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Things to Like in the Immigration Bill - What conservatives are missing.
The Weekly Standard ^ | June 1st, 2007 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 06/02/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by JohnLocke23

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To: JohnLocke23

Barnes is a moron.


21 posted on 06/02/2007 10:56:05 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Jeff Head
Sorry Mr barnes and the Weekly Standard, your dog wont hunt, and we're not buying what you have to sell. It will embolden others...and would render moot the fence in any case because it would establish a defacto means for all of those tens of millions to come here.

And think of all the localities that have tried to correct the problem with legislation. This amnesty will make all that moot as well because NO one will be 'illegal'.

Sad day, my friend.

22 posted on 06/02/2007 10:56:21 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: MNJohnnie
they're crazy to oppose this once-in-a-lifetime chance to stop illegal immigration and enact sensible policies for legal immigration.

This bill does neither of these things and Fred Barnes knows it.

No bill is better than this monstrosity.

L

23 posted on 06/02/2007 10:56:34 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: JohnLocke23
When are people going to get it through their heads?
We don't need any more stinking laws - Until we enforce the one we have now.
Come on people. If we would enforce the laws on the books now then we would't have an imigration problem.
24 posted on 06/02/2007 10:56:39 AM PDT by DeaconRed (If it weren't for the United States Military-There would be NO United States of America.)
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To: JohnLocke23

The 1986 amnesty also made promises that were never kept. The whole issue is about trust, and we have no reason to trust the government on immigration. W’s insults of his opponents isn’t helping either.


25 posted on 06/02/2007 10:56:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: calex59
At the top of the list of what conservatives can get is significantly beefed-up security along America's southern border.

Yeah right!

For anyone who knows how the "process" works..., there is a huge gulf between "authorizing"........"funding"......., and ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION!

Business as usual..., BAIT & SWITCH!!!

26 posted on 06/02/2007 10:57:05 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: JohnLocke23

Fred Barnes is a flaming liberal, and his opinions mean NOTHING!


27 posted on 06/02/2007 10:57:10 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: All

We need to put a stop this immigration bill immediately and in 2008 when President Obama/Hil take over I am sure they will push through a much better immigration bill./sarc


28 posted on 06/02/2007 10:57:28 AM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (In 2008 Republicans will unite around Guiliani, McCain or Romney and whoop Hillary in a Landslide!!)
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To: Mamzelle

LOL! I hope he heard ya!


29 posted on 06/02/2007 10:57:32 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: JohnLocke23

If they can’t manage to enforce the laws with 12 million illegals running around, how do they propose to enforce the laws with 50 or 60 million running around?

Obviously they don’t intend to. They aren’t even trying now, and they certainly won’t try then.


30 posted on 06/02/2007 10:58:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JohnLocke23

Barnes isn’t making much sense... perhaps time for him to retire to the country club.


31 posted on 06/02/2007 10:59:10 AM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: JohnLocke23

I disagree with Barnes, but we really need to give him credit for discussing the actual features of this bill instead of simply calling opponents of the bill names and leaving it at that.


32 posted on 06/02/2007 11:00:35 AM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: MNJohnnie

Nonsense.

Conservatives want results. Not another round of empty promises in a long string of empty promises heaped upon institutionalized dereliction of duty.


33 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:16 AM PDT by AIM-54
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To: MNJohnnie

A-but Jonnie— methinks you confuse conservatives with
liberals, it is mostly the liberal dems that whines about
everything exept more hand-outs


34 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:21 AM PDT by munin (The war on muslim terror=world war 3 time to let's roll Time to lube our guns with pork fat)
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To: Busywhiskers
This whole article is like suggesting we should eat and enjoy dog poop ice cream because there they put chocolate chips in it.

ROFLMAO thanks for the great humor, it is right on the money. I'm still laughing (instead of crying)

35 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:22 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Lurker
Come on just admit it. You all just want to vent your bile and hate about not getting ONLY 100% of ONLY what you want in politics. That the real issue here

The simple fact is you old Conservative are not at all interested in getting things done on any issue, you merely want to sit here on the side lines and mindlessly scream about everything. That why the ONLY solutions you people put up are mere slogans.

You all scream things like "Enforce the laws" (Which hasn't worked to date) "Deport them" (How?) "Punish business that hire illegals" (again how?) etc while making utterly NO effort to actually explain how any of that would actually be done.

Face it, the Antis aren't really interested in any solutions on this topic, they just enjoy the excuse to rant and rave in the most hyper hysteric bile filled terms at a President they have always hated. EVEN if they got exactly what they wanted on this topic , they would be right back here tomorrow screaming about something else.

Frankly after 7 years, Most Conservatives are sick of this constant whining.

36 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: kevao

Actually, didn’t the Senate cut the length of the border fence in half from last years law - that is the “significantly beefed-up security”???


37 posted on 06/02/2007 11:02:02 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: at bay
"The bill gives conservatives a large chunk...”

OF THIS:

38 posted on 06/02/2007 11:02:21 AM PDT by radar101 (Dream Team--Hunter&Thompson)
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To: MNJohnnie
If President Bush ever comes to a sudden stop your nose will be lodged so far up his backside it'll take his entire Secret Service detail to pry you out.

L

39 posted on 06/02/2007 11:03:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: JohnLocke23
once-in-a-lifetime chance to stop illegal immigration and enact sensible policies for legal immigration.

That is nearly word-for-word the same slogan used in 1986.
40 posted on 06/02/2007 11:03:42 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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