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Charlotte man converts car to veggie oil, gets fined by state_(heh tax boy)
ap ^ | 6/8/07 | ap

Posted on 06/09/2007 7:36:36 PM PDT by Flavius

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To: Army Air Corps
Must be a crappy raod that cannot bear use by a 5,000lb car.

I hate paying taxes as much as the next guy but there's no legitimate reason, in principle, to dodge road maintenance taxes if you use the road.

Simply put--if you use the road, you pay a fair share to maintain it. What's considered fair (tractor trailer v. dirt hauling truck v. car v. pickup v. skateboard) is another argument altogether. And unless you're totally clueless, you already know that tractor trailers pay mighty hefty tolls compared to cars, and for good reason.

Burning grease is no excuse for dodging your responsibility for roadway maintenance.

41 posted on 06/09/2007 9:17:27 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: Disambiguator

I knew a Freeper would comment! Cheers...


42 posted on 06/09/2007 9:25:26 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Tinian

He is not dodging responsibility. He STILL PAYS numerous transport taxes (tolls, licensing, etc.). If the state wants to tax his home made fuel, then they should be honest and do so. According to the article, he is being fined for not buying petrol at the pump. If the state wants to tax his home-made fuel, then it should propose such a tax and not fine someone for not using taxed commercial fuel. At that rate, cyclists should be fined as should people who drive electric vehicles (using the roads, but not using taxed commercial fuel).


43 posted on 06/09/2007 9:28:28 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

The *real* problem with this retrograde reactionary is, the oil was hydrogenated. /sarc


44 posted on 06/09/2007 9:31:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Also, there may have been some trans fat in it. Horrors!


45 posted on 06/09/2007 9:41:30 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mc6809e

Not in Kahlifoania.


46 posted on 06/09/2007 9:47:34 PM PDT by radioman
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To: Flavius

Do not, repeat, do not try and not pay taxes around Democrats. It only seems that Global Warmings is their religion. It may or may not be. But definitely taxes are their sacrament.


47 posted on 06/09/2007 9:49:46 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Flavius

State Makes Big Fuss Over Local Couple’s Vegetable Oil Car Fuel (Told To Pay Taxes on Fuel or Else)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794636/posts


48 posted on 06/09/2007 9:53:43 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Flavius

So if my state promises to use gas tax income for roads, then uses it for other purposes, can I sue and get my money back?


49 posted on 06/09/2007 9:54:15 PM PDT by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: Tinian

But we pay for “bike lanes” with the gas taxes!


50 posted on 06/09/2007 9:57:15 PM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Army Air Corps

Just shows you what happens these days when an avarage American takes it upon their own hands (and exits the system): Really good old American Inginuity (the type that makes this nation great! At least in the ‘olden days’). Now “we” are property of the Government folks, or at least they think that, when you try to get “Outside the System”, you die, or have your freedom taken away (through taxation or/and incarceration)..And what was this guys crime really?


51 posted on 06/09/2007 10:02:21 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

The innovation was not sacntioned by his overlords.


52 posted on 06/09/2007 10:09:47 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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But we pay for “bike lanes” with the gas taxes!

That burns me up!

53 posted on 06/09/2007 10:11:25 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: Army Air Corps
He is not dodging responsibility. He STILL PAYS numerous transport taxes (tolls, licensing, etc.). If the state wants to tax his home made fuel, then they should be honest and do so. According to the article, he is being fined for not buying petrol at the pump.

Ummm...I have to admit I posted without reading the article, but only because I've heard this basic story many times before. Usually it's about a guy burning french fry grease.

And so I admit I was a dumbass for not reading the article and apologize. Too a degree.

How can I explain this? There is diesel, there is K3 (kerosene) and there is home heating oil. I was working with a trackhoe operator who ran low on fuel and put five gallons of diesel into it to get it running. The container he used was translucent and I commented to him that I had never seen purple fuel before. He told me that it was purple because it was dyed and it was essentially home heating fuel or kerosene (either of which would've run his trackhoe) but it was dyed to show that it had been taxed. He didn't dare put even five gallons of kerosene into his piece of equipment because he could've been fined thousands of dollars. The state is very, very greedy when it comes down to fuel tax revenue.

It sounds to me that the guitar teacher was a well intentioned fool who (if his story is true) should be cut some slack. But even if true, he still wasn't paying his fair share of highway maintenance taxes.

54 posted on 06/09/2007 10:55:31 PM PDT by Tinian
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“Sounds a little like when all those people bought diesel cars ‘cause diesel fuel was “half the price” of gas.

Haha, look at it now./sarcasm”


I think Diesel is still 40 cents cheaper a gallon here in western Illinois. I don’t follow it, but I did notice a sign the other day for some reason (maybe because mid grade gas was 3.70?)

55 posted on 06/09/2007 10:58:52 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Army Air Corps

The gov’t is missing the big picture — at least his vehicle doesn’t contribute to vitamin B12 pollution. :’)


56 posted on 06/09/2007 11:07:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: IncPen

Just wait until all those Electric cars hit the road.


57 posted on 06/09/2007 11:27:38 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: TWohlford

Gas taxes are a necessity. Who “should” pay for the roads?

I’ve pointed this out for some time.

Would you rather pay $2,000 up front every year to license your car?


58 posted on 06/09/2007 11:42:55 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Army Air Corps

In some communities you do have to license your bicycle.

And the Critical Mass bicycle protestors deliberately congest roadways (and run stop lights and stop signs).

What I oppose are revenue tickets written on motorists strictly as additional funds for city operations. No city should RELY on “crime” as a way of getting bills paid. It makes them expand the definition of “crime” until they have enough $$$ and there is “never enough” $$$ to be satisfied.


59 posted on 06/09/2007 11:46:15 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Tinian
In Texas, if you attend a cattle auction, you will see rows and rows of trucks pulling cattle trailers in the parking lot. While the bidders are bidding, the state tax collectors go from truck to truck with a small hose and shove it into the tanks. They withdraw the hose to see the color of the fuel. If you are using “off road” fuel. You will be ticketed with a hefty fine. Most of these guys have tanks on the ranch for tractors and equipment that pay no tax. The temptation is often too tempting.

Does anybody argue they need a warrant to do this? Seems like a slam dunk to me, but they have been doing it for years.

60 posted on 06/09/2007 11:49:10 PM PDT by chuckles
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