I thought the VaTech shooter was a valid firearms purchaser, even with the ordered outpatient treatment. Is that not correct? And will that soon be expanded to those who go for voluntary treatment?
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To: Teacher317
By the way, the main headline is the link posted on Yahoo’s main page.
The title that appears at the top of the actual article is posted at the top of my post.
To: Teacher317
require states to automate $$$$$$
Who pays or is this yet another unfunded mandate the Liberals are so fond of.
3 posted on
06/13/2007 9:07:07 AM PDT by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Treaty)
To: Teacher317
from what I understand, because he wasn’t committed, it didn’t show up on his record. it appears they’re now trying to pass legislation that if you go see a shrink, it’ll show up, unless I’m reading it wrong.
4 posted on
06/13/2007 9:09:08 AM PDT by
GeorgiaDawg32
(Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
To: Teacher317
This isn’t a response. It’s a reaction.
5 posted on
06/13/2007 9:10:08 AM PDT by
Glenn
(Free Venezuela!)
To: Teacher317
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., and a leading gun-control advocate. "This is good policy that will save lives," she said.
Just like the policy that "helped" all those people on the Long Island train?
7 posted on
06/13/2007 9:14:41 AM PDT by
beltfed308
(Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
To: Teacher317
"This is good policy that will save lives," she said.Speaking of "mentally ill"...
8 posted on
06/13/2007 9:18:47 AM PDT by
Ladysmith
((NRA, SAS) 9/11: Many of us REFUSE to Forget!!)
To: Teacher317
Interesting assumption that he wouldn’t be able to obtain the firearms for his long-planned attack if he was not able to buy them from a gun shop.
To: Teacher317
Next they’ll say “Only a maniac would want to but THAT kind of a gun!” PURCHASE DENIED!
11 posted on
06/13/2007 11:04:20 AM PDT by
2harddrive
(...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
To: niki
The only dissenting vote in the short House debate on the bill was voiced by GOP presidential aspirant Ron Paul (news, bio, voting record) of Texas. Go Ron!
13 posted on
06/13/2007 11:46:50 AM PDT by
niki
To: Teacher317
-—The NRA insisted that it was not a “gun control” bill because it does not disqualify anyone currently able to legally purchase a firearm.-—
Then what’s the point? Help me out here.
15 posted on
06/13/2007 12:19:54 PM PDT by
claudiustg
(I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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16 posted on
06/13/2007 1:40:52 PM PDT by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: Teacher317
“those adjudicated as mentally defective...”
Now JUST how long WILL it take a liberal judiciary do decide that desiring to own a gun is evidence one is mentally defective?!!!
17 posted on
06/13/2007 1:44:42 PM PDT by
mo
To: Teacher317
"In 1996, Congress did add those convicted of domestic violence to the list of those banned from purchasing firearms." The writer of the article left out one important word "misdemeanor". This was a huge expansion of gun control, and a huge mistake. Prior to this, only felonies could cause loss of gun rights. Having "felony" domestic violence convictions cause loss of gun rights, I have no problem with---but NO "misdemeanor" should do so.
To: Teacher317; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; El Gato; Squantos; King Prout; PoorMuttly; Eaker; All
I thought the VaTech shooter was a valid firearms purchaser, even with the ordered outpatient treatment. Is that not correct?No. Virginia courts ruled Cho 'an imminent danger'
That usually means the person is considered a threat to himself or others. IIRC in NY State, if 2 docs attest to that, that means involuntary commitment to a psych facility until you are not considered a threat any more. It would cause a disability on a NICS check in states that don't have privacy protections. A story in the NY Times said they found psych meds in his room. Other stories said he didn't follow up with outpatient treatment.
And will that soon be expanded to those who go for voluntary treatment?
That's what I fear. With the computerization of writing prescriptions for psychiatric meds, and their use for various diagnoses besides major depression with suicidal ideation, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, there's a potential possibility that could cause a disability on a NICS check. You know the grabbers would like to include all sorts of diagnoses if they could. I'd like to see the text of the bill.
22 posted on
06/13/2007 2:52:48 PM PDT by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: Teacher317
Sure, carefully scrutinize legitimate citizens exercising their enumerated Constitutional rights. Meanwhile no one checks anything re: some 12 million illegals (plus or minus a million). In fact many police organizations are prohibited from inquiring about their legal status.
Common Sense has tumbled over and severely gashed his head.
27 posted on
06/13/2007 4:34:41 PM PDT by
kcar
To: Teacher317
McCarthy was interviewed after this was passed. She was salivating at the prospect that MILLIONS of names would be added to the database of ineligible buyers.
29 posted on
06/13/2007 4:46:11 PM PDT by
Myrddin
To: Teacher317
The proper (constitutional) way to keep guns out of the hands of kooks is: to let them have them, and then shoot them out of their hands. Works every time.
31 posted on
06/13/2007 8:29:21 PM PDT by
budwiesest
(Why do politicians and bureaucrats hate freedom?)
To: Teacher317
And will that soon be expanded to those who go for voluntary treatment?Of course it will. The left will stop at nothing to disarm the public. Socialists love an unarmed subject.
33 posted on
06/17/2007 6:04:28 AM PDT by
meyer
(RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
To: Teacher317
I thought the VaTech shooter was a valid firearms purchaser, even with the ordered outpatient treatment. That's how I understand it.
IIRC, the problem was that he he was not/could not be involuntarily commited or adjudicated mentally incompetent (thanks ACLU.)
And of course, that Virginia Tech was a "gun free" zone.
Wonder why our legislators don't want to solve the real problems?
34 posted on
06/17/2007 6:09:36 AM PDT by
Tribune7
(A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
To: Teacher317
This is all horsehockey anyway. The one thing that would have prevented the VA Tech massacre from escalating above a single shooting or two would have been an armed student or two.
You don't see these types of massacres in areas where the general population is likely to be armed - only in liberal-controlled areas where people have had their right to keep and bear arms removed by law.
35 posted on
06/17/2007 6:11:07 AM PDT by
meyer
(RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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