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'Sicko' stars thank Moore for Cuba trip (Doublebag barf alert)
AP via Yahoo News ^ | May 19, 2007 | JOCELYN NOVECK

Posted on 05/19/2007 5:56:46 AM PDT by don-o

NEW YORK - It could have been a college reunion: hugs, tears, laughter, photos, and a big friendly guy in shorts and sneakers organizing it all. But the guy in shorts was Michael Moore, whose new documentary, "Sicko," takes aim at the U.S. health care industry with the same fury — laced with humor, of course, and plenty of statistics — that he directed at the Bush administration in his hit "Fahrenheit 9/11."

And the people who'd flown in for this intimate first screening, a day after the film had been shipped to the Cannes Film Festival, included grateful Sept. 11 "first responders," suffering lung problems or other ailments from their days at ground zero. In the film, Moore takes them to Cuba and tries to get them treated at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay — where, he contends, terror suspects were getting better medical care than the heroes of 9/11.

The Cuba trip actually accounts for just a small part of "Sicko," which aims its wrath at private insurance and pharmaceutical companies and HMOs, while praising socialized medicine in countries like France and Britain. Moore fills it with stories like that of a woman whose ambulance ride after a car crash wasn't covered — because it wasn't "pre-approved."

But Cuba has loomed large in the flurry of prerelease publicity. That's because the director, an unabashed critic of President Bush, is being investigated by the Treasury Department for possibly violating the U.S. trade embargo by traveling to the island nation. Moore has fired back with an open letter accusing the administration of "abusing the federal government for raw, crass political purposes."

At his screening Tuesday evening at a Manhattan hotel, however, Moore was focused on the reaction of his invited guests.

"Three years ago tonight, we had the first screening of 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' with victims' families," he told them. "It was a very powerful experience, and now we're honored to have all of you here. We're very proud of this film. We're confident it will have a significant impact."

When the lights came up, Reggie Cervantes, a former 9/11 "first responder" who now lives in Oklahoma, spoke first.

"It was funny. It was real," said Cervantes, 46, who says she suffers from pulmonary ailments, esophageal reflex, post-traumatic stress disorder, ear and eye infections and other problems stemming from time at ground zero. Of the trip, she said: "It feels surreal. Were we really there?"

"This trip opened my eyes," offered Bill Maher, 54, another former ground zero volunteer from Maywood, N.J., who had extensive dental work in Cuba. "I was uneducated. I remembered the Cuban missile crisis. Now, you know what? I'm going back!"

"I'm going with you," replied Cervantes.

Donna Smith, in from Denver with her husband, Larry, was in tears when she spoke. The film opens with their painful story: Plagued with health problems, they were forced to sell their home and move into the storage room of their daughter's house because they couldn't cope with health costs, even though they were insured.

"Health care is an embarrassment to our nation," Donna told Moore. "You give dignity to every American in this film."

Lost in all the publicity over Moore's trip is the reason he went to Cuba in the first place.

He says he hadn't intended to go, but then discovered the U.S. government was boasting of the excellent medical care it provides terror suspects detained at Guantanamo. So Moore decided that the 9/11 workers and a few other patients, all of whom had serious trouble paying for care at home, should have the same chance.

"Here the detainees were getting colonoscopies and nutrition counseling," Moore told The Associated Press in an interview, "and these people at home were suffering. I said, 'We gotta go and see if we can get these people the same treatment the government gives al-Qaida.' It seemed the only fair thing to do."

So the group, which included eight patients — three ground zero workers and five others — headed off by boat towards Guantanamo. From a distance, with cameras rolling, Moore called out through a bullhorn that he wanted to bring his friends for treatment at the naval base. He got no response.

"So there I was with a group of sick people," he says. "What was I going to do?"

The answer: head to Havana. There, the film shows the group getting thorough care from kind doctors. They don't have to fill out any long forms; health care is free in the Communist nation, after all.

But did the American film crew get special treatment because they were, well, an American film crew? Moore and his producer, Meghan O'Hara, insist not. "We demanded that we be treated on the same floor as all Cubans, not the special floor for foreigners," Moore told The AP. Still, the doctors obviously knew they were being filmed, so it's hard to know — although Cervantes said she went back alone with no cameras and was treated similarly.

Treasury officials will not comment specifically about Moore's case. He has a few more days to provide additional information. Moore originally applied in October 2006 for permission to go to Cuba under a provision for full-time journalists, but never heard back.

The patients he brought had all struggled at home with health care costs. Some, like Cervantes, had lost their health insurance because they could no longer work, and were navigating the workmen's compensation system.

John Graham, a disabled carpenter and EMT from Paramus, N.J., came to the screening with his daughters. On 9/11 he was at his job at the carpenter's union offices, near the World Trade Center. He rushed over before the second plane hit, spending 31 hours at first, then helping out for months after that. He says he was later diagnosed with lung problems, burns on his esophagus, chronic sinusitis and post-traumatic stress disorder, among other things: "I need a notebook to remember everything."

Graham, who stopped working in 2004, now lives on $400 per week in workmen's comp payments. He split from his wife and says he is unable to keep up with childcare payments.

In Cuba, Graham had five full days of medical tests and received medication for his reflux problems. Cervantes was treated for eye and nose infections, among other things, and in a drugstore found pills for only pennies that cost her more than $100 at home. Maher had the longest treatment, to correct dental problems — he said ground zero-related stress and dreams about "people falling from the sky" made him grind his teeth at night.

Moore hopes his latest film will make people stop and think about what he sees as the tragic ills of the health care industry.

"We are the richest country in the world," the director said. "We spend more on health care than any other country. Yet we have the worst health care in the Western world. Come on. We can do better than this."


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1 posted on 05/19/2007 5:56:49 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
What fatboy WON’T tell you is that the average Cuban citizen does not even remotely receive the same level of care as the WTC workers were.

What say Moore and the left about the medical apartheid that goes on in Cuba?

2 posted on 05/19/2007 6:04:05 AM PDT by CubaninMiami
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To: don-o

Double bag... you weren’t kidding.


3 posted on 05/19/2007 6:05:25 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Thompson/Franks '08)
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To: don-o

We are the richest country in the world,” the director said. “We spend more on health care than any other country. Yet we have the worst health care in the Western world. Come on. We can do better than this.”

Hey Mike, we are the richest country on earth, because we can spend more money on health care. We have the worst health care in the Western World? You sir are a fool! People come here to get health care. You don’t see large numbers of Americans leaving the U.S. for medical treatment. If you have a cold or need stitches, then the Cuban medical system is fine. If, however, you need a specialist eye doctor (like I do) or a specialist in any field (which many Americans do), then you would be an absolute dolt to go anywhere else.


4 posted on 05/19/2007 6:09:21 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: don-o
esophageal reflex

:::rolling eyes::: What a maroon.

5 posted on 05/19/2007 6:10:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: don-o
""We spend more on health care than any other country. Yet we have the worst health care in the Western world."

Cuba's life expectancy from birth is 77.08 years (74.85 male, 79.43 female). In the US it's 78 years (75.15 male, 80.97 female). Close?

Maybe, BUT the Cubans have about 0 mortality from crack cocaine, because they can't afford drugs. They have about 0 mortality from drive-by shootings, because they can't have guns. And they have about 0 mortality from obesity because, with the exception of Fidel, they're all thin because the can't afford food.

And in any case, no matter how you slice it, 77 is still a smaller number than 78.

Too bad Mr. Moore went to Public Skrool, otherwise he'd know that.

6 posted on 05/19/2007 6:11:29 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: don-o

Check your fmail


7 posted on 05/19/2007 6:12:56 AM PDT by AliVeritas (I see the men and women on the battlefield... where are the men and women here?)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
These are sworn in, card carrying America haters. They are to be pitied.
8 posted on 05/19/2007 6:14:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: don-o

Publicity stunt. Moore has weeks of individual news items planned with the MSM. That is the only way he builds up hype for his trash of lies. Watch for another next week as well. Fat boys’ bank account must be getting thin.


9 posted on 05/19/2007 6:16:01 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
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To: don-o

Go to www.therealcuba.com and look under ‘free health care?’

then ask if Moore and stooges were treated like real cubans!


10 posted on 05/19/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: don-o

So there I was with a group of sick people,” he says. “What was I going to do?”
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The sickest of them was the big fat ugly retarded dipstick leading the pack.

He set this up and the people who went with him were a part of the frame up of the United States, They should be ashamed.


11 posted on 05/19/2007 6:18:24 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: truemiester
Been there. Good link. Thanks.

therealcuba.com.

12 posted on 05/19/2007 6:20:31 AM PDT by don-o (We are "THEY")
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To: don-o

Moore is an egocentric idiot. Lately, the Cannes has become nothing more than a breeding ground for liberal propaganda.


13 posted on 05/19/2007 6:30:04 AM PDT by doc maverick
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To: don-o

Notice their fat asses alway run back here to the US! Why don’t they stay in the Workers’ Paradise?!


14 posted on 05/19/2007 6:31:46 AM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: don-o
I guess his documentary is going to answer the question:

Where is the daily new coverage of all the boats sailing from Florida, headed for Cuba, land of Free and Wonderful Health Care For All?

Why isn't the news media covering this vast flotilla of medical refugees crossing the sea to get their share of CastroCare?

Who is responsible for this massive coverup?

15 posted on 05/19/2007 6:35:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: don-o
So, he says his core complaint is that the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay get better treatment than the average person. Well, who do you think was leading the complaints when we were accuse of mistreating them? Just why do you think we have to give them terrorists this preferred treatment in the first place?
16 posted on 05/19/2007 6:37:49 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: don-o

the only reason michael moore and his cohors want this, is because they assume they will be on the top of the feeding chain. Without the middle class in this country spending money on those boneheads in this country, they’d be at the bottom of the barrell and about as bad off as those poor in cuba.


17 posted on 05/19/2007 6:38:13 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: don-o
I'm certainly no admirer of Michael Moore, and I certainly disagree with his publicized opinions, but I can say this for him:

He's clever, and he has a talent for outrageous, clever, and funny satire. I had to laugh at Roger and Me.

His humor--absurd though it is--is far more clever than the tiresome, scatolic bilge (not that Moore's isn't bilge), that substitutes shock value for cleverness, foisted repeatedly on the public by so-called "comedians".

If Moore--or anybody else--wants to make American health care affordable, then remove the lawyers. The cost of health care could be reduced by half simply by eliminating the Malpractice Crisis. The hidden tax in all health care costs is the plaintiffs' awards, the lawyers' fees, court costs, and the fear of all of them.

If and when government takes over health care, government itself will end the Malpractice Crisis, because ending it is the only way that it will ever become affordable, and politicians and burocrats will have no intention of passing that kind of money on to lawyers and plaintiffs.

Until the American people either (1) bring the Malpractice Crisis to a halt or (2) establish socialized (or communized) medical care, which will bring the Malpractice Crisis to a halt, U.S. health care will remain unaffordable to everyone.

18 posted on 05/19/2007 6:42:13 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Of all that I have accomplished, the thing that I am proudest of is that I have a good heart. ~Oprah)
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To: don-o

Ask the cubans here what kind of health care Cuba has. I was listening to Schnitt one day, medical health care people were calling in, having a fit. They said when they went they even had to bring their own supplies because the island situation was so pitiful.


19 posted on 05/19/2007 7:13:05 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Savage Beast

I agree. He’s good at what he does. Providing shock, misery and endless conspiracy theories for the weak-minded.

I still remember his show TV Nation. It was extreme, but politically borderline down the middle. I’ll admit it, I liked it. Looking back and saying that seems scary. (How was I sucked in?)

Then The Awful Truth came out and you could see a shift to the left. After that, he found his audience (or life-line, if you will) and it’s been pure BS ever since.

It’s all math: he has to be careful. Stay right on the tip of the curve. Go too far over the dip, and, yes, you’ll still have extreme wackos following you, but your “credibility” starts to slip. Don’t go far enough, and you lose your typical liberal bash-Bush gold mine.


20 posted on 05/19/2007 7:13:07 AM PDT by Fred S
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