Petition Against Ron Paul's Inclusion in Future Republican Presidential Debates

Petition Spot.com ^ | 16 May 2007 | Lee

[mkjessup]

So the moral of your story is "Don't buy a Ford" ?

No smart arse. Try again.

[dgallo51]

Do you support the CFRs agenda? Where are you on the list?

Roster of CFR/Trilateral Commission Members

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm

[roger55]

>>Do you support the CFRs agenda? Where are you on the list?

Ha. I’m not a named member of the Trilateral Commission, dgallo. So I don’t appear on this list. For disclosure, I’m a Freemason agent and serve as the Illuminati liaison for the ZOG Super Secret Repression of Ron Paul Directorate (SSRRPD). Hope that clears things up. Perhaps you’ve seen our helicopters recently?

[dread78645]

I am in favor of Paul’s exclusion. Not because his ideas have no place in politics, but because they have no place in the Republican party.

So why 3,000 folks died on 9/11 and we're at war with Iraq is anathema in the Republican circles?
I guess that just leaves us to support "true" Republican qualities like abortion, CFR, amnesty, and gun control. -- Go Rudy!

/s

[roger55]

>>>So why 3,000 folks died on 9/11 and we’re at war with Iraq is anathema in the Republican circles?

Of course not. But shifting the blame from Al Qaeda to ourselves, that is (or should be) anathema to Republican circles. In nothing more than for the fact that it’s an outright lie that “50 years” of US foreign policy is the motive for a salafist revolutionary group that wants to rebuild the Caliphate and enslave a billion people.

[MrEdd]

Sniff..Sniff..smells like fear from the Rudy McRomny rinos.

[tcostell]

This is idiotic. I fear the words of no man. Let him speak. If he makes himself the fool so be it.

Even the idea of forcing him to shut up is really beyond the pale, and is more suited to a liberal philosophy than a conservative one. We really do believe in freedom of speech on the right, and will live with the consequences of that choice.

Censorship is really reserved for the academic left where their ideas can't stand to be challenged lest they fall apart.

[ontap]

What censorship! He’s not a republican.

[Colorado Buckeye]

14 in a day and a half? LOL!

How about the petition to the RNC to keep Ron Paul in the debates, currently about 13,000 in just two days.

Thanks for the link. I signed the petition to keep Paul in the debates. The GOP is in trouble and the last thing it should be doing is closing its eyes and ears to dissent.

[roger55]

>>Censorship is really reserved for the academic left where their ideas can’t stand to be challenged lest they fall apart.

This censorship business is a straw man, tcostell. The petition is not advocating censorship. It even explicitly says as much. The petition does not say: “Ron Paul should be silenced, his views have no place in the public arena and he should be forbidden from expressing them.”

Instead the petition recognizes that there are already standards which exist for inclusion/exclusion from debates. Based on that assumption, it then submits that masochistic 9/11 anti-Americanism ought to be one of those standards for exclusion, as much as blaming blacks for their own lynching should be. And at any rate, this only from invitation to future Republican debates.

Paul’s free speech rights are clearly not being questioned. Providing a media platform for his views as a representative of the Republican party, is.

[Rosemont]

Are you trying to generate sympathy for the guy?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I am in favor of Paul’s exclusion. Not because his ideas have no place in politics, but because they have no place in the Republican party.

Rudy Giuliani's views have no place in the Republican Party.

Ron Paul's non-interventionist foreign policy dates back to "Mr. Republican" Robert A. Taft himself. His views may be unpopular in these Neo-Conservative times, but at least they have a distinguished Conservative pedigree.

By contrast, Rudy Giuliani's Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual, Pro-Gun Control, Pro-Illegal Immigration policies have NEVER been "Conservative" by ANY stretch of the imagination.

What, me Liberal?

IF ANYONE should be excluded from the Republican Debates, it should be the man(?) who sought, and received, the endorsement of the LIBERAL PARTY of New York -- ex-mayor Rudy Giuliani; NOT the man who was the Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas -- Congressman Ron Paul.

[Swordfished]

I bet Ron Paul can spell it out for the American people on illegal immigration. I bet he’s for a 50’ high by 25’ thick concrete wall along the whole southern border.

[roger55]

>>>Are you trying to generate sympathy for the guy?

Nope. I’d just prefer to see a debate that isn’t reduced to the deplorable level where my country is blamed for the actions of her enemies. While such a precondition is impossible in the Democratic Party, it really ought not be too much to ask for the Republican.

[Toskrin]

A bunch of thin-skinned people who can’t handle even hearing the opinion of anyone that disagrees with them. You want the party to alienate even more voters?

I don’t agree with what Paul siad, but it sure has highlighted for me the completely brain dead attitude of our candidates and party members on the War on Terror. Scary really.

[BlazingArizona]

As a contrast, I’d submit that saying 9/11 was the fault of the United States in a Republican debate, is equivalent to responding to a question about civil rights violations and saying “those blacks had it coming.” We wouldn’t tolerate that, why should we tolerate this?

This is a reason for not voting for Paul, but not for keeping him out of a debate in which every other idea he has appeals to large numbers of Republicans.

Each of these candidates has at least one position I consider odious. Duncan Hunter looks great on almost all counts until we find out that he supports that ban on Internet gambling. This early in the campaign, we need to air all these differences so a Republican platform can be decided.

[yuta250]

If we are going to start removing Republican candidates because of their anti-American views, I suggest we start with those Republicans who are destroying our country and party by supporting amnesty toward illegal aliens - of which Ron Paul isn't one. If any candidate needs to be yanked it is Rudy, not Dr Paul.

[Ikemeister]

This is an idea that is more representative of Democrats, Communists, Nazis and other totalitarian groups.

I don’t agree with many of his statements, but censorship? I think not!

If we censor him, who’s next?

No thanks.

[Gvl_M3]

“If we are going to start removing Republican candidates because of their anti-American views, I suggest we start with those Republicans who are destroying our country and party by supporting amnesty toward illegal aliens - of which Ron Paul isn’t one. If any candidate needs to be yanked it is Rudy, not Dr Paul.”

I agree. Can we eliminate George Bush now???? Definitely need to keep Rooty out of the debates since he is Pro-Abortion, Pro-Illegal Aliens, Anti-Gun, etc. etc.

Just because Ron Paul says “hey, we might want to look at our past before blindly running into the future” you want to kick him out?

I’m not saying I completely agree with him, but a person or country that can’t analyze past mistakes can never grow.

Since when did knee jerk emotion take over the Republican Party? I thought that was the hallmark of the Democrat Party.

[Scarchin]

But it was a bad idea when Dems excluded Casey for being pro-life?

Grow up. I don't like Paul, but this is how elections work.