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Conservatives Can Defeat 5 Un-American Traitors in '08: Collins, Domenici, Graham, Hagel, Warner
Vote records from NumbersUSA ^ | 6.7.07 | Dangus

Posted on 06/07/2007 5:43:52 AM PDT by dangus

Five Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to ensure the destruction of America. They are "post-nationalists," demanding open borders, free access for terrorists, and an illiterate underclass. These aren't near-sighted liberals, but fake conservatives who know full well that the havoc they will create, but they lust so badly for the blood money of a class of people who cannot wait for a slave class so poorly paid, they could not survive without massive amounts of taxpayer funds. Yes, 20 million criminals from Mexico will get free medical care and Spanish-language education instead of the Americans who paid their taxes.

Susan Collins (ME), Pete Domenici (NM), Chuck Hagel (NE), John Warner (VA), and Lindsay Graham (SC) are today committing crimes against America far greater than the Rosenbergs. (Other destoryers of America include Dick Lugar, Mel Martinez, Arlen Specter and Jon Kyl.)

Is such language over-heated? You decide:

THE "CRIMINAL PROTECTION" ACT:

Domenici, Graham, Hagel, Lugar, Martinez, Specter and Voinovich voted to allow cities to obstruct justice in the apprehension of illegal aliens who remain illegal, even under the terms of the immigration bill.

THE "TERRORIST IMPORTATION" ACT:

Larry Craig, Domenici, Graham, Hagel, Kyl, Lugar, Martinez, McCain, Specter and Voinovich voted to invite to stay in America those deemed likely to be terrorists, sex offenders, convicted gang members, drunk drivers, domestic batterers, stalkers and those already deported.

THE "IMMIGRANTS GET THE MEDICAL CARE YOU PAID FOR" ACT:

Collins, Domenici, Graham, Hagel, Kyl, Lugar, McCain, and Specter voted to permit illegal aliens to rip off the U.S. medical system by failing to maintain health coverage, while being covered by "good Samaritan" laws which require they be treated anyway.

THE TAXPAYERS FEED THE SLAVES ACT:

So much for aliens paying their fair share of taxes: Brownback, Collins, Grassley, Lugar, Specter, Smith, and Voinovich voted to allow illegal aliens to receive Earned Income Tax Credits, which turn the IRS from a collection agency into a welfare agency.

THE ACT TO REPEAT SEPTEMBER 11TH:

Cochran, Collins, Domenici, Graham, Gregg, Kyl, Lugar, McCain, Martinez, Specter, Voinovich and Warner voted to allow visa-holders free transit across our borders before the biometric tracking, delayed since 1996, is implemented. Most of the September 11 terrorists entered America legally, but were not tracked down when they became illegals because this system was not yet implemented.

THE "WHO NEEDS TO LEARN ENGLISH TO GET A JOB WHEN I CAN GET MY WELFARE IN SPANISH, ARABIC OR FARSI" ACT.

Most deceitfully, the following craven liars voted to make English the official language, but then voted to overturn those provisions, and encode into law President CLinton's multilingual mandate which will allow illegal aliens to sue any agency or shutter any government-funds-receiving organization which fails to provide services in any of 320 foreign languages: Coleman, Collins, Domenici, Hagel, Lugar, Murkowski, Snowe, Specter, Warner. These votes will allow these Senator to tell their constituents that they voted for assimilation, while they really voted to force tax payers to absorb the cost of illegal aliens refusing to assimilate.

(Vote records from NumbersUSA; rhetoric is mine.)


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1 posted on 06/07/2007 5:43:59 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Warner is a disgrace to Virginia and will be leaving office in 2008, whether he goes voluntarily or is thrown out.


2 posted on 06/07/2007 5:46:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * WAHOO WA! * Allen for Senator from VA * Fred Thompson for President)
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To: dangus

Pete really dissappointed me on this one.


3 posted on 06/07/2007 5:47:06 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dangus

I strongly urge all Americans to vote for any primary challengers to any of the Senators listed. Please don’t be fooled by arguments that incumbents are more likely to win general elections. After defeating Brian Toomey, Specter was re-elected with 50.1% of the vote. Exit polls show that Toomey would have easily won election. (In fact, even McClintock could have won in California, according to exit polls, had conservatives not voted for Schwartzenegger, believing him more electable.)


4 posted on 06/07/2007 5:47:28 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: dangus
Yes, 20 million criminals from Mexico will get free medical care and Spanish-language education instead of the Americans who paid their taxes.

With all due respect, such rhetoric damages your own cause, quite severely.

Of course, whether that concerns you depends on whether you just like to express your anger, or whether you're interested in stopping this bill.

5 posted on 06/07/2007 5:47:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Offendo ergo sum)
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To: rabscuttle385

Heck, in a heartbeat, I’d vote for that incompetent boob named Jim Gilmore over John Warner. IIRC, Warner even voted against Clarence Thomas.


6 posted on 06/07/2007 5:48:56 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: dangus

That is absolutely ridiculous to call these people unAmerican traitors because you disagree with them about a policy issue. You start sounding like the opposite side of the same coin of those Bush is a Nazi people.

You got to be careful before throwing around terms like unAmerican traitors and calling people like US Senators those names for two reasons. One a lot of people voted for them and two they’re doing something you’re not making a choice about policy that will affect a lot of people.

Oh yeah and did I mention Chuck Hagel won some medals defending his country.

So be real careful about calling people traitors.


7 posted on 06/07/2007 5:50:19 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: dangus

Pat Toomey


8 posted on 06/07/2007 5:51:00 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: Sherman Logan

What part do you disagree with? By “criminals,” I do not refer to future applicants for guest-worker visas, but the 20 million people who broke U.S. laws to invade the United States. And free medical care, which must be provided to them under good Samaritan laws, is bankrupting hospitals across America and severely reducing the number of doctors and hospitals who participate in medical plans designed for American tax-payers.


9 posted on 06/07/2007 5:52:07 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: dangus

Beat em in the primaries.

Chuck Hagel has a primary apponent in Republican AG Jon Bruning. I say we support him to send the others a message.


10 posted on 06/07/2007 5:52:07 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fred 2008)
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To: Sherman Logan

O, incidentally: while I certainly hope we can still stop this bill, my goal is the removal of such treacherous scum from office.


11 posted on 06/07/2007 5:52:51 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: dangus

I think there is a good chance to dump Hagel and Graham. I suspect the others you list will survive the next election cycle, although I’ve read the Dems are targetting Snowe.

Wouldn’t bother me a bit if she lost, I don’t trust her, and have no use for her.


12 posted on 06/07/2007 5:53:06 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: CPT Clay

>> Pat Toomey <<

OMG... Brian Toomey was an old college friend of mine. HAR!


13 posted on 06/07/2007 5:53:40 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: Miami Vice
did I mention Chuck Hagel won some medals defending his country.

With respect, so did Benedict Arnold and John Kerry.

Medals are just 'proxy indicators' - we can't take them at face value. We have to look at what the man did.

14 posted on 06/07/2007 5:55:46 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Sherman Logan

Your response to Dangus sounds a little RINO whiner.

I enjoyed the commentary from Dangus....not only funny but also accurate


15 posted on 06/07/2007 5:59:06 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
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To: dangus

Did I say that I disagreed with the substance of your remarks?

I merely pointed out that emotional language such as “20 million criminals from Mexico” will be used by the opposition to inflame sentiment against your position.

You know as well as I do what people think of when the term “criminal” is used. We think of rapists, murderers and robbers. While an unfortunate number of illegal Mexican immigrants fall into this category, the vast majority do not.

BTW, your numbers are hyperbolic. It is generally believed that somewhere between 12M and 20M people are in this country illegally, with by no means all of them from Mexico.


16 posted on 06/07/2007 5:59:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Offendo ergo sum)
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To: dangus

bttt


17 posted on 06/07/2007 6:00:14 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Your reply to dangus is nonsensical (with all due respect).


18 posted on 06/07/2007 6:00:26 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Such rhetoric has helped to split the conservative movement on this issue, as per Linda Chavez. That is a fact.

I guess it depends on whether your goal is to make yourself feel good by spouting “daring” rhetoric, or if it is to defeat the bill.

One wins political fights in our system by pulling the undecideds over to your side, not by alienating them with extremist-sounding rhetoric.

There was lots of hollering on FR last fall about how it didn’t matter if the “traitor” GOP maintained control of Congress. At least partially as a consequence of such attitudes, we are now faced with the likelihood that this bill will pass. I hope y’all are proud.


19 posted on 06/07/2007 6:03:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Offendo ergo sum)
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To: dangus

Great post.

I, also, believe these pro-illegal Senators are anti-American.

Not only they value the rights of illegals over American citizens...they value the rights of illegals over legal immigrants (the ones who are really getting hosed in this illegal alien amnesty nonsense)

These same Senators, 100 years ago, would have shut down Ellis Island and forced everyone to enter the US thru Mexico.

Also, if illegals were to demand the same wages as Americans...these RINO Senators would immediately drop their fetish for illegals. Note La Raza Lindsey’s near meltdown yesterday over Sen Obama’s weak meaningless amendment


20 posted on 06/07/2007 6:05:39 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
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To: rabscuttle385
Warner is a disgrace to Virginia and will be leaving office in 2008, whether he goes voluntarily or is thrown out.

That is the truth, the demorats are planning to run mark warner, so the old I'm going to vote for warner will screw everything up, however, the piece of --it should have stepped down six years ago.

21 posted on 06/07/2007 6:06:06 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Miami Vice

You got to be careful before throwing around terms like unAmerican traitors and calling people like US Senators those names

Do you mean like when GW called the Minutemen a “vigilante” group? Or how about how McCain has been calling people who disagree with McCain\Kennedy bigots and stupid for disagreeing.Seems to me people on the other side of these arguments can say what they want !!!


22 posted on 06/07/2007 6:07:53 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: dangus
Cochran, Collins, Domenici, Graham, Gregg, Kyl, Lugar, McCain, Martinez, Specter, Voinovich and Warner

The Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party.

23 posted on 06/07/2007 6:08:29 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Miami Vice

Yes, and Hitler served honorably in the german army. He was wounded in WW1. Does this mean that he is beyond reproach and cannot be criticized?

The character and worth of a person is not solely defined by past accomplishments, but by what that person does each and every day of life.

Semper Fi


24 posted on 06/07/2007 6:09:15 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: Sherman Logan

You lost me when you mentioned “Linda Chavez”...talk about extremism (Hispanophila)

This issue is not splitting conservatives. Splitting the GOP, yes....but not conservatives. Conservatives value the rights of America and Americans.....respecting legal immigrants while not rewarding illegals.


25 posted on 06/07/2007 6:10:39 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
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To: dangus

If this stinking mess passes, we should all stop working and go to the beach until they change their minds.


26 posted on 06/07/2007 6:11:18 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: dangus
The most loathsome of all is that filthy little weasel Graham. He looks (and acts) like a eunuch.

I hope the good people of S. Carolina show him the door.

27 posted on 06/07/2007 6:14:04 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: dangus

I watched c-span 2 last night, and I saw Kennedy and Graham get emotional and tag team defense of this bill. At one time Graham became so mad , he was spitting and pacing.Someone was trying to hurt his “baby”. Even Obama said there are problems . He wanted a sunset provision to review how it works in 5 years, but NO, there will be no change allowed for 14 years. I watched them vote for English , then remove that provision, just covering their a””.
I admit, I voted for Graham. How he fooled me , I don’t know. But as soon as I calm down, I will write his letter of termination. Graham, YOU’RE FIRED.

SPIT


28 posted on 06/07/2007 6:15:17 AM PDT by bullfeather (illegitimate non carborundum)
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To: Sherman Logan

The rhetoric on either side has not split the conservative movement. I will agree, however, that it has split the Republican party. That is the problem with the Republican party, it has too many who are not conservatives. And, the bill almost passed before with a Republican majority. On this issue, I don’t see any difference between who is in control.


29 posted on 06/07/2007 6:15:19 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Inquisitive1

we should all stop working and go to the beach

Yeah, and when you return you’ll find your job backfilled with one of the “new citizens” !!!


30 posted on 06/07/2007 6:16:30 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Badeye

I think there is a good chance to dump Hagel and Graham. I suspect the others you list will survive the next election cycle, although I’ve read the Dems are targetting Snowe.

I think you must mean Collins. Snowe has a long way to go (2012) before the Democrats can do anything.


31 posted on 06/07/2007 6:16:36 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Obie Wan; Miami Vice
Or Lindsey Graham's statement about Americans who are against this bill.."we're gonna tell the BIGOTS to shut up".

Those are fighting words.

sw

32 posted on 06/07/2007 6:17:40 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: NeoCaveman

The guy challenging Hagel in the primary is currently polling 9 points ahead of Hagel. Sounds like the people of Nebraska have had it with him, too.


33 posted on 06/07/2007 6:18:09 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The road to victory in Iraq is through Iran.)
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To: Miami Vice

So did Benedict Arnold and John Murtha. Over time, things and people change - not always for the better.


34 posted on 06/07/2007 6:18:30 AM PDT by magoo70804
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To: dangus
While I sympathize with the effort and do support finding conservative opponents to the liberal Republicans, I think a more reasonable goal is to find vulnerable Democrats...there are several freshmen Democrats in the House of Reps who need to be replaced asap.

As far as vulnerable Democrat Senators, I would like to see some strong challengers to Max Baucus of Montana, Tim Johnson of South Dakota (the man is very sick and probably won't run again), that idiot Landrieu in Lousiana (Bobby Vindal, I think, ought to replace her...), Mark Pryor of Arkansas (how about you, Huckabee??), Frank Lautenberg of Jersey.

It is not inconceivable to have a Republican Senate in 2009.

35 posted on 06/07/2007 6:19:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

They’ve caught up to me. I’ve been referring to Ben Nelson (D-NE) as the Conservative Senator from Nebraska for a couple of years now.


36 posted on 06/07/2007 6:21:03 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fred 2008)
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To: spectre

Not only did La Raza Lindsey call illegal alien amnesty opponents “bigots”...but called them “bigots” in front of a group (La Raza) that is way Hispano-Centric and also supports the “Aztlan” movement.....returning US territory in the SW back to Mexico.

Lindsey seems tobe hangin’ with the bigots


37 posted on 06/07/2007 6:22:33 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
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To: dangus
Senator Lugar had made prior slip of tongue long ago revealing he was more of a Democrat.

Any Democrats opposed to the bill? Any chance of filibuster?

38 posted on 06/07/2007 6:23:53 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I am highly disappointed in Linda, but she has been a reliable conservative on other issues for many years.

While I think she has considerably over-reacted, her reaction is, I think, an emotional and tribal one created by exactly this type of rhetoric, and worse.

Tossing red meat to the true believers may be fun, but it is far more likely to alienate the waverers that you need to actually defeat the bill.

Since you don’t need to convince the true believers, who are already on your side, what can such rhetoric do except drive away those who might otherwise provide the margin of victory?


39 posted on 06/07/2007 6:24:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Offendo ergo sum)
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To: Miami Vice
"Oh yeah and did I mention Chuck Hagel won some medals defending his country."

Good comment. Being unBush is not being unAmerican. 65% on the electorate are not unAmerican and especially those who are not chickenhawks.

40 posted on 06/07/2007 6:24:46 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: spectre

I called his office, and talked to staff. I said to defeat the immigration bill. The tone of his voice was sarcastic, when he said he will “tell” the senator my “opinion”. I get the feeling, even after 2 weeks of phoning and mailing Graham, Graham is not going to change anything.
A big bad bill is better than no bill.


41 posted on 06/07/2007 6:24:59 AM PDT by bullfeather (illegitimate non carborundum)
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To: dangus

This list is exactly why I will not contribute one red cent to the RNC, because they will spend my money to help people like Hagel get reelected. This is just like last year when the RNC was giving money to Lincoln Chaffee.

If you donate money this year, keep it local! I’m sending Fred Thompson a donation, and the rest of my money this year is going toward defeating three incumbent City Councilmen here in town.


42 posted on 06/07/2007 6:25:05 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: Badeye

The dems are going to have to wait awhile if they want to target Olympia Snowe (Rino, Maine). She was re-elected to a 6 year Senate term in November, 2006, so she’s not up for re-election again until 2012, a life-time away, or so it seems. I held my nose and voted for her....there was no alternative. The democrat who challenged her, Jean Hay-Bright, was anything BUT bright.....she was an anti-war moonbat on the order of Cindy Sheehan, except much older.
A third party guy also ran, but he, too, was a moonbat.
Olympia Snowe received 71% of the vote.

Susan Collins is up for re-election in 2008. First district
(southern Maine)democrat Congressman Tom Allen is going to challenge her, but he is an ultra-liberal.

Conservative Republicans exist in Maine on the State level, but not on the federal level, I’m sorry to say.


43 posted on 06/07/2007 6:25:31 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The road to victory in Iraq is through Iran.)
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To: MBB1984
On this issue, I don’t see any difference between who is in control.

Let's see. 2006, bill stopped by a slight GOP (mostly) majority in the House. 2007, worse bill passes (probably).

You're right. No difference at all.

44 posted on 06/07/2007 6:26:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Offendo ergo sum)
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To: spectre
Or Lindsey Graham's statement about Americans who are against this bill.."we're gonna tell the BIGOTS to shut up".

The way to prove him wrong, of course, is to sound as much like a bigot as possible.

45 posted on 06/07/2007 6:27:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Offendo ergo sum)
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To: Sherman Logan

ehem......EVERYONE of them ARE criminals. You break the law, you’re a criminal and everyone of them broke the law getting her!!! Not hyperbole


46 posted on 06/07/2007 6:30:56 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Again, that’s crap! The pubs are driving this as fast as the dems. This isn’t one of the consequenses of pubs staying home last year...this is pub pushed.


47 posted on 06/07/2007 6:33:43 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: dangus

Brownback killed his chance for POTUS.


48 posted on 06/07/2007 6:33:57 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: dangus

Just sent this email to Fred Thompson via his website:

Senator Thompson:

I’m hoping that this election can be nationalized, in a similar fashion to ‘94 and the ‘Contract With America’. I want the opportunity to elect new people and fresh ideas to Congress; Representatives and Senators that will support your agenda. I want people who understand that they are sent to Washington D.C. to do the peoples’ business, NOT to win popularity contests in the social circuit. I want Republicans in Congress who will support the will of the conservative base, not mock us and call us ‘unpatriotic’. After this fiasco with ‘Immigration Reform’, I trust you more than I trust President Bush or the RNC; don’t let me down. (Read: THROW THE INCUMBENT RINO BUMS OUT!)


49 posted on 06/07/2007 6:34:04 AM PDT by golas1964 (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Miami Vice

“That is absolutely ridiculous to call these people unAmerican traitors because you disagree with them about a policy issue.”

***

I don’t call them traitors. Idiots maybe, but not traitors.


50 posted on 06/07/2007 6:39:23 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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