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I’d like to see an end to the “anchor babies” situation - but I do realize that it’s beyond the scope of this bill.

Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., defended Kyl, one of the chief architects of the immigration reform package, as a conservative Republican.

“This is a conservative bill. What people haven’t appreciated fully yet — and I think they will when they step back and actually see the language — is that Kyl won some big concessions on this for some areas of real concern,” Flake told the Tribune.

This country is doomed.

I know my state Republican leader got an email from me. He responded pleasantly. I suspect he took the time to reply because I'm one of maybe 14 Republicans in the state of Washington.

Writing him was actually abnormal for me. I'm betting that if I bothered to write the Republican leadership, all across the country they got slammed with phone calls, emails and letters.

“I’ve got to tell you, when you have people coming in every day, tearing up their registration cards and throwing them on the floor or changing their registrations from Republican to independent, it’s a little bit disconcerting,” he said.

Heh...

Furthermore, a better program would have extended consideration to the length of time illegal immigrants have lived in the United States when determining eligibility for granting legal status, Pullen said.

So the longer someone has broken the law by staying here illegally, the more favorable their treatment would be.

Do these nimrods ever stop to think through this idiocy?

“This is a conservative bill.”

Unbelievable....

Pullen for the Party

Arizona Politics and Policy from Randy Pullen and the staff at the Arizona Republican Party
May 20, 2007
The Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2007

On behalf of the more than one million registered Arizona Republicans who care very deeply about this state and have a tremendous love for our great nation, I am very disappointed in this new legislation about to be introduced in the U.S. Senate next week. The bill would allow all 12 million plus illegal aliens to remain in this country indefinitely and provides them, as well as their immediate families, a path to citizenship. This is amnesty, as they will be working and living in the United States, while those who have applied legally for Visas are still awaiting entry.
Furthermore, the bill does not require certification that our borders are secure. Instead, enforcement “triggers” such as building 370 miles of fence along a 2,000-mile border and increasing our Border Agents from 14,000 to 18,000 are to be certified. There are no requirements that theses triggers be shown to be effective before the granting of sweeping amnesty. If Senator Kennedy and his Democratic friends were serious about securing the border, they would have agreed to real standards for border security in the bill.
Over the past several days, the Arizona Republican Party has had hundreds of calls from activists, voters of all partisan persuasion, precinct committeemen and women, and even chairs of legislative districts and county committees questioning the judgment of our elected officials in Washington, D.C.
We here in Arizona are living each day on the front lines of the immigration debate because it’s our children who are subjected to the drugs first coming across the border and appearing in our schools. It’s our hospitals here in Arizona that treat the millions who have crossed the desert to get here illegally and our Arizona taxpayers who foot the bill. It’s our Arizona communities that have become the battlegrounds for the thousands of gang members who traffic in people, drugs, weapons and stolen vehicles.
To Congress we say: this proposed law with 790 pages of new bureaucracy and window-dressing will not solve the immigration problem. This legislation is an over complicated answer to problems it’ll never adequately address and will do more to encourage illegal immigration than to discourage it. Instead, prove your commitment to securing our borders by finishing the fence, adding border security technology, letting Border Patrol do their jobs and authorizing more National Guard to assist the Border Patrol.
Posted by Randy

Pullen for the Party

• A temporary worker program that limits the amount of time foreign workers may spend in the United States.

This is the biggest laugher of the bill. Who's going to track these people? They deport them now and they can't find them to send them back. How are they going to track a few million more?

• The “touch-back” provision that requires heads of households to return to their native countries to apply for citizenship.

Ha, another laugher. More people we have to track that will never be found.

• An end of “chain migration,” an immigration platform that awards citizenship status based largely on ties to family members who already are U.S. citizens. The new bill calls for the selection process for future immigrants to be based on a points system that rewards employment criteria, education and knowledge of English.

Pelosi and other liberals are already pledging to take out the chain migration part of the bill and many of our gutless leaders will probably go for it.

“The notion that this is amnesty when the fastest anybody could get citizenship is 13 or 14 years is just crazy,” Flake said.

Empty promises. Just like all this was going to get fixed in the 1986 bill. It only got worse. They'll say whatever it takes to get it passed and then won't enforce half of it.

“This is a conservative bill. I don’t think it’s conservative at all to just ignore the problem and pretend to solve it by doing something at the border.”

Nonsense. Nobody wants to ignore it. We want the border closed FIRST and then address the illegals already here. They don't want the fence first because they really don't want to solve the problem.

I'm about as disgusted as I've ever been with the Republican leadership and that's saying something after living through the spineless leadership of Trent Jellyfish Lott, Bill Frist, et al. There's going to be a tsunami at the ballot box if they don't wake up.

Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., defended Kyl,

This is one flake that has an correct last name. Fits him perfect, "Once a flake always a flake "

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

O’Reilly summarized the theme of most of his callers on his Friday radio show - most callers don’t trust the government to actually do any real enforcement. That’s why we want to see enforcement first. If there is real enforcement, the illegals will go home on their own. There won’t be any need to track down and deport 12-30 million illegals. The fact that the globalists keep arguing for “comprehensive” reform is because they have no intention of interior enforcement.

Somewhere I read that Kyl stated in a few years people will forget about it and vote GOP again as if nothing happened. It’s just incredible arrogance from these sellouts.

A temporary worker program that limits the amount of time foreign workers may spend in the United States.

It adds 400,000 temporary workers a year, which allows them to stay two years and bring their families. They can then renew it twice with a one year hiatus between renewals. And then what happens if they disappear?

• The “touch-back” provision that requires heads of households to return to their native countries to apply for citizenship.

They don't have to apply for citizenship. They get legal status immediately and can renew their Z visas indefinitely, which allows them to travel back and forth, bring their families [spouse, children, and one set of parents], and enroll in SS/Medicare.

• An end of “chain migration,” an immigration platform that awards citizenship status based largely on ties to family members who already are U.S. citizens. The new bill calls for the selection process for future immigrants to be based on a points system that rewards employment criteria, education and knowledge of English.

Chain migration, as currently structured, doesn't end for another 8 years and is in fact accelerated. Chain migration will still remain accounting for 40% of all new immigrants.

Kyl struck a Faustian bargain and the Dems can change whatever provisions they want in subsequent Congresses especially if a Dem wins the WH in 2008.

"Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,

For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;

And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,

And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

Rudyard Kipling

Kyl is a Fool who tried to hustle the Dems.

“I’ve got to tell you, when you have people coming in every day, tearing up their registration cards and throwing them on the floor or changing their registrations from Republican to independent, it’s a little bit disconcerting,” he said.A little disconcerting ???This is what I am doing here in North Carolina(changing to not affiliated). The old boy might buy a clue. Does he think people are doing these things for the fun of it ??? Guess 2008 is REALLY going to be a surprise for some.

Oooo, do I smell cooked goose?

““The notion that this is amnesty when the fastest anybody could get citizenship is 13 or 14 years is just crazy,” Flake said.”

Illegals DO NOT CARE ABOUT CITIZENSHIP!! Flake, YOU FLAKE!!!!

An amendment needs to be proposed stating the following:

“All portions of this legislation shall be inoperable until the completion of the border fence as mandated under previous statute.”

Congressman Flake is either a fraud or a liar, he simply cannot believe what he is saying.

"A temporary worker program that limits the amount of time foreign workers may spend in the United States."

Germany invented Guest Workers back in the '60s. I'm very familiar withe the German experience. There ain't no such thing as "temporary" workers.

"The “touch-back” provision that requires heads of households to return to their native countries to apply for citizenship."

The entire "path to citizenship" is a fraud. These illegal aliens are not interested in becoming citizens or even less in becoming Americans. All of this happens AFTER the illegal aliens get what THEY want: Legalization with the Z visas. With the Z visas they get all the beneftis of citizenship with none of the drawbacks.

"An end of “chain migration,”

Who believes this? Bueller. Bueller. Bueller.

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