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Romney Supports Tolerance for Gays, But Not Public Servants Who Speak Against Homosexuality
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | May 25, 2007 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 05/26/2007 10:46:29 AM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

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To: robertpaulsen
I don't think they are. The act is immoral, not simply the desire.

You are splitting hairs. Using the term "Homosexuality" implies more than the desire. It implies the act. It is not homosexuality unless it occurs. Your line of reasoning reminds me of Bill Clinton supporters who tried to dismiss his trysts with Moanica Lewinsky by telling people they should separate the man from his character. That is absolutely ludicrous. A person's character is the core of his or her being. They are inseparable.
21 posted on 05/26/2007 11:31:20 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

The military allows lesbians and homosexuals in their number as long as they keep it to themselves. The military does not allow homosexual advocacy or flagrant homosexual acts. Nor, for that matter, does it allow flagrant adultery or flagrant sexual relations between officers and people working under them.

Let’s make a distinction between homosexuals and gay advocates, who publicly profess their sexuality and insist that everyone should approve of sodomy, on pain of being punished by the law.

Where does Romney stand? I think the record shows that he has appointed public homosexual advocates to important positions, and does not oppose the gay political agenda.

I personally in the past have hired homosexuals and lesbians, because they were most qualified for the job, but I preferred that they should keep their gender preferences to themselves and their private lives. Unfortunately, that is getting more and more difficult these days.

Military people are supposed to keep their ideologies to themselves. Ironically, General Pace was bashed by the liberals because that is his policy for homosexuals in the military. And it is his policy because it has been national policy, ever since CLINTON put the “don’t ask, don’t tell” rule through congress.


22 posted on 05/26/2007 11:31:50 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: oakcon
have to disagree there. People can’t really change their orientation, especially if they were born that way, we don’t know enough yet to tell for sure. However practicing homosexuality is far different.

I'm not addressing or disputing if homosexuality is inherent or learned as that is not the point of the discussion. The issue is one of semantics if homosexuality is different from "practicing" homosexuality.

And Romney just fell astronomically in my opinion.

I agree.
23 posted on 05/26/2007 11:38:33 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
This guy is just a bryl-cream commercial.

***NO CORE CONVICTION ALERT***
24 posted on 05/26/2007 11:38:59 AM PDT by farmer18th
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To: Sleeping Beauty

This article is biased from beginning to end. Mr. Peter J. Smith seems to have an agenda!

first, what romney said about Gen. Pace was exactly what Pace himself said when he expressed regret, etc.. “I should have focused more on my support of the policy and less on my personal moral views.”

second, the charge that romney funded the homosexual agenda proves that mr. smith still has a lot to learn about the makings of a effective hit piece. He didnt even bother to present boston globe articles as “sources” to back his outlandish claims.


25 posted on 05/26/2007 11:39:19 AM PDT by TexanSniper
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To: All

When Romney was running the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, under pressure from homosexual groups, he removed the Boy Scouts from participation in pre-Olympic activities.

The same Mitt Romney who was once on the executive council of the Boy Scouts.

When push comes to shove....Romney is pro-homosexual.

I am surprised that this is not mentioned more. My biggest problem with Romney is his extreme liberalism

Except for Tancredo and Hunter...there really isnt a true conservative for the GOP nomination.


26 posted on 05/26/2007 11:44:19 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
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To: Man50D
"Using the term "Homosexuality" implies more than the desire. It implies the act."

I always thought homosexuality was same-sex attraction. That you can be a homosexual even if you've never acted on it.

Anyways, General Pace was condemning the homosexual act as immoral, not the person.

27 posted on 05/26/2007 11:44:53 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Sleeping Beauty; TommyDale; big'ol_freeper; The Ghost of FReepers Past; television is just wrong; ..
"I think people are entitled to believe what they want to believe, but what they say in their official and secular roles should be an expression of tolerance and respect for people regardless of our differences,” Romney then said.

Wrong. What folks express in their official roles should be whatever their views are re what's pertinent to their work. Pace was both correct (you know...because he agrees with Me.)and entitled to express whatever views he had on the subject(even if they had been so misguided as to not agree with Me). The effects of morality and immorality tend to be relevant to all sorts of public and other institutional functions. Immorality thrives in a climate of cowed silence.

Romney's difficulty here seems to be that he's not merely "not anti-gay", as he puts it. He's apparently 'anti-anti-gay', .... and in logic two negatives equals...?

28 posted on 05/26/2007 11:46:48 AM PDT by ProCivitas (Qui bono? Quo warranto? (Who benefits? By what authority?))
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To: ProCivitas

I agree.


29 posted on 05/26/2007 11:48:52 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Beagle8U

I’m almost afraid to ask but what is a pickle puffer?

I have never heard that before.


30 posted on 05/26/2007 11:56:56 AM PDT by JRochelle (Just say no to the slick crazy bully.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Officials running for public office should not discuss personal beliefs about morality says Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney

I wonder how Romney defines a "personal belief". Are beliefs based on Biblical laws personal, religious, or traditional moral beliefs?

Which of the following are "personal" beliefs:


31 posted on 05/26/2007 11:58:05 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Go easy on Romney. Give him a few days, odds are he will change his position.


32 posted on 05/26/2007 12:00:21 PM PDT by JRochelle (Just say no to the slick crazy bully.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
First, I don't entirely trust some of these "life" groups. While I mostly agree with their desire to make abortion illegal, many of them seem to have fallen in love with the idea of having power. While I lean pretty far to the right on many issues, I have no desire to put people under my power and don't trust those who have a strong desire to put people under their power.

In this specific case, I think their headline is misleading. Mr. Romney has supported homosexuals for certain public offices, and the commentary gives no evidence to suggest that he was appointing them as homosexual figureheads as opposed to qualified people who happened to be homosexual. Spinning the story that way seems to be more of a tactic to turn conservatives against Mr. Romney than to report his actions and words accurately. The sub-headline talked about General Pace, but the commentary had only one or two of twelve paragraphs that addressed General Pace specifically. If they wanted to report on Mr. Romney's comments about General Pace, they should have explored the whole controversy in detail. In the article on the website, they give links to other commentaries about Governor Romney, but none of those links are specifically about what General Pace said.

I didn't look closely at what General Pace said or the context in which he spoke back then. I remember that there was controversy, and I generally felt that the controversy didn't do anything to advance the conservative agenda. I think one can criticize the context, timing, and tone of a statement without necessarily being against the idea that was expressed. I'm open to the possibility that Mr. Romney was trying to criticize these things only and that his criticism is being spun by this group.

I admit to being concerned about these kinds of statements from Mr. Romney. He's not my ideal candidate, and if I lived in New Hampshire, I doubt that I'd be voting for him in the primary. On the other hand, I wouldn't make insulting homosexuals a part of my campaign if I ran for office. Maybe some of these "life" people would interpret my stance as my being "pro-gay," so I remain willing to give Mr. Romney some benefit of doubt.

Bill

33 posted on 05/26/2007 12:01:11 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: David_G_Burnet
I really doubt I'll be voting for anybody other than a third party candidate this year.

If the Republican party can't put out candidates who embody truly conservative viewpoints or base their positions on the good of the country and not what will get them votes, the candidates should be punished with people like Freepers refusing to vote for the "lesser of two evils."

Slowly, the bipartisanship is waning.
34 posted on 05/26/2007 12:01:16 PM PDT by justt bloomin ("Political correctness is really the only form of hate speech." Mike Adams, UNC-W)
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To: ProCivitas

So you think that it’s the job of government officials to give morality lessons and tell the citizenry how they should live their lives. Interesting.


35 posted on 05/26/2007 12:05:42 PM PDT by TexanSniper
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To: Cicero

I don’t think it will be possible to make clean distinctions between “gay advocates” and non-evangelizing homosexuals if we don’t formulate a clear, and public, moral consensus. The historic, western position has been that homosexuality represents a reprehensible and deeply shameful behavior. If we remove our politically correct lenses, we have to admit that it also represents a health hazard, unless people really believe they can exchange fecal matter (anal sodomy) without getting sick. The historic taboos were there for a reason and the natural revulsion normal people feel for the lifestyle should not be undone by “statesmen” who can’t bring themselves to call sin sin.


36 posted on 05/26/2007 12:05:59 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: WFTR

“Spinning the story that way seems to be more of a tactic to turn conservatives against Mr. Romney than to report his actions and words accurately.”

BINGO!


37 posted on 05/26/2007 12:08:26 PM PDT by TexanSniper
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To: TexanSniper

Well Texansniper, are there any moral topics pertinent to their work that you’d like to ban folks from discussing? If so why?


38 posted on 05/26/2007 12:11:27 PM PDT by ProCivitas (Qui bono? Quo warranto? (Who benefits? By what authority?))
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To: Sleeping Beauty

This destroys any chance of Romney coming off as a Conservative. I appreciate his honesty, but the politically smart thing to do.


39 posted on 05/26/2007 12:11:36 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 ($5,000 for a piece of American Sovereignty)
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To: ProCivitas

Where are Romney’s religious convictions? I know his church teaches otherwise.


40 posted on 05/26/2007 12:13:01 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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