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Things to Like in the Immigration Bill - What conservatives are missing.
The Weekly Standard ^ | June 1st, 2007 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 06/02/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by JohnLocke23

Conservatives are sometimes blind to what's in their own best interest. This is especially true on immigration, all the more so on the narrower matter of the bipartisan immigration reform bill now before the Senate. The bill gives conservatives a large chunk of what they've wanted for years, plus some things they don't want. The balance is heavily in their favor, though, and they're crazy to oppose this once-in-a-lifetime chance to stop illegal immigration and enact sensible policies for legal immigration.

At the top of the list of what conservatives can get is significantly beefed-up security along America's southern border. And that's just what's in the initial bill negotiated by Republican senator Jon Kyl and Democratic senator Ted Kennedy. Without blowing up the Kyl-Kennedy compromise, border enforcement can be further strengthened through amendments. Indeed, it was strengthened, in the first week of debate in May, with an amendment by Republican senator Judd Gregg that requires "demonstrated" operational control of the entire border with Mexico.

Then there's the "trigger," a brainstorm of Republican senator Johnny Isakson. It delays further reform--including issuance of Z visas allowing the estimated 12 million illegals in the United States to stay indefinitely--until all the steps to tighten border security have been taken.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bill; fredbarnes; illegal; immigration
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To: JohnLocke23

“Fred Barnes pimps the Bush Amnesty”

http://thetarpit.blogspot.com/2005/11/fred-barnes-pimps-bush-amnesty.html


81 posted on 06/02/2007 11:21:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: MNJohnnie
Face it, the Antis aren't really interested in any solutions on this topic,

What's an Anti?

Here's a another question for you... Would you benefit personally or financially from the proposed legislation allowing illegal aliens to remain in the United States?

82 posted on 06/02/2007 11:22:33 AM PDT by Barnacle (Barred from posting on "A Day in the Life of President Bush" threads.)
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To: Jack Black
Fred Barnes is trying to play Lucy and collectively make Conservatives into Charlie Brown, where we go to kick the football believing, this time, Lucy’s promise not to pull the ball away at the last moment.

Sadly for Fred, we’ve grown tired of this gag are aren’t playing along.

Exactly, that's why we are demanding that Bush "Secure the borders first" to prove his and Congress' true intentions before we open the amnesty flood gates.

83 posted on 06/02/2007 11:24:15 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Jack Black
The 12 million brought themselves here and will take themselves home when Mexico has more appeal than the USA.

It'll be cheaper on them too. We won't exact "coyote" fees on them to leave, just frigging leave. Blackbird.

84 posted on 06/02/2007 11:25:04 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: JohnLocke23

Fred Barnes is a Globalist/Elitist/Country Club Republican.

He can go stuff it.


85 posted on 06/02/2007 11:25:13 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Calvin Locke

“Barnes has been supporting Bush for years on eliminating our Southern border”

Eliminating the southern border might be the only way to fix this problem, send in the army and take over, perhaps all the way to Panama


86 posted on 06/02/2007 11:25:58 AM PDT by munin (The war on muslim terror=world war 3 time to let's roll Time to lube our guns with pork fat)
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To: P-40
That is nearly word-for-word the same slogan used in 1986.

Aparently only us "old conservatives" remember that.
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87 posted on 06/02/2007 11:26:18 AM PDT by radioman
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

“We need to put a stop this immigration bill immediately and in 2008 when President Obama/Hil take over I am sure they will push through a much better immigration bill./sarc”

At least we’ll be able to blame the Democrats. With the Bush-Kyl-McCain way, we get the same crap and the Democrats escape blame and pick up 20 million voters.

Besides, what males you think the Dems will pass this when all the built up anger starts getting directed at them.


88 posted on 06/02/2007 11:26:23 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: JohnLocke23

Hey Fred, take your neo-con babble and peddle it elsewhere.

Neo-cons and their policies have literally destroyed the GOP.


89 posted on 06/02/2007 11:27:01 AM PDT by Hornet19 (Conservative since birth, Republican no more.)
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To: All

The ‘Weekly Standard’ is elite propaganda for elites...

Enforcement first and Verified.....It will take some time....Not an overnight thing...

Call Call Call...Stop The Illegal Immigrant Senate Amnesty Bill...!!!


90 posted on 06/02/2007 11:27:26 AM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: JackRyanCIA; MNJohnnie
Don’t you ever get tired of making an ass of yourself?

Too funny. Listen Jack, it took many years for US to get lilonenotejohnnie to turn his caps lock off. Convincing him to not be an ass, well, I don't think any of US have that much time to spare. He's a flamer to every Conservative thought EVER posted here. Always has been, always will be. Blackbird.

91 posted on 06/02/2007 11:29:38 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: JohnLocke23

Don’t piss down my leg and then me that is only rain.


92 posted on 06/02/2007 11:30:01 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: JohnLocke23
they're crazy

Right there is Barnes' opinion of conservatives. Kinda ends the conversation before it ever got started...

93 posted on 06/02/2007 11:30:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney: Liberalism with a Republican smiley face...)
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To: MNJohnnie

Border Measures were supposed to be enforced after the 1986 Amnesty when we gave 3 million the free ride. Because of the non-enforcement of promises that were made in 1986, 12-20 million more illegals are about to get a free ride.

What makes you think border security now?

It is you that doesn’t get it.


94 posted on 06/02/2007 11:30:51 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: MNJohnnie

I know you’re going to be eviscerated, but I agree with you. It’s been said a million times, we have to deal with the reality we have, not the reality we want.

If we don’t go with this proposed legislation, what is the chance of getting a more “conservative” piece of legislation through? Nada. Zilch. Oh, and in a few years it’s hello Pres. Hillbamawards & a larger congressional dem coaltion, and wait and see what kind of legislation DOES get passed.

Guess we’ll have shown them!


95 posted on 06/02/2007 11:32:09 AM PDT by I_like_good_things_too (Don't make perfect the enemy of the good)
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To: calex59

96 posted on 06/02/2007 11:33:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: acapesket

Fred also thought Harriet Miers was a great choice and that the Dubia Port Deal was a great deal for America.


97 posted on 06/02/2007 11:33:57 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 3AngelaD

“I have had to suspend my habit of watching Fox’s The Big Story in the evening because of this kind of crap. Juan Williams has contributed to my decision.”

It is a shame. I am a big Britt Hume fan and used to turn on the “panel” everyday when I got home from work. Now I turn on Dobbs, who I agree about immigration, but not much else.

Fox is quickly becoming part of the dinosaur media IMO.


98 posted on 06/02/2007 11:34:14 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: indylindy
"Fred and Mort. The Beltway blowhards!"

The s-s-s-stuttering B-b-b-b-beltway B-b-b-b-boys! I want to just reach out and slap them sometimes. I think Brit Hume has come close to that a few times, having to finish their sentences for them. Geez!

99 posted on 06/02/2007 11:35:10 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: JohnLocke23

Fred Barnes, of Fox TV Yah? You’re telling me, he wrote this cr—p?


100 posted on 06/02/2007 11:35:47 AM PDT by onyx eyes (changed my tag line.)
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