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Native American Governor wants to rename a battlefield - typical revisionism by ethnic minorities
Washita ^
Posted on 05/25/2007 4:30:11 PM PDT by drzz
Governor Darrell Flyingman of the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma put things in realistic perspective when he arose to speak. He talked about the thousands of acres of land either ceded or stolen by hook and crook from the people of his nation over the years (in Oklahoma). He said, "I consider this to be a site of a massacre (Washita battlefield, OH) and not a battlefield as it is named and I will do everything within my power to see that the site is renamed as the Washita Massacre rather than Battlefield. Gov. Flyingman said that he felt great sorrow for the friends and family members of the massacre at Virginia Tech, but he was sad the television reporters kept referring to this tragedy as the worst massacre in American history. "The massacre of American Indians at Washita, Sand Creek and Wounded Knee were just as horrible and many more died at each massacre site as what happened at Virginia Tech, but I suppose the fact that it was 'just Indians' being slaughtered meant that it was not a part of American history," he said.
Source : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-giago/honoring-those-who-died-a_b_46519.html
Typical rewriting of history by Native Americans. For those who haven't watched the videos about what really happened at Washita, see the link.
Your history is threatened by the blame-America-first crowd.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 1868; aim; americanindians; arapaho; cheyenne; cheyennes; custer; disbandthetribes; ethnic; history; indians; indianswars; indianwars; legacy; native; nativeamericans; washita
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:30:12 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: drzz
probably was a massacre, I think it should be changed, and I’m not part of the AIM group But it was a sad chapter of history. Maybe they will let some of the places massacres took place of settlers build a monument as well?
To: rovenstinez
It wasn’t a massacre at all.
Historian Jerome Greene wrote a book about the encounter in 2004, for the National Park Service. He concluded: “Soldiers evidently took measures to protect the women and children.” (Washita 1868, Norman, University of Oklahoma Press, p. 189.)
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:38:05 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: drzz
Why is there a graphic of a red dude wearing bunny ears?
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:38:43 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
To: rovenstinez
“Maybe they will let some of the places massacres took place of settlers build a monument as well?”
You’re dreaming. They invent false massacres (every attack by the army is condemned) and hide what they’ve done. Bad bad whites, that’s their credo.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:39:15 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: drzz
I think he’s full of Washita, if you know what I mean.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:40:09 PM PDT
by
Tanniker Smith
(I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
To: Redcloak
Two fingers. Communist-like sticker.
The AIM was the Black Panthers. They abducted and murdered two FBI agents in 1970 (to remember the real massacre of Wounded Knee) and, now, they are making a cultural war to blame America first, to bash the US military, to whitewash what the tribes did and to ask for “cultural centers” and millions of “sorry” by the US citizens.
It’s called ethnic minority lobbying.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:41:18 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: drzz
Wasn't this the massacre (battle?)that Custer brought the band to and had it play Garry Owen as it attacked the village in the a.m.? Most of the casualties were women, children and old men? Some battle.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:42:31 PM PDT
by
Bringbackthedraft
(Time to get your election bumper sticker ready. "Impeach Hillary 09".)
To: Tanniker Smith
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:42:45 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: Bringbackthedraft
In fact, this is Little Big Man, not the actual event.
Little Big Man was an anti-US movie to condemn “US atrocities” and so on in Vietnam. Custer’s battle was totally changed.
Real casualties : 120 warriors and 13 warchiefs killed, 30 civilians killed, 23 US soldiers.
But, of course, some people said that the Cheyennes were peaceful, that warriors were women etc. Just like they say that Iraqis are old men when they blow up a Humwee.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:46:34 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: All
THE BATTLE OF THE WASHITA Gregory F. Michno, ENCYCLOPEDIA of Indian Wars 1850-1890, from pages 226-227 Washita River on 12 November, 11 companies of the 7th Cavalry under Lt. Col. George A. Custer, 3 companies of the 3rd Infantry, 1 of the 5th Infantry, 1 of the 38th Infantry, and about 450 wagons set out from Fort Dodgefor Indian territory to seek out hostile Indians. Across a snow-covered landscape Custer followed Indian trails to a 50-lodge Cheyenne village on the banks of the Washita River. Early on the frigid morning of 27 November, nearly 700 men of the 7th Cavalryprepared to attack. To the tune of "Garry Owen", Custer charged into the village with his four battalions: Maj. Joel Elliot with Companies G, H and M came in from the northeast; Capt. William Thompson with Companies B and F, from the south; Lt. John M. Johnson with E and I attacked from the southwest; and Custer with A, C, D and K, from the west. The troops burst into the village, cutting down the Indians as they fled their lodges. The soldiers were also hit: one captain was killed by a bullet in the chest, and another was severely wounded in the abdomen. Maj. Elliot cut loose with 18 men of various companies to chase some Indianswho had escaped to the east, reportedly calling out, "Here goes for a brevet or a coffin". Elliot was cut off and his party killed. During the battle, the Cheyennes killed two of four white captives. It is uncertain whether Custer was able to rescue the other two. After soldiers killed Chiefs Black Kettle and Little Rock, Custer captured the camp, burned tipis and supplies, and shot 875 Indian ponies. As more Indians gathered from other camps downriver, Custer made a feint downstream, sending them back to protect their villages. Doubling back in the gathering darkness, Custer returned to his supply train and headed home, reaching Camp supply on 1 December. Custer captured 53 women and children during the mission and reported 103 Indians killed, though the Cheyennes claimed it was half that number. The army lost 21, with 16 wounded. Indian prisoners told Interpreter Dick Curtis that 13 of their warchiefs had been killed.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:51:07 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: rovenstinez
Just like the Japanese have never apologized for any of the many atrocities of WW II, yet, want us to apologize for dropping the A bomb on them, the United States Government, to apologize for any of their screw ups, like massacres, is like pulling teeth. Why can’t they just say, Yes, we did that and we know it was wrong and we are sorry about it. At Sand Creek, some of the troopers cut out the women’s vagina's and made hat bands out of them. Come on, as an Indian myself, I don’t want the country back but I hate all the Indian bashing and a lot of it here on FR. The only recourse we have it to take all your money at one of our Casinos. And even there, where we are successful, we get a bashing. I guess we should have stayed drunk and in the gutter to make some people happy.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:55:19 PM PDT
by
fish hawk
(The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
To: fish hawk
Hey, Sand Creek is a true massacre.
Washita is NOT. That’s the difference.
It’s not Indian-bashing if I point out that some Native Americans actually wants to rewrite history in the NA favor.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:58:49 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: drzz
Let me just say as an Indian, that AIM is a bad outfit. They are the Al Queda of the Indian movement. A bunch of bad ass radicals that are not liked by many of their own people. Of course if they read this they would call me an “Apple”, red on the outside but white on the inside. By the way, Leonard Pelteir is in prison for life for the death of those two FBI agents.
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posted on
05/25/2007 4:59:34 PM PDT
by
fish hawk
(The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
To: drzz
So, will the battle of bull-run become cow-walking?
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posted on
05/25/2007 5:03:13 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: Old Professer
The CW battlefield have an enormous problem of survival, and now Indian battlefield become the center of Native American revisionism. Bad days for US history.
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posted on
05/25/2007 5:16:42 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: fish hawk
Peltier is depicted as an angel by all the leftists of the planet. I don’t know the whole affair, but it’s suspect. If the leftists love him, he should have been a real asshole.
Someone told me that Indians said : “The AIM is assholes with mocassins”
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posted on
05/25/2007 5:18:11 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: fish hawk
“Of course if they read this they would call me an Apple, red on the outside but white on the inside”
hehehe and who’s the worm ?
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posted on
05/25/2007 5:18:52 PM PDT
by
drzz
To: Old Professer
“probably was a massacre”
“It was not a massacre”
This clearly shows the problems with “multicuralism”. For the most part things of this nature are a matter of perspective. Just like the more recent attempts to make Christopher Columbus out to be some sort of evil genocidal land grabber.
Can’t wait to see how much our history changes as we march forward with our massive immigration policy. Let’s face it America sucks, is an evil empire and “whitey”, the white man or the Anglos are the scourge of the earth. At least that is what our history will show in about another 50 years or so.
To: Altura Ct.
You’re right.
At Washita, the Cheyennes came back into camp after having massacred hundreds of White civilians, and when the army eventually attacked their base, they said: it’s our village, how dare can you attack our homes ?
It’s like the Talibans or the Palestinians hiding themselves in churches, mosques or homes and then complaining about being attacked.
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posted on
05/25/2007 5:22:06 PM PDT
by
drzz
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