Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye
...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
The Old South, the bastion of American capitialism.
That is, if you can blur the distinction between labor and capital.
Gauleiters, commissars and Confederate slaveowning Democrats, all the same, all flushed down the toliet bowl of history.
Typo. Santeetah = Santeetlah. And the big trees are on a two-mile loop trail in Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest, not in nearby Horse Cove campground.
I agree with your later comment about deserts. One nice place in the desert to visit is Sabino Canyon in Tucson. Visit in the spring when the cactus are blooming and in the morning before it gets hot. The nature trail next to the visitors center is flat and short, and contains more species of cactus than you ever imagined. Sabino Canyon has a tram that goes up canyon for a couple of miles. You can get off at various stops along the route and later reboard the tram.
Here's an excerpt showing that there was more mutal respect between the two sides than we sometimes see on message boards today.
Just back of these, and about equally distant from the creek, were the guards of the Confederate pickets. The sentinel on their post called out in like manner, "Turn out the guard for the commanding general," and, I believe, added, "General Grant." Their line in a moment front-faced to the north, facing me, and gave a salute, which I returned.
The most friendly relations seemed to exist between the pickets of the two armies. At one place there was a tree which had fallen across the stream, and which was used by the soldiers of both armies in drawing water for their camps. General Longstreet's corps was stationed there at the time, and wore blue of a little different shade from our uniform. Seeing a soldier in blue on this log, I rode up to him, commenced conversing with him, and asked whose corps he belonged to. He was very polite, and, touching his hat to me, said he belonged to General Longstreet's corps. I asked him a few questions--but not with a view of gaining any particular information--all of which he answered, and I rode off.
Great post! But they are not going to listen. It will go back to the same old arguement. The CW was fought to end slavery, blah blah blah.
Yes, it is. Take Bill and Hillary, for instance. Bill Clinton is well respected and much loved and Hillary is a presidential candidate. Funny indeed.
Not for the North, no.
Bears repeating. The north wasn't concerned about slavery either.
That's just the perspective of part of the South, a small but influential part. For quite a different perspective on the Confederacy, I recommend JS Hurlburt's History of the Rebellion in Bradley County, East Tennessee, a book written in 1866. It details a Confederate reign of terror in an overwhelmingly Unionist county. Widespread extortion of Unionists by reb authorities, hounding old men to death, suppression of "negro preaching" by the authorities and a great description on how the politicians ignored the will of the people of Tennessee and illegally took the state out of the Union are just some of the horrors detailed. Not Gone with the Wind, but it's excellent evidence that the Confederacy and the South are two different things altogether.
And this myth has been so thoroughly accepted that even the smartest people , including Rush Limbaugh, have accepted it. There is a Civil War Monument somewhere, I'm not sure where; my son saw it. On it, it says the sad thing is that history will be rewrote in favor of the winners and the truth will never be taught. Not the exact quote but close. Maybe someone will know about this monument and where it is. I do not.
He believed in what he was fighting for. You don't go to war and act like that war is your fault. This what the libs want us to do in the WOT.
If that is the case, then hanging them would have been justified.
I think there's a difference in poisoning wells and bridge burning. I don't think many people on either side would have a great deal of sympathy with poisoning water.
But I admire the bravery of Unionist bridge burners. That's just an expression of patriotism and loyalty to the Stars and Stripes.
What a great line! I wish I'd have thought of it. LOL
Very well said!
You call it the War of Southern Rebellion and call southerners fanatics. LOL
Watch out for the worst of them all. Those that would wish to expunge history WANT to repeat it all over again. Except they want to do it better(?) faster and more completely. Doesn’t anyone get it? I want people to wear their passions, no matter how ill conceived on their sleeves. It makes them more easily able to be identified and combatted. Germany bans the use of the swastika. I am against it. If I was a german I’d say go ahead and wear that swastika so I can know who you are and fight you. Governmentally suppressed rules of expression hurt us.
I have seen a lot of America and to me The Great Smokey Mountains National Park is the most beautiful place I have ever seen.
Thanks for the info. I have never been furthur west than South Dakota. I’d love to visit the deserts of the west. And I want to see the big Montana sky.
Visit Bar Harbor Maine and I camped and rafted in and around the Smokey Mountains.
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