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Russia Says New ICBM Can Beat Any System [Russia threatens the USA again.]
Associated Press by way of Forbes ^ | 29MAY07 | STEVE GUTTERMAN

Posted on 05/29/2007 10:02:22 PM PDT by familyop

Russia tested new missiles Tuesday that a Kremlin official boasted could penetrate any defense system, and President Vladimir Putin warned that U.S. plans for an anti-missile shield in Europe would turn the region into a "powder keg."

First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov said Russia tested an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple independent warheads, and it also successfully conducted a "preliminary" test of a tactical cruise missile that he said could fly farther than existing, similar weapons.

"As of today, Russia has new tactical and strategic complexes that are capable of overcoming any existing or future missile defense systems," Ivanov said, according to the ITAR-Tass news agency. "So in terms of defense and security, Russians can look calmly to the country's future."

Ivanov is a former defense minister seen as a potential Kremlin favorite to succeed Putin next year. Both he and Putin have said repeatedly that Russia would continue to improve its nuclear arsenals and respond to U.S. plans to deploy a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic - NATO nations that were in Moscow's front yard during the Cold War as Warsaw Pact members.

Russia has bristled at the plans, dismissing U.S. assertions that the system would be aimed at blocking possible attacks by Iran and saying it would destroy the strategic balance of forces in Europe.

"We consider it harmful and dangerous to turn Europe into a powder keg and to fill it with new kinds of weapons," Putin said at a news conference with visiting Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Socrates.

Russian arms control expert Alexander Pikayev said the new ICBMs appeared to be part of Russia's promised response to the missile defense plans and, more broadly, an effort to "strengthen the strategic nuclear triad - land-based, sea-based and air-based delivery systems for nuclear weapons - which suffered significant downsizing" amid financial troubles after the 1991 Soviet collapse.

The ICBM, called the RS-24, was fired from a mobile launcher at the Plesetsk launch site in northwestern Russia. Its test warhead landed on target some 3,400 miles away on the Far Eastern Kamchatka Peninsula, the Strategic Missile Forces said in a statement.

The new missile is seen as eventually replacing the aging RS-18s and RS-20s that are the backbone of the country's missile forces, the statement said. Those missiles are known in the West as the SS-19 Stiletto and the SS-18 Satan.

The RS-24 "strengthens the capability of the attack groups of the Strategic Missile Forces by surmounting anti-missile defense systems, at the same time strengthening the potential for nuclear deterrence," the statement said.

Ivanov said the missile was a new version of the Topol-M, first commissioned in 1997 and known as the SS-27 in the West, but one that that can carry multiple independent warheads, ITAR-Tass reported. Existing Topol-M missiles are capable of hitting targets more than 6,000 miles away.

Pikayev, a senior analyst at the Moscow-based Institute for World Economy and International Relations, said that little had been revealed about the missile's development, but that Russia has been seeking to improve its capability to penetrate missile defense systems and that the new missile would likely answer to that goal.

He said Russia had been working on a version of the Topol-M that could carry MIRVs - Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicles - and that its development was probably "inevitable" after the U.S. withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty in 2002 in order to develop a national missile defense.

Pikayev concurred with the missile forces' statement that the RS-24 conforms with terms laid down in the START-I treaty, which is in force, and the 2002 Moscow Treaty, which calls for reductions in each country's nuclear arsenal to 1,700-2,000 warheads.

Ivanov also announced the successful "preliminary" test of an improved tactical cruise missile designed for a mobile Iskander-M launcher, ITAR-Tass reported. Ivanov said last year that Russian ground forces would commission 60 short-range Iskander-M missiles by 2015.

While Ivanov's saber-rattling about missile defense penetration was clearly aimed at the United States - and at Russians who will vote in March for a successor to Putin - he suggested Russia's armament efforts were also aimed to counter a potential treat from the Middle East and Asia.

"We see perfectly how our eastern and southern neighbors here, there and everywhere are acquiring short and medium-range missiles," Ivanov said in televised comments at Kapustin Yar, the southern Russian site where the tactical missiles were tested.

Ivanov said the 1987 Soviet-American treaty limiting such missiles - the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty, or INF - is no longer effective because "dozens of countries - many of them along our borders - have acquired them. All of this is a real danger for us, and the consequences can be unpredictable."

He emphasized the need to equip the armed forces with "the most modern, precise weapons" and suggested Russia could arm itself with missiles whose range exceeds the lower limit of 310 miles set in the INF. The ranges of Russia's missiles are "for now within the commitments that Russia has taken upon itself, but I stress: for now," ITAR-Tass quoted him as saying.

Matthew Bunn, a senior research associate at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, said the missile test was "in line with Russia's renewed emphasis in recent years of maintaining their weapons systems after years of decline."

Bunn said he did not think the Russians had planned the test as a reaction to U.S. plans to deploy the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, although they may have worded Tuesday's announcement to make it appear that way.

"I think if anything, the wording of the announcement may have been changed to emphasize the missile's ability to evade defense systems, but the test was probably planned way before," Bunn said.

Andrew Kuchins, director of the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the test was Russia's way of showing the U.S. and its own people that it was investing more in national security.

"The Russians have been talking about developing and testing new weapons for years now, so this isn't a surprise. They have a very aging nuclear missile structure and this test fits in with a broader trend of upgrading security," said Kuchins.

"After years of spending little on their military, they're now showing us and showing the Russian population that they're paying more attention to defense."

Russia is also embroiled in a dispute with the West over another Soviet-era arms pact, the 1990 Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty.

Putin has announced a moratorium on observance of the treaty and threatened to withdraw altogether if the United States and other NATO members do not ratify an 1999 amended version.

Russia said Monday that it lodged a formal request for a conference among treaty signatories in Vienna next week.

Associated Press Writer Lily Hindy in New York contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; kremlin; nuclear; proliferation; russian; sovietunion; ussr; weapons
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1 posted on 05/29/2007 10:02:23 PM PDT by familyop
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To: M. Espinola

Ping.

It’s going to get really interesting, after Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria have nuclear weapons mounted. Every enemy on the planet reacting to the smell of weakness by building up and issuing threats against us along the way.


2 posted on 05/29/2007 10:04:09 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: familyop
Putin warned that U.S. plans for an anti-missile shield in Europe would turn the region into a "powder keg."

So why would he worry about our missle defense if he's got a missle that can penetrate our missle defense? Answer: cause he ain't got squat. Typical ruskie ploy.

3 posted on 05/29/2007 10:04:22 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: familyop

Some rooskie friends! even though they know (or say they know) they can melt Europe themselves, they don’t want to see Europe Iranproofed.


4 posted on 05/29/2007 10:04:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: familyop
Russia has bristled at the plans, dismissing U.S. assertions that the system would be aimed at blocking possible attacks by Iran and saying it would destroy the strategic balance of forces in Europe.

Oh, but doesn't aiding Iran's nuclear weapons program destroy the strategic balance in Europe too?

5 posted on 05/29/2007 10:07:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: familyop

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


6 posted on 05/29/2007 10:10:25 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: familyop
OK, here is my guess. We have missile defense technology that we are keeping secret. We don’t use antimissile but some kind of lasers that can shoot enemy missiles on take off. This is what happened with the two NK missile test “failures.”

I also suspect that the US SDI test last week that supposedly failed because the mock enemy missile shot from Alaska didn’t gain altitude was really a successful knock down with the real defense shield.

What do you think? Any of you know about this too?

7 posted on 05/29/2007 10:14:36 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: LouAvul
So why would he worry about our missile defense if he's got a missle that can penetrate our missle defense? Answer: cause he ain't got squat.

Yep. The Russians, very much like Arabs/Muslims, react emotionally and with phony machismo when they're holding a weak hand. ......and it invariably reveals a glaring inconsistency in their position, as you pointed out.

8 posted on 05/29/2007 10:21:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: garjog
OK, here is my guess. We have missile defense technology that we are keeping secret. What do you think?

I used to think we had super secret alien technology we would use if we went to war with the Soviets, and pop-up missiles around the Pentagon, and other buildings in Washington, to prevent what happened on 9/11. I also thought we had real leadership in that G-dforsaken town, and a Conservative President in office who, when asked about rebuilding KKKlinton's military would tell us "Help is on the way." But I was wrong. "I looked into rooty tooty fresh and pooty's eyes, and I saw a good man..."

9 posted on 05/29/2007 10:23:17 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation)
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To: garjog

Interesting supposition. .....and plausible.


10 posted on 05/29/2007 10:24:00 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: familyop

Our new weapon can beat any system

...except capitalism, free markets, free press, rule of law, free elections, private gun ownership, Chuck Norris, etc.

11 posted on 05/29/2007 10:28:17 PM PDT by MilesVeritatis (War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...." - John Stuart Mill)
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To: familyop

Iran is Russia’s finger puppet. We have to do what is right, and stay strong no matter what.


12 posted on 05/29/2007 10:28:40 PM PDT by Tax Government (democRats: America's very own criminal Baaaa...Baaaath party.)
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To: Captainpaintball
and I saw a good man...

brought down by bad vodka...

13 posted on 05/29/2007 10:29:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Tax Government

Israel handed back Russian puppets their broken fingers 40 years ago. Crazy Rooskie think he can do better against America???


14 posted on 05/29/2007 10:31:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Tax Government

“We have to do what is right, and stay strong no matter what.”

How can that be possible when we are about to become a third world nation if the immigration bill is passed?


15 posted on 05/29/2007 10:33:30 PM PDT by 353FMG (Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
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To: familyop

I guess this means that the nuclear arms reduction treaty is null and void, not that is was worth the paper it was written on in the first place.

Yes, our enemies do smell our weakness, but they need not attack us, all they have to do is sit back and watch the Democrats and all the leftwing moonbats that cling to them destroy us from within.


16 posted on 05/29/2007 10:36:14 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: garjog
It's wonderful to fantasize over 'top secret' black programs of super invincible technology. It's pretty difficult to believe that a nation so schizophrenic as to be currently 'negotiating' with Iran over Iraq 'security' has the brains or balls to initiate such programs.

Fun fantasy, though...

17 posted on 05/29/2007 10:38:34 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: garjog; M. Espinola
Complacency on N. Korea will work against us. N. Korea fired her missiles where she wanted them to land in both recent tests, and she fired a small, tactical nuke in a facility designed by Russia for concealment of fallout.

But we have three layers of anti-ballistic missile defense (all tested "go" in most firings) operational and a laser defense system successfully tested but not yet in production. We simply need to start producing more anti-ballistic missile defense batteries. It's a numbers problem. The more we have before an enemy missile attack, the better our chances will be when attacked.

Here's an interesting recent report on an enemy missile test. They'll easily reach London or the Vatican.

S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range)

But most people who are living easy lives don't want to see any big changes in the way we live--even for our survival in the near future. They believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts and refuse to nominate "hawkish" candidates with defense experience. They prefer celebrities who have no such experience in hopes that we'll continue to bury our prideful heads in television fantasies.


18 posted on 05/29/2007 10:39:10 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wouldn’t want to be a Russian arms salesman, who’d missed a flight — say from Damascus, after the Bekaa Valley turkey shoot.


19 posted on 05/29/2007 10:41:02 PM PDT by dighton
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To: familyop

Hmmm, time to break out the old Dr. Strangeglove video again.


20 posted on 05/29/2007 10:42:24 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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