Was Amnesty Bill a Strategery? - VANITY

FR ^ | 6/9/06 | jebeier

[jebeier]

Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter could definitely run against President Bush on this issue.

No matter what, the next election will not have George W. Bush on the ballot. By giving the Republicans something to run against, President Bush has done a great service to his Party.

Whether or not that was intentional is the question.

[tiki]

I dunno, I guess it could happen but I like your thinking.

[jebeier]

The original quote way by Napoleon. I always wondered about that.

[jebeier]

Maybe I’m over-reaching. I just don’t think stupidity is adequate to explain this debacle.

[Little Ray]

Personally, I don’t seem what is wrong with Vigilantes. The A-5 was beautiful aeroplane...

Oh, right.

I still don’t see what is wrong with Vigilantes. If gub’mint won’t enforce the law, somebody has gotta do it, right?

[muawiyah]

No, the WH had no idea this was going to fail. Someone in the Gang of 12 who put the junk together did however. That was the guy who wanted it put out on the Senate floor for about 15 minutes of discussion and then a vote.

He knew that the Democrats didn't control a majority of the votes if the Senators had any opportunity to discuss it.

What surprised him in the end is that he couldn't even find a majority on a cloture vote ~ Harry Reid looked positively surprised at that outcome!

The Dems are weak so it's time to strike.

[jebeier]

Anyway, I gotta run. I’ll check back in tonight...

[Kozak]

Nuff said...

[jebeier]

The Dems are weak so it's time to strike.

Striking is good. I like striking...

And what revealed that the Democrats were so weak? Hmmmmmm?

STATEGERY!

[varon]

If it is strategery, it is exceptionally subtle and devious, and would be a masterpiece. But they really couldn't possibly be that clever, could they?

No, I don't believe it's possiblistic.

[highball]

Maybe they are just that craven.

Now you've got it.

[muawiyah]

I think it's just a case of "W" believing the lie told to him by Republicans in the Senate (in private) that the Dems had this one in the bag, and that was a lie Harry Reid told the other Dems.

That is to say it's a KOINKYDINK!!!, but a highly serendipitous one at that.

Rove's still scratching his head and "W" wonders today if Putin tried to poison him at dinner yesterday.

[johnny7]

Whud’ya gonna’ say for yourself next week.... when Bush starts leaning on wobbly Republicans to breath life back into that turd of a bill?

[SIDENET]

She looks creepy in that picture.

[joe fonebone]

I have had the very same thought...gwb has wanted this forever, but to openly call the american people names who are against this....i thought this was a way to rally the base, and hopefully prevent 2006 from happening in 2008..

[UncleSamUSA]

Was calling his entire base of loyal patriotic Conservatives a bunch of unamerican bigots also part of the cunning strategery?

Sorry I dont buy it.

Bush wanted this abominable bill real bad, and he still wants it. He doesnt give a rats tutu about the future, he just wants to placate his amigos in Mexico and blast the core of the Republican base who stood by him during the entire Iraq disaster.

He has lost me forever.

[Ludicrous]

"Sarkozy just won in France by running against Chirac, who was the head of his own party."

Um, No. Sarkozy ran against Royal. Chirac supported Sarkozy.

[Enterprise]

I have also considered some of the possibilities you raised. I don’t think this was a deliberate strategery, however the fallout is most welcome.

[tiki]

I actually hope you’re right. I’m not a Bush basher.

[kevao]

And all it has cost him is a few points in the public opinion polls, =

A few points in the opinion polls, and his ENTIRE base.

And with the way he pushed this bill so publicly and fiercely, he is just as tied to illegal immigration as his good buddy Ted.