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Bush Urges Independence for Kosovo
ABC News ^ | Jun 10, 2007 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 06/10/2007 6:44:05 AM PDT by indcons

President Bush, getting a hero's welcome as the first American president to visit this Balkan nation, said Sunday that there cannot be endless dialogue about achieving independence for neighboring Kosovo.

"Sooner rather than later you've got to say `Enough's enough. Kosovo's independent,'" Bush said during a news conference with the prime minister of this tiny, impoverished country.

Bush's press for statehood was aimed at Russia and others that object to Kosovo's independence. Standing alongside Prime Minister Sali Berisha, Bush said any extension of talks on Kosovo must have "certain independence" as the goal.

In response to Albania's push for NATO membership, Bush said additional political and military reforms were needed before that could be considered something the country's leaders said they understood.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allies; balkanization; freedom; immigration; islam; kosovo; muslims; russia; selfdetermination; serbia; wot
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To: indcons
Bomb Christians for the Al Qaeda backed KLA drug runners and give them a Christian Country!

Jail Border Patrol for shooting a Mexican drug runner and
have open borders for Mexico!

INSANE!

21 posted on 06/10/2007 11:42:06 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: indcons

The only good thing that came of 40+ years of Communist rule in Albania, was that Islam was destroyed in that country.

The most fanatical Muslims in Albanian diaspora are the Kosovo Albanians.

And if they get their independence, they aren’t going to stop there, they are going to want the big prize, domination of “Greater Albania.”


22 posted on 06/10/2007 11:42:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

[Kosovo is a de facto muslim country. Therefore its residents need the possibility to choose a gouvernment that is suitable to their needs. This is what we all call freedom.]

I would think that this is taking one country and dividing it into two parts, one being Islamic and therefore an enemy of the Western nations and Israel. The democrats might call this progress, conservatives realize it is disaster for the nation that is split. And Israel is another one that P. Bush wants to exploit for the Islamic murderers.


23 posted on 06/10/2007 11:45:46 AM PDT by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord, help conservatives.)
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To: dfwgator

That’s very interesting. Thanks for posting.


24 posted on 06/10/2007 11:46:38 AM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
We all know what the Serbians done to their muslim minorities.

We also know what the Muslims have done to their non-muslim minorities.

25 posted on 06/10/2007 11:46:53 AM PDT by reg45
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To: indcons
I think Slobodan Milošević is more respected today than George Bush. At least he got it and knew the enemy. The White House has been lost since November 2004. Bush's comment shows how out of touch the place is.
26 posted on 06/10/2007 11:47:03 AM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: Atlantic Bridge

[That is quite simple. Today they pose the majority among the residents. The majority rules in a democracy...]

No, they do not, that is a misconception of the liberal left who plan to destroy America and the Sovereign Constitution and freedoms we have enjoyed when our founding forefathers saw the dangers of democracy and set up a representitive republic.


27 posted on 06/10/2007 11:49:46 AM PDT by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord, help conservatives.)
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To: indcons

You also have a situation in Albania much like Iraq. There are two primary groups in Albania, Ghegs and Tosks. The Tosks mostly live in the south of the country, and they dominated the Albanian government under Communist rule. Most of the Albanians in Kosovo are Ghegs, and there is a lot of resentment between the two groups that can very easily be exploited.

That is another reason why Kosovo indpendence is a bad idea. It makes IMHO an Albanian Civil War inevitable.


28 posted on 06/10/2007 11:51:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: neutronsgalore

[So if Mexicans pose a majority of the population in the southern American states, and were to demand independence for their majority areas, we should allow it, right?]

It is the Bush doctrine that he hides so well. And the Mexican government plans to do just that(La Raza), don’t they. The only people in America who do not know it are liberals and rinos.


29 posted on 06/10/2007 11:55:13 AM PDT by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord, help conservatives.)
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To: bray
When we going to bring our troops home from Kosovo? Wasn’t it supposed to be Christmas 1997??

I'm not sure, but haven't we been in the former Yugoslavia now longer than we were ever in Vietnam?

Oh, but never mind; there's another hopeless endless quagmire, no light at the end of the tunnel, we've been involved in for.....43 years.

It's time to cut-and-run from the War on Poverty.

30 posted on 06/10/2007 12:18:40 PM PDT by franksolich (the last person in America to hear of Paris Sheraton)
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To: GideonOfWar
Muslim or not, this is not the most important. Bush and his western European allies want to open Pandora box, inspire all kind of separatist movements all over the world. If happen this precedents may backfire in to the face of US allied countries about which opinion Bush doesn’t care. Territorial integrity, this is crucial element of stability.

What interest he has in Albania to justify this political action? There is no logic here if you know that in the same time in Iraq, the Kurds are forced to live with the rest of those loons in one country.

31 posted on 06/10/2007 12:29:57 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Atlantic Bridge
>>>>>Kosovo is a de facto muslim country. <<<<<<

Kosovo is NOT a country. The fact that muslims comprise 80% of the population on 4000sq. mi. of Serbian territory does not make them entitled to a country.

(Albanianss comprise only 20% of Serbia population) You do know that, do you? But chose to tell us otherwise.

How about giving slice of Germany to Turks? I am sure that they would eagerly aggregate into 4000 sq. miles in and around Berlin if this is a requirement.

Even better, give them 4000 sq. mi. in Dresden and surroundings. Or around Nuremberg.

32 posted on 06/10/2007 12:59:25 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Well said.

Thanks for all who posted. It is quite clear to me that a Muslim Kosovo is a bad idea.


33 posted on 06/10/2007 1:08:43 PM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: DTA; Atlantic Bridge

Not Nuremburg; it is one of my favorite German cities. I spent a year there while working in an adjacent town.

Maybe the Muslims should get a part of the old East Germany. Just a suggestion /grin


34 posted on 06/10/2007 1:11:30 PM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
>>>>>>Nobody would have put Israel under the protection of Germany after 1945 as well.<<<<

WOW, this require courage. You compare the LIE (alleged genocide of Albanians) with the FACT (THE HOLOCAUST)

Anyone who compare THE HOLOCAUST with the result of Albanian terrorism is HOLOCAUST REVISIONIST. And you are Anti-Nazi.

In Germany, German Jews did nothing against fellow German Citizens. They did not murder Germnan postmen, forrest rangers, Policemen, they did not plant bombs in German cafes. They did not murder fellow Jews who were loyal to Germany. They were not used as a guerilla force of outside parties in order to provoke foreign intervention.

All of this was done by Albanian terrorists, trained by German Kommando Spezialkraefte. (Old allegiances slowly die. Germans are loyal to their NAZI allies.)

Albanian terrorists murdered more than 1000 Albanians before NATO intervention and more than 1000 after NATO occupation of Serbian province of Kosovo. All this deaths are attributed to Serbs. This is sick.

Your comparison of 6 millions Jews murdered for BEING JEWS and some 1000 Albanians muredered by Serbian police and army in counter-terrorist operations is realy sick.

If Anti-Nazis are openly expressing Holocaust revisionism, I wonder what Nazis are like. Die Fahne hoch!Die Reihen dicht geschlossen! EU marschiert Mit ruhig festem Schritt...

35 posted on 06/10/2007 1:16:22 PM PDT by DTA
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To: GideonOfWar
>>>>Albania has been on the US side since day one on the GWOT.<<<<

Dude, Albania is one thing. Kosovo another. Kosovo is NOT Albania. It is Serbia. It is only populated by Albanian illegals, like Souther California.

Following your logic, California should be given to Mexico. Or part of Turkey to Kurds in Iraq.

Btw. on June 10, W will visit Albania. And guess what, the entire security detail will be provided by USMC.

Albanian Republican Guard will not be allowed to carry arms during W's visit.

Secret Service knows better than you what kind of ally Albania really is.

36 posted on 06/10/2007 1:22:20 PM PDT by DTA
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To: GideonOfWar; All

Its time for you to recognize who your friends are. Not all albanians who are muslim are our enemy. You supporting the serbs are basically saying that you support the extension of putinism and russian foreign policy.

...

Dude, US is supporting Muslim maniacs. Saudi Arabia is infiltrating Serbia (Bosnia fell long time ago) with Wehabbi terrorists, and Saudis are US ally. US is building Islamofascist state in my country, serbia. I dont care where help will come from, Russia, Klingon Empire or Donald Duck, we just need help to protect Serbia from Islam.
As for fact that US allied with Islamofascist, it is mainly problem and tragedy for US.
With this US-Islamic alliance, WOT is thrown into dirt. Its like State Dep. took 3,000 US servicemen and mashinegun them down infront of White House. Why they fought and died for?
So W can make better oil deals with Islamofascists?

Dude, Im not worried for Serbia, we will surrvive, Im worried about US. Who will help you? Who will stop commies and Islamists within US senate?
Sometimes I believe that it is not that Serbian Kosovo is occupied by Islamofascist alone, and that US fell to communism in late 70es and ti Islam in 90es.

Russians? I this US policy continues, US Christians will seek help from Russia aswell as Serbian Christians do now.
What country will jump-in to save US from commies and Islamists?
France? Germany?... Albania?

Once I said that with this policy of love towards Islam, is just like Roosevelt went to Hitler to seek help in owerthrowing Mussolini, and calling that War On Nazism.


37 posted on 06/10/2007 1:48:33 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Uh huh, except when they demand their own country. When Serbian majorities demanded the lands where they’re majority in (Bosnia, Croatia), that was a problem, now, wasn’t it ? How is it not a problem when another majority asks the same ?


38 posted on 06/10/2007 1:53:54 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: indcons

This is just further fall out from the incompetence of the state department during the cold war.

They have successfully supported a genocide by moslems and sugar coated it to the here today gone tommorrow elected politicians.

Independent Kossovo is about an intelligent decision by GWBush as Supporting the Religious fanatics in IRAN was for Jimmy Carter.

Both did and DO lead to the same bloody result for the world.

The cheering is for a nevil chamberlin moment for GWBush.
(they only need room to grow, they only want peaceful coexistence, peace in our time.)


39 posted on 06/10/2007 1:54:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kronos77

Powerful post and I understand your points.


40 posted on 06/10/2007 2:32:49 PM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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