What Does It Mean "The South Shall Rise Again":

The Wichita (KS) Eagle ^ | 23 May 2007 | Mark McCormick

[Rebeleye]

...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.

[Witchman63]

Stand on the edge of the Grand Canyon. Bar Harbor Maine is the most beautiful and the Grand Canyon it the most awe inspiring.

[wardaddy]

. Are you an independent, or do you attend meetings with other south-haters?

keeping the flame lit for old WLAT he is...

[carton253]

To put the entire blame on the South (which you do on most of these threads) for starting the war is like the Arabs saying the Israelis started the Six Day War.

The South was looking for a fight. There is no denying that. Beauregard in Charleston was itching to fire on those forts.

Lincoln by resupplying the forts, on purpose, gave the South the provocation.

Both sides are equally guilty for this war. No side escapes censor for its start.

So, let me repeat my main point: The South was looking for a fight, and Lincoln only too gladly gave them what they were looking for.

You can spin and dance around this issue all you want, but both sides thought it would be decided at First Manassas and both sides thought they would get want they wanted. A restored Union or Independence. In that mind set, they only too eagerly collided at Fort Sumter.

[durasell]

How dare you inject history into this discussion!

[carton253]

I know... the nerve of me! LOL!

[lentulusgracchus]

There. I fixed it for you.

Yeah, just like you did Charleston and Atlanta.

[lentulusgracchus]

Good post, ma'am, and a passage that has been quoted oh, these many times in these threads about the nature of the Union under the Republic (as opposed to Mr. Lincoln's Gilded Empire), and even by myself sometimes.

But that is precisely the Federalist number I was thinking of, when I said that posting things will get you nowhere with the people who've drunk from the Kool-Aid proferred by Harry Jaffa and the latterday defenders of the myth cobbled up by Lincoln's inner circle after the War.

Whose biographies, no less a partisan than Mark Neely on the other side has ventured to say, have not yet been written.

Now why do you suppose that so many highly influential, even dispositive, personalities as the people who surrounded Lincoln during his campaign for the nomination in 1860 and his years helping organize the Republican Party in the West in the years immediately prior, who bulked tall and wide in Illinois and even national politics during Lincoln's administration and afterward, never got their definitive scholarly biographies written, in the course of 150 years?

Why do you suppose that so stalwart, so thick a pillar of Lincolnism as Salmon P. Chase, whom Lincoln put on the Supreme Court precisely to write the fictitious "opinion" of the Court in the Texas vs. White case that declared the acts of the People null and void during the Recent Unpleasantness, if they ran counter to the will of Lincoln and his faction, never got HIS official, scholarly, detailed and dispositive biography written? And he a Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, author of so many Imperial rescripts -- ah, excuse me, I meant "landmark opinions of the Court"?

Inquiring minds want to know why is there this big void, this hole, this abcess around Lincoln the politician and his political friends and operatives.

[lentulusgracchus]

How do you two Nazi Hunters explain away Judah P Benjamin?

They can't. Or won't. Want to see some of those posters fall into thunderous silence? Just get up a quick repartee about the life and career of Secretary Benjamin for about 20 or 30 posts.

Crickets.

[lentulusgracchus]

Gauleiters, commissars and Confederate slaveowning Democrats, all the same, all flushed down the toliet bowl of history.

It would be beneath anyone on this board to reply with any argument based on reason or history, to your libel.

Oh, and learn to take time to spellcheck. Your spirit of sectional invective begins to show, when you let your words outrace your brain like that.

[Razz Barry]

I’m going to fly the Union Jack, just to see how many city fools contact me to take it down. I don’t think they can tell the difference.

[carton253]

Could not have said it better myself.

[napscoordinator]

You can lead a yankee to the truth, but that doesn’t overcome years of public schooling and indoctrination of the terminally brain dead.

I have been quiet during this and watch reading because I am definitely one to have learned a lot from FREEPERS especially with regards to the South. Now are you saying that the Yankees have a worse education problem than the South? I think that you have crossed the line on that especially when you have Mississippi and Alabama the two worst education states in the Country. Oh and Arkansas is not much better...You really need to think before you write ridiculous statements.

[carton253]

No, I don't think that is what Leatherneck is saying at all. He can correct me, but he is saying that in the public school system in the north, the historiography of the Civil War has very little bearing on the history of the war.

I think you read offense where none was intended.

But I give you accolades... you fired back in such a way that it certainly puts all us Southerns in our place. LOL!

[Non-Sequitur]

I do not, nor have I ever lived in the northeast. Nor do I intend to so you don't have to worry about me ever having to get my rump out.

That wouldn't make any difference to me since I don't live in the Northeast either.

I have lived in the midwest but thats a whole nuther world. Oh, and by the way, we do have seasons here. Summer and February.

Feburary is May with sleet.

And you have been trashing the south pretty good, too.

Where?

[Non-Sequitur]

So do you want to join Kangaroo in the Confederates as Nazis argument?

Are you joining lentulusgracchus in his Union as Nazi arguement?

[carton253]

Let me clarify one more thing. What is being taught in Northern schools is historiography and not history. I believe that is what Leatherneck_Mt was referring to.

And before I have the northern contingent rushing to post a "so's your mother" argument, let me write that I realize that in southern schools, it is a southern historiography that is being taught in place of history.

[Non-Sequitur]

It’s just a slander, there’s no need to explain.

You mean you can't explain.

Non-S hates the South, likely from envy.

Hardly. What is there for me to be envious about?

I suspect he wishes he had a culture to claim.

If I want to examine a living culture I'll grab a container of yougurt.

[durasell]

So, they don’t sell those nifty Sherman “Where’s the danged Sea?” Beach Towels in the south?

[Non-Sequitur]

The difference between the north and south is more of a culture thing than a geographical thing.

Sure it is.

[TexConfederate1861]

Well, these acts I speak of were done BEFORE secession, by hardcore abolitionists. The City of Denton, TX was burned almost to the ground. There was no bridge burning that I know of. These people were of the same ilk as John Brown.