Joe McCarthy: Gone But Certainly Not Forgotten by Michael M. Bates

New Media Journal ^ | May 25, 2007 | Michael M. Bates

[what's up]

True...newspaper reds had been attacking McCarthy for years. However, McCarthy largely soldiered on undaunted.

But the advent of TV journalism led by CBS changed things IMO. TV catered more to the masses and the lefties there were able to demogogue through appearance and pictures. I believe McCarthy began to lose his steam when Murrow took him on because it was impossible for McCarthy to compete with the "glamour" of TV.

Sort of the same principle by which many say Nixon lost his debate with Kennedy because he didn't appear have to same movie-star qualities on TV (however, many of those who heard the debate on the radio thought Nixon had won).

[K-oneTexas]

This is true. I think also he help with his drinking, a enemy he could not beat.

[ckilmer]

Waves of immigrants who came to the USA from 1880-1920: the poles the italians the irish the jews. Most of them voted for FDR by large majorities in 1932, 1936 & 1940. Today only the jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities. Why? The reason for this dates explicitly to the McCarthy period from 1950-54. The reason this is so is because Hollywood still strenuously maintains the communist lie about that era. This lie is maintained by movies in the last years called “A Beautiful Mind,” and “Good Night and Good Luck”.

There are various reasons given as to why Stalin initiated the Doctor’s Plot in the early 1950’s before he died. The KGB hated Israel. Many Americans who were enthusiastic supporters of the UN were Jewish.

Edvard Radzinsky in his book “Stalin” argues that while at one time Stalin hoped Jewish financial capital would help rebuild the Soviet Union after the WWII, Stalin hated the prospect of suborning himself to the Baruch Plan and he flat out rejected IAEA nuclear controls—presented in 1946. The Russians were working on their own abomb based on stolen US designs. (Stalin’s attitude is not entirely dissimliar to that of Iran today.)

Whatever the reason, Stalin fomented the Doctor’s plot hysteria and broke off diplomatic relations with Israel. He was within days of preparing to exile the Soviet Jews to the Gulag (as was done previously with various other ethnic minorities such as the Crimean Tatars, Chechens, etc.), and initiate another great purge along the lines of 1938.

The important thing to recall is that the Doctor’s Plot happened at the same time as the McCarthy anti communist business from 1950-54

Stalin already had the concentration camps set up. And some of the preliminary accusations had gone out for the Doctor’s Plot when he died in 1953.

At the same time the Rosenburgs were tried and executed for treason in the USA in 1953—and this less than a decade after the Holocaust. This naturally caused fear and suspicion in the US Jewish community. This fear and suspicion was played upon by knowledgeable communists and leftists—large numbers of whom were jewish. These folk not only knew about what Stalin had done in the 1930’s and was about to do with the doctor’s plot—before he died— but also saw the Rosenburg trials as show trials american style ... that is, a prelude to an american pogrom.

What Stalin had planned to do— in a brilliant piece of jujitsu —leftists and communists imputed to Americans on the right. But it was done soto voce. Basically a blood libel was perpetrated on Americans without their knowing it. Worse, protestant america were painted as tribal enemies tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without protestant america even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any protestant tribal enemies of Jews in the USA. If this were so then the founder of the JDL, Meyer Kahane would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else. He also heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland. When he went to give battle, the only sorts of fights the JDL could find resulted in unintelligible court disputes in places like Idaho. In the end, Kahane married an american woman & helped expedite Stalin’s last wish—to rid Russia of Jews. When Kahane died it was at the hands of a Moslem in 1990.

While the American public outside NY/LA were generally given the view that the McCarthy era was an age when innocent men were unjustly tried by suspicious anti semites like McCarthy & Nixon—the NY/LA Jewish establishment was given a very different story. They were given to understand that the democrats/liberals had prevented the US from visiting a holocaust on them. And that therefor American Jews owed their loyalty to the liberal democrats because the liberal democrats were the protectors of the Jews.

And this Meme went on untouched for decades after McCarthy.

This dual track story line didn’t crack until the early 1990’s when the kgb/nkvd/gru opened up their files on the WWII-McCarthy Period. In 1995 the US’s NSA agency opened up their Venona files. Both Russian and American spy agency files showed that McCarthy was right. The US government —as well as the Manhattan Project—had been at one time soaked with Russian Spies. The Rosenburgs were guilty. While McCarthy was wrong in most the details he got the general outline of the story right. Why did McCarthy get the outline right and the details wrong? The reason is McCarthy’s relationship to Hoover was the same as Hoover’s relationship to the NSA.The NSA told the FBI about the Venona intercepts but insisted that the FBI could not use NSA intercepts as evidence in court. The FBI had to develop their own leads. As a result most of the spies escaped prosecution. The FBI did not get their man.

In 1950 J Edgar Hoover began weekly meetings with Joseph McCarthy. Those meetings ended in 1954. The beginning and end of those meetings coincided with the beginning and end of McCarthy star turn in the national spot light. McCarthy got most of the details of the spy story wrong but he got the general outline of the story right. His predicament was the same as that of the FBI. Whatever Hoover told him—McCarthy could not use in the senate hearings. To this day the FBI denies that Hoover told McCarthy anything about the Venona Cables and maybe Hoover said nothing explicit to McCarthy for which Hoover could be liable in court.

Needless to say, an American style shoah was never in the cards.

The reason that hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in hollywood during the McCarthy period. During this period to be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC was to be at least vaguely anti semetic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA. Why? In Russia, communism was a way to get ahead for the jews. As well, there was a biblical antecedent for jewish communists in the bible in the person of Joseph in Egypt. Why? Because the relationship between jews to joseph’s Egypt maps over well to jews in Russia. And the history of the jews from Joseph to Moses looks very similiar to the rise to prominance of many jews in the soviet communist bureaucracy from the 1917-1970 and the decades long expulsion of Russia’s jews after 1970 when it became clear that communism was not working. The Russians blamed Russian jews for the failure of communism.

Reagan was among the first wave of FDR democrats to switch parties. Reagan’s star turn in Hollywood ended after McCarthy. However, his experiences in Hollywood served him well when he went into public service. He always understood the jujitsu of media talk of the age. Something that cannot be said of Nixon.

When I hear American based Moslems talking about McCarthyism being visited on them. I have to laugh. They don’t know that they have pronounced themselves guilty in the eyes of many Americans.

As for the democrats, part of the reason for the loss of their inner coherence has been that part their foundational raison d’être steming from the McCarthy era was revealed to be based on a lie. So now the core of the democratic party is the sodomites. Those folks are not just confusing. They are confused.

David Horowitz interviewed by Rush Limbaugh a couple months ago talked about how his parents were communists and he was a communist in college. He said when he was in college his views were always treated respectfully by his professors. But he said recently a young christian college student told him that his homosexual college professor had singled him out in class and asked him “Why do you christians hate queers.” Asked why he continued to do what he did in the face of all the abuse he gets, David Horowitz said like Rush he took public political positions because he had to. But also he said he did it as a matter of atonement.

He gets it.

Venona Historical Writings that include comparisons of venona and russian spy lists and the changing venona story in the academy.
http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page43.html
http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/index.html

[Mack the knife]

“In the early 1950s, Sen. Joe McCarthy recklessly - and often inaccurately - accused hundreds of Americans of Communist sympathies. His name will forever define a savage, sad time in our history.”

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From the review of Ann Coulter’s book “Treason” on Amazon:

“Reexamining the sixty-year history of the Cold War and beyond—including the career of Senator Joseph McCarthy, the Whittaker Chambers–Alger Hiss affair, Ronald Reagan’s challenge to Mikhail Gorbachev to “tear down this wall,” the Gulf War, and our present war on terrorism—Coulter reveals how liberals have been horribly wrong in all their political analyses and policy prescriptions. McCarthy, exonerated by the Venona Papers if not before, was basically right about Soviet agents working for the U.S. government.”

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/935830/posts
Tailgunner Joe—Where Have You Gone, Joe McCarthy?

[Calpernia]

Yes.

(snip)

This brings us to Senator McCarthy’s death. He was in his 40s when he died on May 2, 1957. He died at Bethesda Naval Hospital, the same hospital from which that other great Patriot, Secretary of the Navy, Forrestal, fell or was thrown to his death. Senator McCarthy’s death certificate reads “Hepatitis Unknown.” There were so many conflicting reports concerning his death that it is very confusing. Medford Evans, the man who wrote “The Assassination of Joseph R. McCarthy” was convinced that the Senator had been murdered, and I’m inclined to agree with him. But I hope his life will encourage others to learn the truth, and I pray that the truth will lead America back to a Christian government. Joseph McCarthy was buried at Appleton, W.I., where every Spring there is a Memorial Service. These Memorial Services are held under the auspices of the McCarthy Educational Foundation, which has been doing an excellent job of keeping his memory alive... The Foundation would like to continue the placement of the Senator’s two books in high schools and colleges... Both Senator McCarthy’s “McCarthyism, The Fight For America” and “America’s Retreat From Victory,” the story of George Catlett Marshall, are available from the Joseph R. McCarthy Educational Foundation, Inc, 2219 South 65th Street, Milwaukee, WI, 53219... Thank you so much for listening, and thank you for helping to bring some truth back to America. May God bless the memory of a great Christian Patriot, Joseph R. McCarthy.

(snip)

Much more at post and thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/935830/posts?page=58#58

[Calpernia]

I’m reading the Naked Communist by W. Cleon Skousen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3b9b364f83.htm

He said this too:

>>>>But I hope his life will encourage others to learn the truth, and I pray that the truth will lead America back to a Christian government.<<<

[Calpernia]

>>>>Venona Papers

http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/history/foxpaper.htm
Venona and the Maturation of American Counterintelligence [1]

.... the Bureau intercepted coded messages passed from Soviet agents in Mexico to a mail drop in the United States....

Mexico, huh?

[Calpernia]

(bump to come back and buy movie)

[Calpernia]

Looks like we even have a thread on it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/622675/posts
Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies,.....Or... Joe McCarthy was more right than he ever knew

[mountainfolk]

I have always thought that the correct name of the committee was The House Committee on unAmerican Activities. My understanding is that the left, playing their word games back then as they do to this day, was trying to redefine the committee itself as un-American because it was investigating communist activities. If there is a way to access the early documents of the committee it would be interesting, as well as enlightening, to know for sure which title was the original.

[VOA]

Thanks for dredging up that archival thread on “Secret, Lies and
Atomic Spies”.
If you buy it on DVD, be forewarned that the part about traitorous
Ted Hall is pretty nauseating. He and his family thought they were
just so incredibly brilliant that they naturally sided with the Communists
(unlike the common riff-raff in the USA that, I presume, paid Ted’s
research salary through tax dollars.)

[Calpernia]

I was only able to find it on VHS. I got it though. I will also back it up on DVD.

[VOA]

“I was only able to find it on VHS. I got it though. I will also
back it up on DVD.”

Sorry about that...I presumed it was on DVD.
Some really good stuff from PBS (e.g., “Chasing The Sun” about civil
aviation) I’ve only been able to find on VHS.

[Calpernia]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/inte_19441112.html

>>>>A young prodigy, Hall began studying at Columbia University at age 14 and graduated from Harvard at 18 with a degree in physics.<<<

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1752044/posts
Columbia Defends Its Nazi Links: “Everyone Was Doing It”

[VOA]

Thanks for the prompting on Ted Hall.
Yes, he was brilliant in science/physics.
But like a few of the atomic scientists in the USA...not brilliant
in terms of practicality and getting a clear picture of The Evil Empire.

[AuntB]

I had never heard about questions surrounding McCarthy’s death. He was JFK’s mentor and political idol.

[Calpernia]

That is because, anything with info the ‘left’ doesn’t like, seems to go out of print.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a7f91723a2b.htm
Forty questions and answers about Senator Joseph McCarthy

[fieldmarshaldj]

It’s properly HCUA. “HUAC” was used as a slur by the committee’s opponents. We should’ve revived the committee as soon as we won back Congress.