Clinton: "Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People"

Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

During a nationally broadcast forum Monday evening on faith and politics Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) attacked the free market and told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.”

“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

She went on, “The same with energy. You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

Clinton made these comments near the end of her allotted 15-minute portion of the event.

Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.”

“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

The New York senator said something similar to “taking things away from some people” at a June 2004 private fundraising event in San Francisco. There, Associated Press reporter Beth Fouhy wrote that Clinton told attendees Democrats should take money back from taxpayers who benefited from President Bush’s tax cuts.

Clinton told her donors, “We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

On the campaign trail, each of the three leading Democrats running for their party’s nomination for President, Clinton, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), have said he or she would repeal the Bush tax cuts to help finance universal health care.

The June 4 event was hosted by Sojourners, a social justice movement for progressive Christians. Founder Jim Wallis is the author of “God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It.”

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien moderated the forum. It aired on that station Monday evening from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Edwards and Obama also participated.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

PING!

[NoobRep]

Yep.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Her repeated acts of blasphemy are shameless, you know???

[IncPen]

You may be right, but I contend this woman is never going to be President.

I'll grant you that she may not be able to win an election, but she can sure as hell steal it, and I think that's their ultimate strategy.

Gore in 2000 was a dry run

[cpforlife.org]

"Why is this woman considered so scary to beat? We should be down on our knees praying that Hillary is the Dem nominee. She is absolutely the most beatable of the bunch.

Her negatives have never dropped below 40% and they are now nearly 50%.

She's unelectable and the DNC knows it."

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BILL FACTOR???

As I understand it if Bill could run for a third term he would be a shoe in. I think they will make it clear that they will be "co-prezidents".

As nauseated as I am thinking this, IF they run the campaign like this -- Belzebubba's "positives" will offset Hildabeast's "negatives" and she/it has a real chance. If the country was blind and stupid enough to elect him to a second term anything is possible.

God help us.

The dreaded Hildabeast

[kenth]

Clinton told her donors, “We’re not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say ‘we’re going to give you more.’ We’re saying, ‘you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

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Not let you keep more of your own money, but not let you have so much of the government’s money.

[Dahoser]

I contend that Hillary is the only candidate on either side capable of inciting a civil war.

What does that say about the people in this country? Nothing good, that's for sure. She is a Marxist straight out of the depths of hell yet despite that and despite her negatives, she remains a very real threat to take the RAT nomination.

[ItsForTheChildren]

[AFPhys]

I contend that Hillary is the only candidate on either side capable of inciting a civil war.

I agree!

[P-40]

I saw my first ‘Hillary08’ sticker today on the bumper of a Toyota Tundra off-road...with a ‘Become Carbon Neutral’ sticker also. You really need something like that in a city.

[TAdams8591]

"She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

Pure, unadulterated arrogance.

[TAdams8591]

No, he did not. People are all required to have health insurance, just as they are required to have car insurance.

[abigailsmybaby]

How about we take your larynx out with a set of Vice Grips and feed to your old man?

[bray]

Not to worry, she is going to only take it from the evil rich people.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Cymbaline]

Put that on a bumper sticker!

[andy58-in-nh]

Hey Hillary: if the Free Market has “failed”, then explain why most of the “poor” people in the US have: indoor plumbing, automobiles, air conditioning, 24-hour electricity, hot and cold water on demand, refrigeration, stores filled to the ceiling with inexpensive food, and access to quality health care, while the average inhabitant of any Socialist outpost you would care to name has almost none of the above, and would be thrown in jail for complaining about it.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact.

Says who? In my state they get great healthcare for FREE.

[samm1148]

“Her negatives have never dropped below 40% and they are now nearly 50%.”

Exactly what I’ve been saying. The only way the republican nominee could be beaten by Clinton is if he (whoever)is so left leaning that the distinction between the two is blurred.

Just my private opinion here but my money is on Richardson for those guys. Of course I don’t know, and neither do the pundits. But that is my guess for that horse race.

[A CA Guy]

I don’t think Thompson or many others believe in the Communist manifesto.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

She can squeak in with 30-40% if someone does a Ross Perot (I am betting on McCain or Guiliani).