Women who take classes wonder where all the men are

New York Times via Winston-Salem Journal ^ | May 31, 2007 | Stephanie Rosenbloom

[PapaBear3625]

It also didn't hurt that a co-worker - a baptist minister's wife - told me before I got married that if I satisfied my husband's 2 main appetites, he'd never leave.

She's a very wise woman. It's very true.

[RightWhale]

For men, try Alaska.

Ratio of singles 20:1

They are all professionals. As to the rest, you don't lose your woman, you just lose your turn.

[HitmanLV]

Nah, not really. Young women go with both older guys and with young guys. Not many takers for 40+ year old women with baggage, unless they are very goodlooking, and even then nobody worth knowing is going to stick around.

[HitmanLV]

Women certainly respond to handsome men, but their instinct towards that quality isn’t nearly as powerful as the male instincts for a goodlooking woman.

Basically, if a guy is fit, well groomed, and well dressed, he passes most womens’ criteria in the looks department. In fact, the threshold is so low that a guy can be paunchy, fairly well groomed, and dressed clean and neat and still pass most womens’ criteria when it comes to looks.

A devastatingly handsome man can’t keep a woman’s interest for long, especially if he messes up in his presentation (comes across as delicate or finicky, for example, or acts i a non-masculine way). On the other hand, a devastatingly goodlooking and well built woman can keep the average guy happy for a long time before he grows disenchanted with her worse qualities.

A guy can have a very long, satisfying romance with a young, fit, and buxom bikini model, and only realize months later that she doesn’t speak much English.

[HitmanLV]

She’s a little long in the tooth for my tastes. Besides, I have a girlfriend. ;-)

[HitmanLV]

“Kullen, 34, who lives in New York and is the vice president of marketing for Bellmarc Realty.”

Another problem that women with demanding careers find is that many men, on balance, just don't want a female companion with a very busy work schedule. I worked in two major NYC law firms and most of the women were either divorced or single, and in both cases they didn't have many prospects because they were at work 3,000+ hours a year.

I have no interest in a mate who is not going to be around. It's one thing if I had no choice in the matter - that is, most women worked crazy hours. But every man has the choice, and they just reject women who have to work so much that they seldom see them. That's a good thing, in my book.

[Andonius_99]

Yet 90% of the graduates of engineering schools are men.

...and the 10% that are women - YEESH! Most of 'em look like they fell outta the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down!

(I know because I'm there right now - engineering school, not the ugly tree...)

[avacado]

“Where are they?” asked Wendy Hill, who has taken architecture classes at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and has joined singles groups and getaways. “Where do they go?”

Where do we go? We are hiding from you while enjoying life drinking beer with our friends and discussing how nice it is to not have a "to-do" list pinned on our shirts.

[durasell]

And any upscale, single men who might be in the class are likely to have better options than going out with her

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Nope just a little naive. If you’re a “born rich” type of guy you learn to sail, play tennis or ride a horse as a kid. If you’re one of those self-made men in their 30s, you’re working 80 hours a week and don’t have time to take riding lessons.

[Shion]

>>Yeah, but what woman wants a desperate geek? “Revenge of the Nerds” was fiction.<<

Me.

I love my Diablo-playing, HALO playing, code-monkey, fractal-designing nerd.

He doesn’t get mad when I play WarCraft for hours.

[Free_in_Alabama]

You are correct that men do seek out good looking women. I assumed we all knew that. I was simply making the point that women are also putting that requirement high on their list of wants.

I guess part of what I was trying to state is that we are seeing some of the more aggressive and demanding traits we typically associate with males being exhibited by more women (not all). Men have not responded well to the feminazation attempts very well either. I'm not female bashing. Its just that the education system (where alot of liberals reside) has implemented their social experiment under the noses of parents for 30 years now and the result is not too good IMHO.

[MortMan]

(I know because I'm there right now - engineering school, not the ugly tree...)

Hey! You stay outta my tree, now!!! ;-P

[roadcat]

In my twenties, I dated a very much older woman. The answer to your puzzlement is simple: for many men, an older woman who is willing to work hard at making her man happy is much preferable to a younger, more attractive woman who will expect him to work hard at keeping HER happy

Good answer! At 58, she is content with her life and doesn't want much (i.e., not greedy or a gold-digger). Plus she's healthy and would do anything for him, especially him being 42.

[festus]

Then there are the ones that if you look at them wrong, they will mace you.

LOL. Well next time don't hang your tounge out of your mouth and drool ;-)

[Twink]

I miss the rathskellar, not the homework.

Talk to my husband (about the skellar and homework and the women at Penn State).

I didn’t mean to come off like all psu women look down upon the engineering students. I didn’t and many didn’t. Some did. Engineers are detail oriented and basically men, according to my husband and from my experience, in the dorms while a psu student, engineering students were not the “type” my dormmates, friends, etc. were interested in. While I was there, many of the articles in the Collegian were negative about engineering students. Those students were “ice cold” or “only concerned with grades, their education, details” not “boyfriend”material, etc. I always thought this was because one couldn’t argue with them logically (they are so logical) and don’t fall for the emotional parts (but that’s just my opinion). They fix things, they, like many men when confronted with a problem, look for a solution, they want to fix it. It’s not that they don’t have any emotions but when a problem arises, they want to fix it. they’re not into venting and don’t understand us just wanting to vent. I’m going by my husband not that he’s a poster child for this or anything.

It’s funny because today we were talking about the differences between men and women and we were talking about a couple of married friends and their particular problems, and he really didn’t think I understood. He said I didn’t understand (long long story) and I told him what I thought and he said “you really do understand how men think” and I was like duh, it took you 20+ years to figure that out. I really do understand that platonic means different things to men and women and I really do understand that men think differently than women in some instances. Now he understands that I get it. Took him 20+ years but that’s cos he tunes me out half the time. and half the time, I can’t blame him since I vent a lot to him.

I miss pounding the ponies - I’m old. Do you still do the wide mouth beers? The only time I ever had them was at State.

And of course, WE ARE PENN STATE :)

[teldon30]

Nice thread ;)