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MS 13/Al Qaeda link suspected (Congress compromised?)
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Posted on 06/04/2007 3:16:28 AM PDT by MacDorcha

After using google to search MS 13 and Al Qaeda this is what I came up with...

"According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups. "

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203 ------------------------------

"A top al Qaeda lieutenant has met with leaders of a violent Salvadoran criminal gang with roots in Mexico and the United States.... "

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http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040928-123346-3928r.htm

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"MATAMOROS, MEXICO -- The chief officer of the American Consulate in the border city of Matamoros says he is concerned about the Central American Mara Salvatrucha gang helping al-Qaeda."

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http://www.newschannel5.tv/2005/2/28/1671/MS-13-Al-Qaeda-Connection%7D

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And the only piece I could find back here on FR-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1353152/posts


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KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; americanhiroshima; domesticterrorism; fear; gangs; illegalimmigration; immigration; islam; ms13; ms13alqaedalink; muslims; nationalsecurity; nuclearattack; wot
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I know this is an old chord for the most part, but I think it needs some re-looking at. Especially in the light of the Immigration policy changes being proposed.

It's looking to me like a very real possibility that MS 13 members have found "speaking terms" with top US officials. This would explain the errant notions on the Hill for sweeping changes counter to the overwhelming (yet suprisingly stifled) majority of the people.

1 posted on 06/04/2007 3:16:32 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha

Also, Al Qaeda funding would go a long way to assisting Terrorists entry, as well as furthering the smuggling goals and effectiveness of MS 13’s biggest business- human smuggling.


2 posted on 06/04/2007 3:18:12 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: MacDorcha

My God, this post is a hack job. LoL. Trying to get it in before work. Gah! (that, and a lack of experience to yet give me that “master’s touch”)

Be kind all!


3 posted on 06/04/2007 3:19:41 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: MacDorcha
According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima"

This is old "news". This is supposed to have happen a year and half ago. Michael Wiener used to talk about this all of the time.
4 posted on 06/04/2007 3:36:15 AM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: Perdogg

Old news or not, its still something that cause me a little pause when I think about the policies being enacted these days.

I ask you personally, and everyone else simply a second time-

Could members of the Mexican group MS 13 have gotten to key players on the Hill to get such absurd policies even introduced?


5 posted on 06/04/2007 3:45:31 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: MacDorcha

Google isn’t a source. That’s like saying you learned something in “the library,” without providing book titles. So...how about providing an actual source or sources?


6 posted on 06/04/2007 3:47:39 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: MacDorcha

The problem is if people cry wolf, then no one listens anymore.

I believe we need to seal our borders and account for people who are in this country legal or not. But this issue doesn’t need to be embellished.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 3:49:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: BCrago66

Because it wouldnt let me pick 3 different sources to put in the source slot.

It’s not a work’s cited page, just a link to what I used to cultivate the information I have.


8 posted on 06/04/2007 3:50:54 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: MacDorcha

Well, at first this comes across as industrial strength tin foil material; but after seeing that the latest amnesty bill contains the sheer idiocy of allowing z visas to gang members who say they renounce their gang memberships .. I don’t know. There is no rational explanation of why the Senate is considering something so suicidal.


9 posted on 06/04/2007 3:53:32 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Perdogg

What you are saying is a common sense answer.

I know that politicians have lied since the dawn of scum, but isn’t this one a little odd considering the situation we are in?

In the midst of fighting (and presumably winning against) a terrorist network, we all of a sudden have our own gate keepers open the gate to the enemy.

Someone go to the gate keepers.

Considering Bush’s stance and approach to the WOT, shouldn’t border security be one of the biggest ticket items their are? Why the complete abandonment of any type of logic? at least arguement in the senate? This seems to only be an issue that the “little people” can do anything about. Why?

We need to remember the little details too. Cry “foul” all you want, if the other team has a gun to the ump’s head, you lost the ballgame.


10 posted on 06/04/2007 3:58:33 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: Truth29

I’m glad you saw it that way. I felt that way too. It feels like I should be sipping kool-aide. But something about the context here seems different.

Let’s just say- I hope I’m just a nut-job.


11 posted on 06/04/2007 4:03:52 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: BCrago66
Here is a source for you.

Al Qaeda Tours and Travel

12 posted on 06/04/2007 4:07:28 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: MacDorcha

Supportive information at this link too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420911/posts
America’s Most Dangerous Gang


13 posted on 06/04/2007 4:23:01 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks!


14 posted on 06/04/2007 4:33:17 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: Calpernia; MacDorcha; Truth29; Perdogg; BCrago66
The first link above was from over two years ago - and it is completely true - I'm the one who wrote it.

In the last few years I have at time posted a few updates - at one time I tried to followup on two Bangladeshis who were going to Maryland via the Mexican border. Unfortuntely I lost track of them - but believe that they are in the States now.

The most recent post on my blog gives an update from now as well as some info regarding our next election and Al Qaeda.

This isn't a joke people - did you think that only Mexicans were crossing this border? There is an entire "people moving" operation here in Southeast Asia that manipulates this and is sending as many people across the border as they can.

Rest assured that the amnesty will be not just for Mexicans but for all foreigners in the USA - and right now there is a massive rush to go before the amnesty takes place.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

15 posted on 06/04/2007 4:38:12 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy

That compilation was excellent. Big bump to you!


16 posted on 06/04/2007 5:11:53 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks Calpernia!


17 posted on 06/04/2007 5:23:29 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy
Thank you :)
18 posted on 06/04/2007 5:27:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: expatguy; Calpernia

Makes my steaming pile look like it’s been in the sun too long.
Lol, good job, wish I had some time...


19 posted on 06/04/2007 6:20:33 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: expatguy; MacDorcha

Mark it for review when you do have time. There are definite links compiled in that thread that show MS 13 are running drugs for Al Qaeda.

This is why some of our lovely ‘officials’ are fighting the wall going up.


20 posted on 06/04/2007 6:59:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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