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He has disqualified himself. Where's our "law and order" president when it comes to enforcing the border? Meanwhile, three border patrol agents rot in prison for doing their job.
1 posted on 06/11/2007 8:24:10 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

Looking for Big Picture. Not here.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 8:25:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: nonsporting

Maybe Joseph Farah should run for President. (/sarcasm) ;)


3 posted on 06/11/2007 8:25:56 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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The most schizophrenic administration in history.

Taking Jihad to the Jihadists in Iraq was brilliant.

Opening up the border to the Jihadists (does anybody really believe they won’t be part of the stampede?) and throwing good BP agents in prison for long sentences for doing their jobs is incredibly evil or stupid (I don’t know which).

A real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, this president of ours.


4 posted on 06/11/2007 8:28:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: nonsporting

I assume Farah also wants to disqualify others such as Ted Kennedy.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 8:30:55 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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The U.S. attorney who successfully prosecuted the agents said the man they were chasing didn’t actually have a gun, shooting him in the back violated his civil rights, the agents didn’t know for a fact that he was a drug smuggler, and they broke Border Patrol rules about discharging their weapons and preserving a crime scene.

And the defense..........

How cozy was Border Patrol with smuggler?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54199


7 posted on 06/11/2007 8:32:13 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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On this issue, Bush betrayed America. He undermined the Constitution. He violated his oath of office. He forsook his sworn duty.

Defending our borders is the minimum we ask of a President. If Bush can't do that, he has deserted his base - and the country.

8 posted on 06/11/2007 8:32:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (We are NOT a nation of immigrants, we are a nation of Americans - legal, assimilated and proud-Laney)
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No one disqualified Reagan from the debate when he allowed 5 million illegals amnesty.


10 posted on 06/11/2007 8:38:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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On this issue, Bush betrayed America. He undermined the Constitution. He violated his oath of office. He forsook his sworn duty. His reckless policies of non-enforcement of the law of the land contributed massively to the crisis the nation faces.

Sounds like he should be impeached?

11 posted on 06/11/2007 8:39:37 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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On this issue, Bush betrayed America. He undermined the Constitution. He violated his oath of office.

The truth is we could make the same statement about previous Admin’s including Ronald Reagan’s,however GW has made tearing the southern border down a priority and US citizens don’t like it !!!


12 posted on 06/11/2007 8:40:13 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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The bill that was introduced, and now lies moribund in the Senate, was far too ambitious an undertaking when it was first brought up. By trying to provide an appeal to people who were totally against some of its provisions, by adding other provisions that were totally unacceptable to those who were in favor of the first set of provisions, then offering no way to bridge these differences, doomed the bill from the first.

The bill should be separated into its constituent parts, and each part considered individually and on its own merits, not lumped as a rider on the part that could gain favor with one faction or another.

The rationalization that the bill could, or should, be passed by a rushed vote taken late at night, makes the policy that recommended its quick adoption somewhat suspect, if only because it establishes and perpetuates the belief tht some law is better than no law.

But it is not as if there were no existing law concerning every provision of this bill. No law means anything, if there is no will to enforce it. Why pass another law that will simply be ignored in the future?


13 posted on 06/11/2007 8:40:47 AM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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Apparently President Bush differs from the authors opinion. So who, I wonder, does the author propose to “debate” with?

Single issue immigration hacks have been chanting so loudly on this for 6 years, and when an actual debate comes to face them, they simply disqualify any who disagree with them.

WHO does that sound like?


14 posted on 06/11/2007 8:42:40 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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Wishful thinking. Bush is president for another year and a half unless the Democrats impeach him, and if they did, it wouldn’t be for this.

The best we can do for the next year and a half is to block this bill, but putting the pressure on congress and persuading them that if they vote for it, they will be thrown out of office in disgrace in the next election.

Then the next step is to elect someone who will enforce the law, for the first time in about 20 years. It’s not just Bush, it’s not just clinton, this goes back to Jimmy Carter and before.

The only hope of doing anything about it is to convince congress, both Democrat and Republican, that Americans want the law enforced, and to elect a president with the resolve to do it.

It’s not complicated. First and foremost, we need to punish anyone who employs illegals. Second, we need to cut off all government aid. Third, we need to cut off federal aid to states and localities that provide “sanctuary” to aliens and other benefits such as free schooling, instate college tuition rates not available to legal citizens from other states, and free healthcare beyond real emergencies.

The blacks and the unions have as much to lose by amnesty as anyone else, and if the Democrats don’t want to stand up for these people, then the Republicans should offer to do so. Legal hispanics, too, have much to lose by this flood of lawbreakers into the country.

We need a strong president who is pledged to protect our country. And we need a congress that is willing to back him. That is what we need to work for. In the meantime, the most vital thing we can do is to kill any and all immigration bills that point toward amnesty in any way, shape, or form, regardless of noble sounding provisions that will never be enforced.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 8:44:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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“His reckless policies of non-enforcement of the law of the land contributed massively to the crisis the nation faces.”

Is this the same see nothing, do nothing policy that has been passed down from Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and now Bush Jr? Last chart I saw he hasn’t allowed anymore than the previous administrations.

17 posted on 06/11/2007 8:46:13 AM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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It is heartbeaking to hear that Ramos has lost 40 ponds (totally beyond Dachau!} and has been suffering in isolation with broken vertebrae for months!!!Bush and Sutton and Cordine ought to be paying the Ramos, Compean, Hernandez, and the latest border patrol agent who merely reported a typo on a document that was enabling him to adopt a sister’s children and was thrown into prison by Sutton!!!


18 posted on 06/11/2007 8:47:03 AM PDT by righteousindignation
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Since this bill appears to be almost dead, why are the Pres Bush haters and bashers still frothing? Is this not what they wanted? No bill to the House of Representatives so our many congress persons could debate and either kill it or approve it? Now thousands of illegals will continue to infiltrate this country while the screamers howl for enforcement of our current laws. Current laws which appear to be overruled in many localities by their own laws. Generalities which do not apply to specific locations will not stop the illegals. It will take federal government enforcement to make anything stick. Government enforcement which will have to come about by both sides of the aisle cooperating. Bush haters want the issue, not the solution unless it is solely theirs.
30 posted on 06/11/2007 9:03:59 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless President George Bush)
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We did that in ‘86 and found out differently.


33 posted on 06/11/2007 9:06:08 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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Then on June 17, 1954, what was called “Operation Wetback” began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
By John Dillin

35 posted on 06/11/2007 9:10:03 AM PDT by detch
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“..consciously and overtly refused to uphold his sworn constitutional duty to execute and administer the duly enacted border and immigration..”

I am still trying to figure out how this man, so promising when inaugurated the first time, can intentionally shirk his presidential duties.


37 posted on 06/11/2007 9:10:43 AM PDT by 353FMG (Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
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I have felt all along that the president and the OBLs wanted us to sit down and shut up so they could do what was “best” for us. What a crock- the President and the OBLs do not care what is best for this country- only what is best for them.


41 posted on 06/11/2007 9:15:37 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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Where's our "law and order" president when it comes to enforcing the border?

You'll have to wait another 18 months for President Thompson to take office.

57 posted on 06/11/2007 9:33:50 AM PDT by shekkian
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