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What it's really like to be a woman in Saudi Arabia
LA Times ^ | June 6, 2007 | Megan K. Stack

Posted on 06/07/2007 8:14:46 AM PDT by van_erwin

Crossing the cafe, I felt the hard stares of Saudi men. A few of them stopped talking as I walked by and watched me pass. Them, too, I ignored. Finally, coffee in hand, I sank into the sumptuous lap of an overstuffed armchair.

"Excuse me," hissed the voice in my ear. "You can't sit here." The man from the counter had appeared at my elbow. He was glaring.

"Excuse me?" I blinked a few times.

"Emmm," he drew his discomfort into a long syllable, his brows knitted. "You cannot stay here."

"What? Uh … why?"

Then he said it: "Men only."

He didn't tell me what I would learn later: Starbucks had another, unmarked door around back that led to a smaller espresso bar, and a handful of tables smothered by curtains. That was the "family" section. As a woman, that's where I belonged. I had no right to mix with male customers or sit in plain view of passing shoppers. Like the segregated South of a bygone United States, today's Saudi Arabia shunts half the population into separate, inferior and usually invisible spaces.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jimcrow; starbucks; women
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To: van_erwin

Everytime a feminists states for fact that the Judeo-Christian religions have held women back, I bring up the names Deborah and Golda Meir.

You would be amazed how many of these “educated” women had no idea that the fourth Judge of Israel was a woman, or that the fourth Prime Minister of Israel was a woman.

They are stunned that these “misogynistic” Jews would put women into positions of authority. I also point out that Christiandom led to Catherine the Great, Elizabeth, Victoria, Joan of Arc, Mary Queen of Scots, Margaret Thatcher, etc.

Ask them for a female ruler outside of the Judeo-Christian cultures and they can name maybe 3 or 4 at most.


21 posted on 06/07/2007 9:08:48 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: van_erwin

Apparently the woman pretending to be a Muslim did not really study the culture. She thinks that her culture is better; it may not be.


22 posted on 06/07/2007 9:17:35 AM PDT by olezip
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To: van_erwin

Maybe best for no woman to mix with Moslem men. It seems their culture encourages them to be raped, enslaved, stoned, flogged and beheaded.


23 posted on 06/07/2007 10:35:57 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Sparta seems to have had the first society where men and women were treated fairly equally. Rome was not too bad either. The Germanic and Celtic tribes certainly accorded women higher status than the Middle Eastern scum.


24 posted on 06/07/2007 10:40:30 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Vanders9

Ah, so silly of me not to grasp the distinctions! LOL

Thank heavens you were there to straighten me out.


25 posted on 06/07/2007 11:11:16 AM PDT by trimom
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To: van_erwin

Where are the feminist in America on this topic? Where’s HRC?


26 posted on 06/07/2007 11:13:48 AM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: BienHoa69-70 RVN

You are assuming that Feminists are motivated by sex. Let me assure you they are NOT. Feminists reject most forms of sexuality and the practice of sex as misogynistic.

I think their lack attractiveness or desirable demeanor has left them bitter and spiteful and in response they lash out at a world that largely rejects them.


27 posted on 06/07/2007 11:38:57 AM PDT by RC51
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To: olezip
Apparently the woman pretending to be a Muslim did not really study the culture. She thinks that her culture is better; it may not be. Firstly, I don't recall her "pretending to be a Muslim," she only stated that she was in Saudi Arabia, wearing the legally prescribed clothing for women. Second, are you high? What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to perform to put your moral relativism to work in this situation. Here's a news flash - sexism and the oppression of 50% of your population is BAD. Where's the relativism in that?
29 posted on 06/07/2007 4:57:31 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: van_erwin

Might be interesting to read the rest, but since registration is required, I’ll pass.


30 posted on 06/07/2007 5:05:02 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: van_erwin

American women visiting or working in Saudi Arabia do NOT have to wear the prescribed clothing (burka). They do have to dress modestly (e.g. a dress that buttons to the neck like a 1900s schoolmarm). If the writer chose to wear a burkha she is pretending to be a Muslim IMO. That is, she is implying that she agrees with the precepts of Islam by wearing religious clothing.


31 posted on 06/08/2007 4:52:26 AM PDT by olezip
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To: olezip

Care to explain your assertion that Saudi Culture “might be” better than ours?


32 posted on 06/09/2007 11:02:13 AM PDT by van_erwin
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To: van_erwin
Gender apartheid. Not a word from the feminazis and NOW NAGs over the Saudis' treatment of women as invisible subjects.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

33 posted on 06/09/2007 11:14:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Saudi?

Asia

Latin America?

Who cares?

If I were a woman,there would be only one wish.

Western and white

34 posted on 06/09/2007 11:19:08 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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