That reminds me of something........ hmmmmm....... Oh, yeah!
Posted on 05/28/2007 9:33:12 AM PDT by wagglebee
The Christian attorney who fought to keep Terry Schiavo alive says the three leading GOP presidential candidates don't understand the important disability issues involved in the widely publicized 2005 case.
During a recent Republican presidential debate in California, the candidates were asked whether Congress was right to intervene in the Terry Schiavo case by attempting to prevent the state of Florida from removing the disabled woman's feeding tube. The answers varied.
Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, said he thought it "was a mistake" for Congress to get involved and the matter should have been left at the state level. Senator John McCain said Congress "probably acted too hastily." And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani called the case a "family dispute."
David Gibbs III of the Christian Law Association says the United States gives greater due process to convicted murderers than to innocent disabled people. The former attorney for Schiavo's parents argues that Congress did the right thing when it intervened to provide her those rights.
"Many of the candidates are following the political wind, if you will, instead of showing leadership and saying, 'You know what? That was good public policy back then. We need to stand up for the disabled. We need to stand up for the senior citizens,'" Gibbs says. "We need to have that compassion for vulnerable people as opposed to taking the mindset that those people that just don't matter," he notes.
It is disingenuous, the Christian attorney contends, for candidates to claim they are pro-life but not be willing to grant due process rights to the disabled. "If you're pro-life, you have to be pro-life at every step," he says.
"Please understand: our founding fathers understood that you don't have any liberty, our Constitution doesn't matter, if you don't protect the innocent life of the citizens," Gibbs explains. "That's why they talked about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness -- your free speech, your freedom of religion, your right to own a gun or [receive] due process of law," he says. "If the government can kill you, you have no true liberty."
When Rudy Giuliani visited Florida he initially said he was in favor of assisting Terry Schiavo but later backpedaled from those comments, Gibbs points out. And in the recent GOP presidential debate, he says, only Kansas Senator Sam Brownback and Congressman Duncan Hunter of California got the issue right when they were asked about the Schiavo case.
That reminds me of something........ hmmmmm....... Oh, yeah!
A sample is post #433: "This is your defense of Michael Schiavo"
Are you not partisan, sir?
I'm partisan on behalf on the medical facts. I have no affiliation with either the Schiavos or the Schindlers, but I do care about medical misstatements.<
>>...being dishonest, being a nazi, and wanting Terri Schiavo dead
That's not true.
You're right; my apologies - that was Bjs1779, your colleague, with whom you never seem to disagree.
Your post #946
You declared a board-certified neurologist to be a "charlatan" over a trivial semantic issue (whether the doctor was "recommended" or "nominated" for a Nobel Prize)
I didn't say anything like that. You really are having a bad truth day.
And you maintained you never called me dishonest?
Ok, let’s go over some of the medical evidence:
1. You have consistently maintained the bone scan was proof of domestic violence. Despite repeated requests, you have not shown a mechanism of injury by which the hot spots on the scan could translate into fractures in a domestic violence scenario without exterior marks of injury.
2. You have consistently maintained there is an injury at C4. This despite the fact her neck was x-rayed in the ER. The ony evidence you can produce is Dr. Hammesfahr’s statement that she had neck rigidity, ignoring the fact she had rigidity of many muscles in her body, a known consequence of anoxic brain damage. (I notice you still have not linked, cited, or pointed to where Dr. Maxfield supported the “C4 injury” claim you made on his behalf.)
3. You called Dr. Thogmartin’s statements about the bone scan “overruling” Dr. Walker, and insisted it was “controversial” for him to state such conclusions. You have yet to back up that it was in fact “controversial,” and that any medical organization or reputable physician found it “controversial” for him to state conclusions, including Dr. Walker. Dr. Baden, whom you praised, didn’t seem to find any problem with it. As I mentioned, this is standard procedure. If you maintain otherwise, prove it.
She woke up a nation while that very nation was turning the room she was caged in into a death trap. That was when the prez's numbers started to tank.
Our govt made for Terri a DEATH TRAP they were not entitled to make.
She was MURDERED.
Money killed Terri. Corruption wasn't investigated at the STATE LEVEL by AG CRIST and that buffoon is now our governor.
Remember the thread "Crist Let My Daughter Die". He certainly ignored her civil rights. GOVERNOR CRASS (crist).
Jeb Bush and his brother turned on America for their global/corporate vision.
Immigration bill dies today. Take that, Mr. President. Your legacy is cancelling Terri's Coast Guard helicopter and then from your ranch, ignoring Katrina victims starving and dehydrating in NOLA. Your legacy evaporated in 2005. (but for the new supremes, Bush gets no credit.) Had the current supremes been around when Terri's life was on the line, SHE WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY, IMO.
Mikey put the boat on his wish list for the time after the corrupt judges bumped Terri off because she wouldn't die cuz she wasn't hooked up to machines! The only machine was that scumbag known as HINO.
We had a visitor stop by this thread and espouse the “virtues” of killing people off.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856772/posts
Where's her rehab money go? Check out this web site for this and other truths.
OH, GIVE IT A REST!!
Give what exactly a “rest”?
In 1992, Mr. Schiavo was awarded $300,000 for loss of consortium. That was his money, not anyone else’s, for the loss he suffered because of malpractice. This is addition to any judgement for Mrs. Schiavo.
Are you saying he couldn’t buy his boat with $300,000? Are you saying that he wasted away so much of his life fighting to get what was remaining after enormous legal expenses that had to be incurred to allow Mrs. Schiavo’s wishes to be fulfilled? What do you think he had left after 15 years of legal fights and her care?
HINO was consorting all over the place. Too bad he wasn’t being tailed at the time.
The ALJ found that Dr. Hammesfahr violated section 458.331(1)(n) by charging a patient $3000 for services that she did not receive.
As usual, you trolls always try to lie about that. If you read a little further down:
"We reverse the final order of the Board disciplining Dr. Hammesfahr forfinancial exploitation of a patient in violation of section 458.331(1)(n). "
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That was the opinion of the medical examiners. It would follow if you also believed that only a clinical diagnosis can determine PVS, which they also said. Correct?
I didn't make that claim, no. You are hallucinating again. Big time.
Sorry about that post. Since it was poorly presented, I thought you were talking about me.
Do you see whiplash mentioned in these legal proceedings?
"Based on evidence presented by Dr. Hammesfahr that several of his patients had actually improved after treatment, the ALJ(Administrative Law Judge) also concluded that Dr. Hammesfahr had not engaged in false advertising concerning his treatment of strokes."
Right. Doctors that go around and testify to kill people for money is okay in your book. Not even slightly despicable as everyone can see.
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