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The War on 'Defective' Children: Genetic Selection
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| 6/4/2007
| Chuck Colson
Posted on 06/04/2007 7:35:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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posted on
06/04/2007 7:36:01 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
Trouble is, at least in the movie “Gattaca” they had the technology to engineer babies with all the right assets (or what they wanted at least) and no inherited diseases. In today’s world the only option is aborting and flushing the embryos that show characteristics you don’t want. Then presumably trying again.
Gattaca was a lot more sophisticated.
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posted on
06/04/2007 7:40:19 PM PDT
by
sinanju
To: wagglebee
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posted on
06/04/2007 7:42:02 PM PDT
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: Mr. Silverback
To: sinanju
They may have had the “technology” but the lead character was “subpar” and discriminated against because of his genetics.
It’s going to take a Constitutional amendment to protect life and prohibit genetic discrimination.
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:03:51 PM PDT
by
weegee
(Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
To: sinanju
Actually, if they can test embryos, abortion is not the logical solution. Implantation is.
This test tube babies. "mommy" is given hormones to produce a dozen ova. "Daddy" deposits his sample into a vial after some stimulus. The ejaculate then is subjected to a maze to weed out some bad sperm. The the remainder is then immobilized and put under a microscope to check for chromosomal abnormalities. Defective sperm are removed. The remaining sperm-laden fluid is then divided among the 12 petrie dishes for conception. The resulting zygotes are placed in a proper solution and allowed to develop for a few days. (All of this has been done at some point)
Cells are carefully taken from the Zygotes to screen for genetic disease. Bad zygotes are either discarded are saved for stem-cell harvesting. Four Zygotes are implanted in the hope that at least one will succesfully implant in the uterus.
The only new technology would be screening the zygotes. Everything ele has been or is routinely done to humans or other mammals.
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:04:12 PM PDT
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: rmlew
“Daddy” deposits his sample into a vial after some stimulus”
Do they have a nurse providing the stimulus? Sorry, couldn’t help it ;)
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:17:49 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: rmlew
All it is is murder by another name. It’s just as bad as abortion.
Creating life to discard the useless or defective is cheapening human life to the level of a commodity.
Experimenting on the *zygotes* is human experimentation and as bad as what Nazi Germany was guilty of.
Sanitizing it by using petri dishes, and making it all sound clinical by using terms like *selection*, *screening*, and *harvesting* doesn’t change what’s really going on; the murder of human beings simply for the sake of convenience.
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:24:04 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: metmom
I don’t support it. I was pointing out where we are.
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:28:54 PM PDT
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: rmlew
I wasn’t really sure you did, so thanks for clearing that up.
Sadly, we are there.
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:32:36 PM PDT
by
metmom
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:44:30 PM PDT
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Mr. Silverback
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posted on
06/04/2007 8:46:29 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
To: Mr. Silverback
This can get weird in a hurry. That is, when people are asked about what characteristics they want in their children, their first response is almost invariably that they want them to be intelligent, athletic, attractive, and possibly artistic.
However, few surveys dig much deeper. I heard of one that did (no source), and found a bizarre interest in people: with more consideration, they often want their children to have more canine and feline characteristics.
That is, they want their children to be more like cats and dogs. Not just in appearance, but in personality as well.
Their thinking is that “everybody likes pets”, so if their children are like dogs and cats, then they will be very popular.
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posted on
06/04/2007 9:03:58 PM PDT
by
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posted on
06/04/2007 9:46:51 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
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To: Mr. Silverback
"...In the 1998 film Gattaca..."Just as an aside, the 'Futuristic' electric car in the film is a 1963 Studebaker Avanti (with an electric-motor sound track).
There's a picture of one (green) down on my profile-page ................ FRegards
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posted on
06/04/2007 10:59:34 PM PDT
by
gonzo
(In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
To: Popocatapetl
...their first response is almost invariably that they want them to be intelligent, athletic, attractive, and possibly artistic.This makes me laugh. My son is intelligent, athletic, attractive, artistic and we've called him "puppy" more times than I can count. (He's bouncy, happy, friendly and VERY destructive!) lol!
By all accounts, my "feline" daughter is *much* easier to live with. (But then, I always was a cat person...)
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posted on
06/05/2007 12:27:07 AM PDT
by
Marie
(Unintended consequences.)
We moved from preventing children who will die young to those who might become ill in middle age. Close to 100% of us will be imperfect, or handicapped, or severely ill at some stage in our lives.
$&!7 happens.
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posted on
06/05/2007 4:37:18 AM PDT
by
syriacus
("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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