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Exposing the "Rudy-as-acceptable-conservative" myth
Renew America ^ | May 21, 2007 | Michael Gaynor

Posted on 05/21/2007 8:56:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Columnist, journalist, commentator and author George Will is supporting his fellow baseball fan, Rudy Giuliani, for the Republican presidential nomination and saying that Mr. Giuliani's eight years as mayor of New York were "the most successful episode of conservative governance" in America in the twentieth century.

BUT, Mr. Giuliani was the candidate of New York's LIBERAL Party in each of his three mayoral races (the first a failure, the next two successful)!

AND, when running for mayor, Mr. Giuliani pledged to "rekindle the Rockefeller/Javits/Lefkowitz tradition" of the Republican Party and "produce the kind of change New York City saw with Fiorella LaGuardia and with John Lindsay."

Republicans have plenty of grounds for concern about Mr. Giuliani.

Given Mr. Giuliani's political and personal history, who should be more comfortable with his promise to appoint justices and judges like Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia and Samuel A. Alito, Jr. — pro-lifers or pro-abortioners? (Hint: Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richard: "It's encouraging to see that the front-runner for the Republican nomination for president supports the right to make personal private health care decisions free from government intrusion. Giuliani's principled stand disproves the old-school belief that you have to check your convictions at the Presidential primary door.")

Mr. Giuliani supported liberal Democrat Governor Mario Cuomo for re-election against his successful conservative Republican challenger, George Pataki.

Mr. Will, in "The Political Market is Working" (RealClearPolitics.com, February 18, 2007), opined: "Regarding the Republican race, for many months commentators have said that when the Republican base learns the facts about Rudy Giuliani's personal life (an annulled first marriage, a messy divorce, then a third marriage) and views on social issues (for abortion rights, gay rights and gun control, in each case with limits), support for him will evaporate. But such commentary is becoming self-refuting."

(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.us ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; aliens; amnesty; burningbridges; elections; giuliani; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; pragmatism; sanctuarycities; ticket; winning
"The next month, in "Three Good Options for the Right" (RealClear Politics.com, May 8, 2007), Mr. Will counted Mr. Giuliani as one of the "good options," while conceding that Mr. Giuliani "is comprehensively out of step with social conservatives, and likely to remain so."

"Mr. Giuliani's shifting position on abortion has been the result of political calculation, not principle or enlightenment."

1 posted on 05/21/2007 8:56:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Will should have been a baseball writer. He is abysmal as a political commentator!


2 posted on 05/21/2007 9:03:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Mr. Giuliani's Romney's shifting position on abortion has been the result of political calculation, not principle or enlightenment."

Wouldn't the above sentence be just as true?

3 posted on 05/21/2007 9:08:30 PM PDT by colorcountry ("You step in crap once and spend the rest of your life scraping it off.")
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To: Jim Robinson

If Ronald McDonald were mayor of New York on 9/11 the people that support Rudy would support the clown.


4 posted on 05/21/2007 9:14:51 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: colorcountry

Yup.


5 posted on 05/21/2007 9:16:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
As a Republican voter from New York State, I can remember when Giuliani endorsed and campaigned with Mario Cuomo. When he and Cuomo came to the county I live in, some Republican's met them at the airport and brought a change of party registration form for Rudy.

Then he ran against Hitlery for the Senate and was so afraid of her that he ran away from Hitlery. He was so afraid that he would lose to her that he quit the race and let the unknown Rick Lazio take the shaft. If he gets the nomination, he will run from Hillary again and she will bitch slap him as she did before.

After all, she does wear the pants and he does wear the dress.

6 posted on 05/21/2007 10:00:50 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: GinaLolaB

LOL. Ouch.


7 posted on 05/21/2007 10:10:07 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: if 9/11 had never happened, Rudy Giuliani would already have been laughed off the national political stage because he is simply too inexperienced and too ignorant to be President, never mind his totally amoral social views.

AND, with apologies to Little Richard...

‘Tooty Rudy’


Tutti Fruiti, Not Rudy!
Tutti Fruiti, Not Rudy!
Tutti Fruiti, Not Rudy - Won’t vote for a RINO, NOT NOT NOT!

He got a gal, named Judy,
Been married three times like Rudy,
Got a gal, named Judy,
Been married three times like Rudy,

He was a mayor, and she is a nurse,
For the unborn babies, it couldn’t be worse!

[refrain]

Don’t elect Rudy, don’t send him to D.C.,
Don’t elect Rudy, don’t send him to D.C.,
He stays on the left, fakes it with the right,
He’s flip-floppin’ each and every single night,

[refrain]

Nominate Rudy, and it’s the death of the G.O.P.,
Nominate Rudy, and it’s the death of the G.O.P.,
Rudy’s no conservative, that is a fact,
Rudy ought to run as a liberal Democrat,

[refrain]


thank you very much, thank you very much.


8 posted on 05/21/2007 11:11:02 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Jim Robinson

New Gallup Poll:

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27598

First Choice for 2008 Republican Nomination
Based on Republicans/Republican leaners
May 10-13, 2007

%

Rudy Giuliani
29

John McCain
23

Fred Thompson
12

Mitt Romney
8

Newt Gingrich
6

Sam Brownback
2

Tommy Thompson
1

Mike Huckabee
1

Tom Tancredo
1

George Pataki
1

Duncan Hunter
*

Jim Gilmore
*

Chuck Hagel
*

Ron Paul
0
————————————————————end of poll

Giuliani sinking a little, but still leading, and McCain still in the 20s? Yikes.


9 posted on 05/21/2007 11:16:49 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: SaxxonWoods

This is even more shocking. OK, well it is Gallup, but still...

“It is interesting to note that while support for Giuliani is lower in Gallup’s new poll compared with the previous survey, there has been no decline in Republicans’ views of him personally. The percentage of Republicans viewing him favorably stands at 81% today, compared with 79% in early May.”


10 posted on 05/21/2007 11:29:35 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: SaxxonWoods

80% of Americans can tell you who won American Idol, but can’t tell you who the Vice President of the US is. That support for Rudy will drop drastically as the currently ill-informed learn of Rudy’s core beliefs.


11 posted on 05/22/2007 4:10:17 AM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi línea de etiqueta al inglés)
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To: 50mm

I agree with your premise in general, though whether the drop will be drastic I can’t determine at this time.


12 posted on 05/22/2007 10:44:15 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: GinaLolaB; Jim Robinson

Exactly!

If Rooty is “the only one who can beat Hillary,” then why did he run away from the chance to prove it in 2000 and again last year?


13 posted on 05/22/2007 10:49:26 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Exposing the “Rudy-as-acceptable-conservative” myth”

Rudy is acceptable. Just read the platform of the Democrat party to find out who he is acceptable to.


14 posted on 06/14/2007 5:59:44 PM PDT by Grunthor (Imwithfred.com)
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