Cain (right) of the Franklin County Common Pleas Court ruled that the state overstepped its authority in writing rules exempting private clubs, including VFW halls that had fought to be excluded from the ban."

A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

4 posted on 05/18/2007 5:46:20 AM PDT by RabidBartender (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk)
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To: RabidBartender
Good point.

The legislature overstepped its authority by not banning it completely.

Surreal.

5 posted on 05/18/2007 5:49:41 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: RabidBartender
A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

Polluting the air other people breathe is not a right.

9 posted on 05/18/2007 5:58:00 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: RabidBartender
A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

No, bar and restaurant owners objected to certain establishments being exempted.

I don't blame them. Laws should be applied equally. Even bad laws.

10 posted on 05/18/2007 5:58:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: RabidBartender

Not exactly. The original law passed as a voter referendum. My thoughts on referendums in general are well known (they are stupid), and part of the issue here was that the referendum was very poorly written, including some contradictory provisions

Once the referendum was passed, the legislature was charged with sorting out the mess and passing implementing regulations. Apparently, this judge thought that the legislature’s effort to cure the defects in the referendum was “overstepping its authority.”

Whatever.


46 posted on 05/18/2007 6:28:16 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: RabidBartender
A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

The big brown pile was voted on by the entire state, so we are all to blame. The relevant part of the law is http://www.smokefreeohio.org/oh/about/documents/SFOlaw.pdf:

3794.03 Areas where smoking is not regulated by this chapter.

The following shall be exempt from the provisions of this chapter:

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(G) Private clubs as defined in section 4301.01(B)(13) of the Revised Code, provided all of the following apply: the club has no employees; the club is organized as a not for profit entity; only members of the club are present in the club’s building; no persons under the age of eighteen are present in the club’s building; the club is located in a freestanding structure occupied solely by the club; smoke from the club does not migrate into an enclosed area where smoking is prohibited under the provisions of this chapter; and, if the club serves alcohol, it holds a valid D4 liquor permit.

Now, to me it looks like this allows smoking in private clubs in very limited conditions. I can't figure out how the judge ruled that very limited cases means absolutely no cases.
49 posted on 05/18/2007 6:35:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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