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Islamism, A Disease Of The Muslim World
Middle East Transparent ^ | 6/10/07 | Samir Khalil Samir, sj

Posted on 06/11/2007 1:54:35 PM PDT by Valin

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1 posted on 06/11/2007 1:54:40 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin
Islam ism, A Disease Of The Muslim World

There fixed it.

2 posted on 06/11/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Valin

Headline almost gets it.

It would be perfect if it said, “Islam, a Disease of the Modern World.”

Or, better, “A Disease of the Past, Modern and Future World’....Now that would be right on the money.


3 posted on 06/11/2007 1:58:29 PM PDT by ConservativeDude (")
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To: Valin

This isn’t exactly true.

Arabic isn’t literally translated, so to speak. There are a number of ways to say a word or a phrase. The context is also altered by the reference it is made in.

I’ve read 4 different translations of the Koran. They aren’t all violent.


4 posted on 06/11/2007 2:03:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Valin

More Takhia for the Dhimis. Commonly refered to as B*llsh*t anywhere else.


5 posted on 06/11/2007 2:04:11 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: CzarNicky
"There fixed it.

And a good job you did!

But I think this disease of the mohammedan world should be called by its correct name mohammedanism!

6 posted on 06/11/2007 2:09:02 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Valin
Yes, they have a bad disease just as the West has it’s disease of Liberalism. We must stamp them both out.
7 posted on 06/11/2007 2:11:58 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Calpernia
As I understand it the translations and context depend on whose tent you are in at the time!
8 posted on 06/11/2007 2:15:57 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Calpernia
I’ve read 4 different translations of the Koran. They aren’t all violent.

Is that because the translators really believed it or were they trying to make Islam nonthreatening?

9 posted on 06/11/2007 2:16:00 PM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: Valin
Intellectuals are, or become college professors that make an obscene profit (heh heh heh) by talking a lot to young minds and correcting the tests that show the young mind remembered enough or not.

But for the most part, intellectuals make little impact on the real world.

Like geography, no one remembers anything unless it becomes part of your life.

10 posted on 06/11/2007 2:19:23 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Valin

“But islamism is not Islam...”

By the life of me, I do not see any difference between the two concepts. All I have to do is to read up on the history of Islam, and all I read is islamism.


11 posted on 06/11/2007 2:19:50 PM PDT by 353FMG (Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
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To: Calpernia

Oh No No No! As all right thinking true blue yankee doddle dandy American KNOW the only thing the Koran says is KILL KILL KILL.
It’s quite obvious to me that you are a 5th columnist sent here to undermine America in this war. Just like George Bush (or should I say Jorge Bush). You’re probably a Multi- culturist, one worlder who want to drain off our vital essences’s. You just wait when Tom Tancredo takes over, we’ll fix your wagon

This reply has been given the seal of approval American Sarcastic Society


12 posted on 06/11/2007 2:22:18 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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"Given the evolution in the islamic world over the last 30 years ..."

The mohammadan world has not evolved over 1300 some odd years let alone the last 30 years. It is still the same barbaric tribal cult invented by an epileptic rapist!

13 posted on 06/11/2007 2:24:26 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That is true also. But the ones, from what I understand, that make the official translations for their sect are high level Imaan.


14 posted on 06/11/2007 2:27:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: magslinger

These were official translations. So the Imaan lead their sect with these translations.

Don’t forget, that is why there is infighting amongst the Islamic Sects also.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 2:29:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Valin

You know I’m a trouble maker!


16 posted on 06/11/2007 2:30:27 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Basically the koran is powerless against evil.

Even the koran itself admits this by saying that people with evil intent are not changed by reading the koran (sura III:7)

That is very different from the Bible which is God’s word and will not return to God void or without effect. (Isa. 55:11)

This becomes an interesting dilemma in Islam because Islam has no established human hierarchy. While there are different sects of Islam they all reference as their authority....the koran. But if some are evil and some are Good, then their own koran is useless to decide.

So when truth can’t be determined through reading (mental) or though spiritual intervention (Holy Spirit) the only thing left is physical. If radicals go into a village and believe in the violent way, but the majority of the village don’t, then the “truth” is determined by who is last standing.

Guess what? Evil/violence wins every time.

You may believe in a "peaceful Islam" but the evidence of Islam shows that those "peaceful Muslims" can neither prove to their own brethern that warring jihad is wrong or stop them from engaging in violent jihad.

17 posted on 06/11/2007 2:30:55 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: Calpernia
"That is true also. But the ones, from what I understand, that make the official translations for their sect are high level Imaan."

LOL

18 posted on 06/11/2007 2:32:35 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Valin
Yes of course.

There is a difference between an Islamist and a Muslim.
An Islamist wants to kill you.
A Muslim merely wants you dead.

19 posted on 06/11/2007 2:32:48 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Valin

ping for later read


20 posted on 06/11/2007 2:33:11 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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