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U.S. and Iran Talk After 27 Years
ABC News ^

Posted on 05/27/2007 4:21:10 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

U.S. and Iran Talk After 27 Years It Will Be the First Public, One-On-One Meeting Since 1979 By JOHN HENDREN

May 27, 2007 —

When U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker sits down for a one-on-one meeting with his Iranian counterpart, Hassan Gazemi Ghomi, Monday  marking the first time in 27 years since both sides have talked  there's one thing everyone agrees on: It's going to be contentious.

The Americans plan to start the historic two-hour meeting in Baghdad's Green Zone by laying down a list of grievances, saying Iran supports Shiite militias in their effort to consolidate power, and arms Sunni militias that target Americans with powerful roadside bombs  explosive force penetrators  that can blow a hole through an Abrams tank.

The Americans say they have proof.

"The evidence that we have is that ... we have in detention now, people that we have captured that, in fact, are Sunni extremist-related that have, in fact, received both some funding and training from the Iranian intelligence service, the Quds Force," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, told CNN's "Late Edition."

Iranian diplomats intend to do some finger-pointing of their own, saying the United States has failed to fulfill its obligation as an occupying force under international law, to secure Iraq and gives undue influence to what Iran calls "Baathist" Sunni political factions.

Iran's Supreme Leader, Mullah Khamaneie, told Iran's state-run news agency, IRNA, that the meetings are not negotiations at all. Other Iranian officials followed suit.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad79
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1 posted on 05/27/2007 4:21:12 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

A noble effort but, I predict, completely pointless. Iran will use this as an opportunity to lead the world’s most powerful country around by the nose. Nothing of note will be accomplished.


2 posted on 05/27/2007 4:29:53 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Sub-Driver
The press thinks that simply sitting down to talk is somehow a victory in and of itself.

The fact that the two sides are talking publicly since breaking off relations after Iran's 1979 revolution, is a historic achievement in itself, even if the two sides share little common ground.

3 posted on 05/27/2007 4:31:53 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Sub-Driver

I have a few words for them.......payback is a biotch.


4 posted on 05/27/2007 4:34:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"There has been a theme of humiliation in the press," said Michael Rubin, an Iran expert at the American Enterprise Institute. "The talks are an indication of how much the U.S. has lost" in Iraq.

Nothing good will come from this.

5 posted on 05/27/2007 4:35:47 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Zack Nguyen

One only hopes Crocker vs Ghomi ends in the first round with Crocker slapping Ghomi with his shoe!!!


6 posted on 05/27/2007 4:36:50 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Actually, I'm one of those annoying people who always believe that we'll never take Iran on, because the politics at home prevent it.

But...the fact that we're talking to them makes me wonder if Bush has even more cojones than I thought...and politics be damned with him.

Why?

Because you can only hit Iran if you've talked to them directly first.

7 posted on 05/27/2007 4:38:07 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Sub-Driver

Now that we are talking, all of this tension will be alleviated, and peace and goodwill will blossom.


8 posted on 05/27/2007 4:42:59 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver

At this first illustrious ‘meeting’, I say place the entire Iranian delegation under arrest, blindfold the SOBs, march them under guard to an ‘undisclosed location’, force them to listen to ‘God Bless America’ 20 hours a day, make them smell the delicious aroma of Virginia-baked ham and bacon sizzling in a pan, and limit their TV viewing to ‘the very best sermons of Reverend Jerry Falwell’.

Tell Tehran we’ll think about perhaps ‘negotiating’ the release of our esteemed guests after say,,,,444 days?

How’s that for starters? :)


9 posted on 05/27/2007 5:06:26 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: mkjessup
How’s that for starters? :)

I like it...for starters.

10 posted on 05/27/2007 5:27:18 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: Brilliant

SSDD


11 posted on 05/27/2007 5:46:14 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Sub-Driver

12 posted on 05/27/2007 5:50:06 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist 11/5/79)
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To: Brilliant
Now that we are talking, all of this tension will be alleviated, and peace and goodwill will blossom.

dOOd, you don't know an RPG from a bong... :-)

(FULL DISCLOSURE: I shamelessly ripped off this graphic from a "doug from upland" post...)

13 posted on 05/27/2007 6:04:49 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Zack Nguyen; All

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NEVER FORGET

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IRAN recently publically stated that:

“It’s now time for the world to start imagining a world without an America in it”

Former President CLINTON publically stated after the Attacks of 9/11 that:

“There may not even be an America around in 300 years”

And thus THE Battle for the 21st Century has been defined by both our Enemies both without ..and within.

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NEVER FORGET

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14 posted on 05/27/2007 6:36:14 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

I recommend opening with something subtle like, “Our forthcoming air strikes will vaporize your nuclear capabilities.”


15 posted on 05/27/2007 7:02:00 PM PDT by United Freeping States (A big hello to Aunt Mary Lou.)
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