Immigration Deal Would Grant Amnesty to Parents, Spouses and Children of Z-Visa holder

Red State ^ | about May 17 2007 | Red state

[mass55th]

Since this Bill is supposed to "fix" the problems with the 1984 Amnesty Bill, I'm glad I won't be around in 25-30 years when they have to pass another immigration Bill to "fix" this one.

This morning I called the White House, Hillary Rotten Crotch's office, along with Chucky Schmucky Schumer's office and my local Dem Congressman's office and voiced my objections. Not that it will matter, but at least I had my say.

[gr8eman]

Second cousin twice removed from the barrio!

[Red Badger]

I never understood the “twice removed” stuff...........

[tumblindice]

” . . . an immigration proposal that could be announced later today or tomorrow.” 1965 1986 2007
Get ready to be hosed fellow serfs: the pezzonovantes’ hired hands are almost ready with the douche-nozzle . . . just gotta load the bag ...
OK! Drop your linen & stop that grinnin’ boys & girls:
hands on knees, heads up, hold your breath aaaand-—BOHICA!

[beckaz]

And what about the TEMPORARY workers who will have babies in the US?

Let me guess, hmmmm...

[mass55th]

" How about those illegal aliens who don’t register for Z VISAS?"

This is my concern as well. Since our government has no idea how many illegals are here to begin with, and since the Amnesty Bill of 1984 proved to be ineffective, what guarantee will we have that those who fail to register for the Z Visa will be tracked down now and deported? We all know the government won''t pursue them. They haven't in the past, why would they start now?

[Paperdoll]

Ruben Henjosa, D-TX, introduced a bill that would fund the National Council of La Raza, a pro-illegal immigrant group. The bill, The Hope Fund Act of 2007, (HR1999) would allot $5 Million to La Raza in 2008, an $10 Million each year thereafter.

So it looks like we have something else to tell our Representatives in Washington today.

[Kimberly GG]

“This is the order of progression. The probationary Z visas will be available immediately after this amnesty bill gets signed. The bureaucracy will rubber stamp everyone’s applications because they don’t have the resources or time to check out the forged and back dated documents they will be presented with

1-Probationary Z VISA
2-Real Z VISA
3-Green card
4-Citizenship”

IIRC, the ‘touch back’ comes between 1 and 2. And, IIRC, Hutchinson and Specter have ‘decided’ that the public outrage over amnesty, REALLY has to do with the ‘touch back’ coming AFTER Step 1!!
And IIRC, they’ve decided that if they make this one little change, put the ‘touch back’ as part of Step 1, then we will all be satisfied and the bill will receive support needed to pass.

Do I recall this correctly? I expect there to be some big announcement any time now at a pat each other on the back presser about how both sides have ‘seen the light’ and come to this big compromise that finally eliminates ‘amnesty’!!

They’ll go on and on, blowing smoke about how the illegals must return home and wait their turn at the end of the line, ‘amnesty’ issued fixed. What they won’t say is that the illegals will ‘touch back’, but wait in line HERE, so as not to inconvenience employers who’ve been hiring illegal aliens.

And, what I do recall is that this is the PENCE plan.

[Cacique]

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

[dennisw]

You must go home and come back to get a green card. With Z Visa you can stay here forever as long as you renew it and pay fees

The “return home” requirement will probably be whittled away after the bill is passed

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>How about those illegal aliens who don’t register for Z VISAS? Will we be deporting them. Is there funding and personnel to do this?<<

The bill says that we taxpayers have to pay for immigration lawyers for them in the event they get detained. Doesn’t look like they want any deportations, but immigration lawyers are drooling.

[anglian]

We are not entirely in the dark as to how this amnesty would affect Social Security. In 1986 we were sold the same elixir. We don’t hear the leading salesmen, Ted Kennedy, Orrin Hatch or John McCain, who are touting the 2006 rerun of amnesty, bragging about their 1986 votes. In 1986 we were promised that amnesty would be given to 300,000 illegal aliens, and that would be the final, final amnesty. The reality was that the final count was nearly 3 million. Well, we know how things just grow in the atmosphere of Washington, D.C. when you take your eyes off them. The “one-time” amnesty showed INS and SSA knowingly accepted massive numbers of fraudulent rent receipts, earning records and birth records. The country is now awash with fake I.D. and other documents produced by entrepreneurs who seized on the lax requirements of businesses and government for these documents.

A Ticking Social Security Time Bomb

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=6641

[sheana]

Tell him that’s okay as long as he gives the same amount to the KKK, White Aryan Brotherhood, etc.

[Kimberly GG]

What I’m saying is that they’ve decided that the solution to the ‘amnesty’ complaints is to put the ‘touch’ back FIRST. And they’ll sell it by saying that since they all have to go home and wait in line, it’s not amnesty. They just won’t tell you that they don’t have to WAIT AT HOME.

PENCE PLAN:

“Workers here illegally now would need to leave the country and apply for re-entry. The program would be administered by private companies operating “Ellis Island Centers” outside the country.

The compromise has already won encouraging words from President Bush, and it could bridge the gap between a comprehensive immigration reform plan that passed the Senate in May and an enforcement-only bill passed by the House last December. The Pence-Hutchison plan would cut the Gordian knot of objections to “amnesty” by requiring that workers leave the country and re-enter legally after a short period of time rather than legalizing them while they are here.”

http://spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10213

[viikingDefender]

To solve the emigration problem, how about first prohibiting any illegal alien residing in the USA from ever becoming a US citizen( he/she is a felon). Those who wish to stay here will be issued a green card renewable every two years (my mother from Sweden had one ) Then close the border to any and all those that try to enter illegally. Follow up on all student visas and deport anyone who has overstayed their visas with prohibiting any reentry into the USA. Finally put a lid on all valid emigration with preference for those with skills needed by industry.

[meandog]

Kill the demand and you’ll kill the supply...but the demand for Mexican labor is at the economic base of both the GOP and DemocRAT parties. Thusly, you’ll never see it done.

[dennisw]

The joke's on us. These traitors will say whatever it takes to push through this amnesty

[stephenjohnbanker]

“The “return home” requirement will probably be whittled away after the bill is passed”

Bank on it!

[Cementjungle]

I have a friend/customer who is very liberal in many ways. She has connections, has some personal contact with Boxer etc. Her views have changed over the last couple years.

My far-left mother-in-law is even against the immigration bill, which totally shocks me. Of course she lives in Los Angeles and has her garage door grafitti'd at least once a week and has bums, hookers and transvestites hanging out by her door all the time (and they pee there all the time too).

[Kimberly GG]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1842612/posts