Space Age Lasers Reveal Offa's Dyke Missing Link

Western Daily Press ^ | 6-1-2007 | Janet Hughes

[RightWhale]

Good map.

[19th LA Inf]

27ft wide and eight metres high

Or, 8.2 metres wide and 26.2 feet high.

[billbears]

Dang it something else to see next time I go. As if the list isn't long enough already, LOL. I've wanted to go to Wales for a long time but I also want to learn the language before I visit.

[weps4ret]

Ya know I often thought it was spelled dike. I guess PC has just taken over everywhere.

It is just sad!

Gunner

[norton]

Not being entirely frivolous here.
But which side is 'behind'?

[Sam Ketcham]

Thanks for the PING! (* Ping’s Szechuan Bar & Grill ?)

[RightWhale]

The dike was built to keep the barbarians home. That would be more or less the Wales side.

[happygrl]

That’s where I got my blood type.

[blam]

"The dike was built to keep the barbarians home. That would be more or less the Wales side."

The DNA is basically the same on both sides of the dike. The Welsh just left the Franco-Iberian (Ice Age) refuge before the subsequent 18 other (traceable in the DNA) groups did. Same with the Irish and Scots. The Irish and Spanish are about 90% R1b as are 68% of all Europeans. The Norse/Danes (Vikings, etc) are R1a intruders who split from the R1 line about 25k years ago...they (R1a's) spent the Last Glacial Maximum in the Ukranian refuge northwest of the Black Sea while the R1b's huddled in Spain .

The Anglo-Saxons were just late arrival R1b's.

The R1's split from the R2's even earlier and I think the R2's may be the Jomon/Ainu/Emeshi/Lapita people that lead to the likes of Kennewick Man, Spirit Cave man, etc in the Americas...and, a mix of the Polynesians.(Clan Of Ina)

The Scottish Picts and the 'Black Irish' are just more early arrival R1b's.

[SunkenCiv]

:’D Seems like a good problem to have. Not sure about learning the language first, but much luck with that as well.

[albee]

"“Offa’s Dyke” I thought they were referring to a “Bull” Dyke!"

Nah.....Offa is straight, not gay.

You must thinking of Oprah's Dyke.

[Sawdring]

Where do you get your information from in post 29? Is it a single source or gleaned from many?

[billbears]

Thanks. Just one of those things before I visit somewhere I feel it's important to be able to converse with the natives in their language as much as I can. I know English is spoken there but from what I've read the older Welsh population are put off by visitors.

[Pelham]

It’s Rosie Belushi!

[SunkenCiv]

Welsh was revived in part due to the Eisteddfodd, a demanding annual festival for artists composing written works in the language of Cymru. :’)

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/

[Sawdring]

Don’t you have sources for that or was it off the top of your head (#29)?

[blam]

"Don’t you have sources for that or was it off the top of your head (#29)?"

Most is from Stephen Oppenheimer's book, Origin's Of The British. Or, Bryan Sykes Book, Saxons, Vikings And Celts

The speculation about the R2 line is pretty much mine.

[fso301]

From the title I thought someone proved the Rosie ODonnel was Jimmy Hoffa’s daughter

[blam]

Oppenheimer says that 85% of the Brits have ancient R1b DNA that came with the original wave of folks (R1b's) from the Iberian refuge. The contribution of later waves (18) of R1b's is minor. Not to mislead you, there were other haplogroups early in the British Isles, 'V's, U5's and etc. but, they were sprinkled thinly.