Posted on 05/25/2007 4:30:11 PM PDT by drzz
Response: All of those presently allowed to govern, either formally or informally, did not belong to our pre 1960's society. They are now in charge. Why is it suprising that the people now allowed to be in charge want to suppress the fact that they were once non-entities? Haven't you noticed over the years the renaming of streets and boulevards after trash? Parenthetically, It is the fate of all conquered people to have the conquerors rename various places. Hopefully, this simple fact may eventually register. Unless people wish to act like men get used to it.
Fifty years ago, there was still a great deal of prejudice against Indians. Since my Father was white, I don’t look Indian, although my sister does (she is as dark as a full blood) and my mother tried to keep her out of the sun because in summer she looked even darker. As a matter of fact, however, my mother;s nation has consisted mainly of mixed bloods since before removal. and I look, except for height, much like my grandfather’s first cousin. In any case, I weas raised as a white, and so AM white. Genes are funny. Of all my children, one is dark enough to pass as Indian, the others, not at all.
***What, then, would cause modern whites to claim false bloodlines?***
$$$$$$$$$. That’s what. In my wife’s family many in the family were ashamed to claim Indian blood and refused to sign up for the rolls. Now they are fighting to get on the rolls!
I can't believe the number of people still in the dark when it comes to the Truth.
WASHITA WAS DEFINITELY A COLD-HEARTED MASSACRE.
“Almost four years later to the day [of the Sand Creek Massacre], on November 27, 1868, the 7th Regiment of United State Cavalry, commanded by Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer, attacked Black Kettle's band again, but this time while the village was camped on the Washita River in Indian Territory, now the state of Oklahoma. The village was about 100 miles from Fort Cobb. Black Kettle and Little Robe had just returned from that fort the day before following a meeting with Colonel W.B. Hazen in an attempt to surrender. However, Hazen refused to accept their surrender… Immediately following the chiefs’ return to their band, Sheridan's troops, under the command of Custer, charged the Cheyenne village at dawn, killing more than a hundred men, women and children of the tribe, including Chiefs Black Kettle and Little Rock. The village was burned and 800 of the Indian horses shot.” (Hoig, 1976)
[Quote by Evan S. Connell, inserted by JS Dill:
“THE FIGHT IN THE VILLAGE ONLY LASTED A FEW MINUTES
[now that’s what you call a massacre], although several hours were required to finish off isolated warriors who hid in gullies and underbrush. Custer's tally listed 103 fighting men killed. IN TRUTH, ONLY 11 could be so classified [fighting men]... THE OTHER 92 WERE SQUAWS, CHILDREN, OLD MEN. A New York Tribune story by an unidentified witness compared the devastated camp to a slaughter pen littered with the bodies of animal and Indians smeared with mud, lying one on top of another in holes and ditches. It sounds as though Black Kettle's [Washita] camp lay in the path of Ghengis Khan.
“Custer [then] turned to the herd of mules and ponies. Officers and scouts were allowed to keep any they wanted… Custer next detailed Lt. Godfrey with four companies to kill the remaining animals because he did not want the Cheyennes to recover them and it would have been difficult or impossible to drive such a herd.
Godfrey's executioners at first tried to cut their throats, but this turned out to be increasingly difficult because they [the horses] could not abide the odor of white men and struggled desperately whenever a soldier approached.
After a while, says Godfrey, his men were getting tired, so he sent for reinforcements and the creatures were shot. Even with extra men it took some time because there were about eight hundred ponies and mules, and when the job was done the snowy Oklahoma field bloomed with dark flowers.”
The U.S. Army had 11 companies, about 550 soldiers, stationed in Florida. Fort King had only one company of soldiers, and it was feared that they might be overrun by the Seminoles. There were three companies at Fort Brooke, with another two expected momentarily, so it was decided to send two companies to Fort King. On December 23, 1835 the two companies, totalling 108 men, left Fort Brooke under the command of Maj. Francis L. Dade. Seminoles shadowed the marching soldiers for five days. On December 28 the Seminoles ambushed the soldiers, and wiped out the command. Only three men survived the massacre, and one, Edwin De Courcey, was hunted down and killed by a Seminole the next day. Two survivors, Ransome Clarke and Joseph Sprague, returned to Fort Brooke. Only Clarke, who died of his wounds a few years later, left any account of the battle from the Army's perspective. Joseph Sprague was unharmed and lived quite a while longer, but was not able to give an account of the battle because he had sought immediate refuge in a nearby pond. The Seminoles lost just three men, with five wounded.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that it was the Seminoles who won this fight.
AIM was not the Black Panther nor was the organization created to get even over the Wounded Knee Massacre. They were called to Pine Ridge because they were being violated by their own person in power as well as by US Police.
Where did you get “kidnapping” from?
If you are interested in knowing the facts of the matter; educate yourself by watching the videos “Incident at Oglala” Part 1 and 2 :
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=incident+pine+ridge&hl=en&sitesearch=video.google.com
I am 1/8 Lakota Souix and while I am sure I had relatives die at Wounded Knee, I know it was in the past and anyone who had any memory of it has long since died, and virtually anyone with a second hand account has probably died.
This was just shared with me by a friend and would like to share here:
WASHITA
On November 27, 1868 Custer’s Osage Nation scouts located the trail of an Indian war party. Custer followed this trail all day without break until nightfall. Upon nightfall there was a short period of rest until there was sufficient moonlight to continue. Eventually they reached Black Kettle’s village.
Custer divided his force into four parts, each moving into position so that at first daylight they could all simultaneously converge on the village. At daybreak the columns attacked, just as Double Wolf awoke and fired his gun to alert the village; he was among the first to die in the charge. The Indian warriors quickly left their lodges to take cover behind trees and in deep ravines. Custer was able to take control of the village quickly, but it took longer to quell all remaining resistance.
Black Kettle and his wife, Medicine Woman Later, died while fleeing on a pony, shot in the back.Following the capture of Black Kettle’s village Custer was soon to find himself in a precarious position. As the fighting was beginning to subside Custer began to notice large groups of mounted Indians gathering on nearby hilltops. He quickly learned that Black Kettle’s village was only one of the many Indian villages encamped along the river. Fearing an attack he ordered some of his men to take defensive positions while the others were to gather the Indian belongings and horses. What the Americans did not want or could not carry, they destroyed (including about 675 ponies and horses, 200 horses being given to the prisoners).
Prior to the battle, Custer had ordered his men take off their greatcoats so they would have greater maneuverability. Rations were also apparently left behind. Custer left a small guard with the coats and rations but the Indian attackers were too numerous and the guard fled, but Indians from the downstream villages who came up to relieve Black Kettle’s village were able to capture them.
General Custer’s command marching to attack the Cheyenne village.Custer feared the outlying Indians would find and attack his supply train so near nightfall he began marching toward the other Indian encampments. Seeing that Custer was approaching their villages the surrounding Indians retreated to protect their families from a fate similar to that of Black Kettle’s village. At this point Custer turned around and began heading back towards his supply train, which he eventually reached. Thus the Battle of Washita was concluded.
In his first report of the battle to Gen. Sheridan on November 28, 1868, Custer reported that by “actual and careful examination after the battle,” the bodies of 103 warriors were found — a figure echoed by Sheridan when from Camp Supply he relayed news of the Washita fight to Bvt. Maj. Gen. W.A. Nichols the following day.
In fact, no battlefield count of the dead was made. Rather, Custer’s count was based on consultations with his officers on the evening of the day following the battle, after the soldiers made camp during their march back to Camp Supply.Cheyenne and other Indian estimates of the Indian casualties at the Washita, as well as estimates by Custer’s civilian scouts, are much lower.
According to a modern account by the U.S. Army Center of Military History, the 7th Cavalry lost 21 officers and men killed and 13 wounded in the Battle of the Washita, with the Indians losing perhaps 50 killed and as many wounded. Most of the soldiers killed were part of a small detachment led by Major Joel Elliott, who was among the dead, and who had apparently separated from the three companes he led to pursue an escaping group.Custer’s abrupt withdrawal without determining the fate of Elliott and the missing troopers further darkened Custer’s reputation among his professional peers and caused deep resentment within the 7th Cavalry that never healed.
Aftermath
White reaction
From the beginning of December 1868 the nature of the attack began to be debated in the press, in the December 9 Leavenworth Evening Bulletin, a story mentioned that: “Gen. S. Sandford and Tappan, and Col. Taylor of the Indian Peace Commission, unite in the opinion that the late battle with the Indians was simply an attack upon peaceful bands, which were on the march to their new reservations”.
The December 14 New York Tribune made the following comment: “Col. Wynkoop, agent for the Cheyenne and Arapahos Indians, has published his letter of resignation. He regards Gen. Custer’s late fight as simply a massacre, and says that Black Kettle and his band, friendly Indians, were, when attacked, on their way to their reservation”.
The scout James S. Morrison wrote Indian Agent Col. Wynkoop that twice as many women and children as warriors had been killed during the attack. The Fort Cobb Indian trader William Griffenstein told Lt. Col. Custer, the 7th U.S. Cavalry had attacked friendly Indians on the Washita, resulting in General Phillip Sheridan ordering Griffenstein out of Indian Territory, threatening to hang him if he returned.
The New York Times published a letter describing Custer as taking “sadistic pleasure in slaughtering the Indian ponies and dogs” and alluded to killing innocent women and children.
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