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Arnie made pit stop for Cuban stogie
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | 1 June 2007 | Katie Daubs

Posted on 06/01/2007 7:36:54 AM PDT by RKV

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To: 1rudeboy

And the law is an “@$$.” That kind of law is an example of EXACTLY what’s wrong with our legal system today. Too many laws, too intrusive and no recognition that we the people are in charge.


21 posted on 06/01/2007 8:10:38 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Please see post 17. You are breaking Federal law by smoking Cuban cigars, even outside of the US. I think that law is insane, btw, but that’s the actual legal situation. Like it or not.


22 posted on 06/01/2007 8:12:11 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Oh No!!!! so I’m a fed fugitive on the lame?! .... must hide, looking out for black helicopters ...


23 posted on 06/01/2007 8:16:58 AM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: RKV

Oh No!!!! so I’m a fed fugitive on the lame?! .... must hide, looking out for black helicopters ...


24 posted on 06/01/2007 8:17:08 AM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: RKV
Castro sucks.

Now that I got that out of the way, when I was a cigar smoker and traveling back and forth to Canada, the law used to allow for you to carry Cuban cigars for personal use (I think they limited it to 3-5). I don’t smoke any more but if Arnold wants a Cuban cigar purchased in Canada, good for him. Sounds like he made a good selection.

25 posted on 06/01/2007 8:17:43 AM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel and Freerepublic Rocks!)
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To: Armedanddangerous
A Cuban cigar, while good, isn’t any better than a good Honduran cigar..

Which Honduran brand are you referring to? I visit Honduras frequently and infrequently have a Cigar. The local stogies weren't horrendous, but a Cohiba for 100 lempiras far outshines.

26 posted on 06/01/2007 8:22:15 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Republican Party Reptile

And you confessed on the internet! But seriously folks, this law is STUPID. On the other hand, it’s a case in point demonstration that Arnie doesn’t have to operate under the same rules as the rest of us peons.


27 posted on 06/01/2007 8:25:47 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Not only that, Cuba imports cigars to sell to tourists as “Cuban”.


28 posted on 06/01/2007 8:27:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: kevinm13

May Fidel rot and burn in Hell. That said, Arnie broke a Federal law, and should be prosecuted. Then maybe our legislators in Congress will be motivated to fix this absurdity.


29 posted on 06/01/2007 8:30:45 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV
OFAC has no jurisdiction outside the US because the Treasury Department has none. Any attempt at enforcement would be thrown out of Federal court in an instant. The penalties you are describing apply to American travelers to Cuba who attempt to bring Cuban goods back to the US. There are also penalties for US citizens who attempt to bring Cuban goods into the US from other countries as well, but there is still no law against simple possession and use once imported.
30 posted on 06/01/2007 8:31:01 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: fanfan; GMMAC

Ping.


31 posted on 06/01/2007 8:32:18 AM PDT by Springman (Why is ? coming up, when I use ')
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To: andy58-in-nh

Actually that part is true. It is against the law for an Ameican citizen to buy a Cuban cigar at home OR abroad. (Cuban Assets Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. Part 515)

http://cigars.about.com/od/cubantradeembargo/qt/0062002a.htm?terms=cuban+cigars

Now personally, I bought my Montecristo Habana’s in Panama, but tossed them and begged for forgiveness once I was informed of the law ;-)


32 posted on 06/01/2007 8:37:01 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: RKV

The law can bite me.

Also notice how effective these laws have been in deposing Castro or driving communism out of Cuba.


33 posted on 06/01/2007 8:37:44 AM PDT by gracesdad
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Yes sir. Cohiba is wonderful. Cuba does still make fine stogies. But I think the novelty of a good Cuban is their strongest point. Many of the great cigar families of Cuba headed to the DR to pursue a business and make a living.

I quite smoking 5 years ago, so I have been out of the game, but what I recall is that Fuente and Macanudo from the Dominican Republic are quite fine, as is Pardon from Nicaragua. I believe that Punch are now made in Honduras, and you can do a lot worse than those.

It is all about preference. I once had an Indonesian cigar that was quite good.


34 posted on 06/01/2007 8:38:52 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: andy58-in-nh

Balderdash. The Federal government has asserted through its agency, Department of the Treasury, that it does in fact have jurisdiction and will enforce an embargo on the purchase and use of Cuban products outside of the United States. The Feds do prosecute Americans (and others) for acts outside of the United states and its territories. As for specific for instance let me point you to this web page from the US DOJ http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/public/4523e.htm


35 posted on 06/01/2007 8:39:19 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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You are breaking Federal law by smoking Cuban cigars, even outside of the US. I think that law is insane, btw, but that’s the actual legal situation. Like it or not.

That's interesting. When US Navy aircraft carriers pull into port in Jebal Ali (about 20 miles away from Dubai) there is a fenced-off "safe" area for sailors known as the Sandbox. It has a lot of little shops and fast food places. Sailors can buy food, cans of beer and gifts and sit out under tents and relax. There are also tobacco shops and Cuban cigars are highly popular among the young sailors enjoying some time off. The Sandbox is set up by the navy and all the shops are given the go-ahead by the navy to sell their goods, including Cuban cigars, to sailors.

I wonder if anyone in the navy knows they are breaking federal law?

36 posted on 06/01/2007 8:39:52 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Turning a blind eye on an insane law more like. That said, the right thing to do is to repeal this [expletive].


37 posted on 06/01/2007 8:42:25 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Really? I thought you just couldn’t import them.


38 posted on 06/01/2007 8:43:30 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: RKV

Next time you go to a Cigar Store, try a Padron “Anniversary 64” I think you will be very suprised. And their quality control is a whole lot better than Cuba’s! This is a well known fact among the Cuban Men in Miami.


39 posted on 06/01/2007 8:50:21 AM PDT by Desparado
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To: Drew68; cardinal4

During the 1990s, the U.S. Interests Section in Havana was undergoing a $21 million dollar rehab. The Seabees from the State Department were deployed there on 90-180 day TDY to keep an eye on the Cuban laborers and to assist the contractors in the rehab. Not surprisingly, some of the Seabees were buds with some of the laborers and these laborers all had sources who “found” a lot of cigars. The Seabees held a sale about once a week of boxes of Cohibas, Hoyas de Monterrey, Partagas, etc. One would be amazed at the number of boxes of cigars that fell off the back of the trucks. Further, just walking through Habana Vieja, one would be assaulted by street people offering boxes of Cubans. Those of us who were stationed there were allowed to bring out $100 worth of cigars and rum and we had to carry a copy of the OFAC exception to shove in the faces of the overzealous customs agents at MIA. Just as I was leaving permanently in 1997, the Cuban customs officials started to demand a bill of sale. Instead of the $25 that we were paying, we then had to pay full price, about $330 for a box of 25.


40 posted on 06/01/2007 8:55:28 AM PDT by Ax (Be a hero, save a whale. Save a baby, go to jail.)
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