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The future of downtown [Minneapolis] is threatened by beggars
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | June 13, 2007 | Katherine Kersten

Posted on 06/14/2007 5:16:45 AM PDT by rhema

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To: ken5050

They probably winter in FL.


41 posted on 06/14/2007 6:40:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Doogle

How can I lose my land if I beat the crap out of a POS downtown?

If they ask for money and will accept ****-off as an answer fine. If they continue then it is assault and I will respond.


42 posted on 06/14/2007 6:41:17 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: yldstrk
If you respond to the ugly, unsympathetic beggar with compassion as well as to the sympathetic beggar, it helps you more than the beggar.

If I run into one per week, your assessment is correct. But try 30 times DAILY!

43 posted on 06/14/2007 6:41:45 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: doug from upland
The last beggar/bum/phony I encountered was in front of a fast food restaurant. She wanted money for food. I offered to go into the place with her and buy her a hamburger and drink. Nope. She wanted the money.

That's the response I've usually encountered. Once, however, a young man did take me up on my offer and walked about two blocks with me down Hennepin Ave. (Mpls.) to a McDonald's, where we had hamburgers and french fries. (This was quite a few years ago.)

44 posted on 06/14/2007 6:48:49 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SShultz460

LOL! Nicely done.


45 posted on 06/14/2007 6:49:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: rhema
Giving to them might seem compassionate, he says, but it frequently just encourages self-destructive behavior.

I agree with this statement. If illegals can start a lawn care service with an old lawn mower and a can of gas.... so can these panhandlers.

Several years ago in Dallas, we had the same problem. The more you ignore this... the more aggressive they get. Anyway, one of the local news personalities did an undercover story on beggars who stand on the corner with signs. He would go up to those that said, "Will work for food" and offered them a job. Almost all declined and got agitated.

I personally watched a group in Austin get out of a brand new SUV, gather their signs.... spread out and walk down to their "corner".

46 posted on 06/14/2007 6:53:37 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: ken5050

There are panhandlers in the skyway, but they’re usually playing a guitar or something, and they don’t seem to be as aggressive as the ones on the street.


47 posted on 06/14/2007 6:58:37 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: Reaganesque
My wife works at Target HQ and she hasn’t noticed many panhandlers there. Although, there are “street performers” of dubious talents...

I work at Target HQ also-- but in the City Center building. There used to be a food court in City Center. God help you if you tried to eat breakfast there. At least 75% of the people sitting in the food court would be homeless, and any number would come up, while you were eating, and ask for money.

I have to laugh at some of the "performers". Usually, it'll be a guy with a guitar, a harmonica, or even a sax. One time, I had to walk past a guy that was blasting a tune on a trumpet. A couple of weeks ago, a guy was blaring away on bagpipes! The noise was deafening.

48 posted on 06/14/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: Reaganesque

I was born and raised in Minneapolis. I am a third generation Minnesotan-my family is from the Iron Range and at one time owned a thousand acres or so on Lake Vermillion. I spent every summer up north at the lake.

It was a wonderful place to live and a wonderful place to grow up at the time I was growing up. It is no longer. You couldn’t pay me enough to live there now. It breaks my heart because I knew Minneapolis when it was wonderful.

PS-Don’t feel bad about leaving. All my family and friends (naive Minnesotans all) have left except one. My brother will be leaving as soon as he can sell his house. The Lutheran and Catholic charities ruined Minnesota by bringing all those Islamists from Somalia and the DFL are the Islamist’s whores.


49 posted on 06/14/2007 7:00:26 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: rhema

I was recently accosted in a local town by a beggar. When I politely declined she proceeded to curse me.

I followed her for 4 city blocks, ordering her to leave each parking lot she went into, until we got to a gas station that all the ghetto punks hang out at. She walked across the parking lot screaming at her ghetto brothers to come beat me up, that I had robbed her, etc.

She missed noticing the police sitting there who QUICKLY inserted himself into the situation. She threatened to hit him for it and got a free ride downtown out of the deal.

Made my day.


50 posted on 06/14/2007 7:03:41 AM PDT by LetGoNow (Listen up punk. The colors are red, white, and blue, not red, white, and green. Got that? Now scram!)
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To: rhema

The young man who was killed by a random stray bullet downtown last year was a close friend of my husband’s. We went to the funeral. It was a tragedy that many people are still grieving over.


51 posted on 06/14/2007 7:04:01 AM PDT by AUJenn
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To: Eaker

They carry knives, tire irons and rubber hoses (They sting like hell). I used to hang out with these panhandlers. I even panhandled with them at one time. They’re not anybody who you would like to fight.


52 posted on 06/14/2007 7:10:04 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: jabbermog
Yes Washington - so its not my imagination !

I was actually referring to the Congress Critters. :~)
53 posted on 06/14/2007 7:10:55 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: Reaganesque

Even money says those panhandlers all have an Illinois state ID card.


54 posted on 06/14/2007 7:11:27 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: TypeZoNegative

I don’t fight fair and I carry.

I will not take any crap from bums and they won’t make me stay inside.


55 posted on 06/14/2007 7:15:50 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: toddlintown

Now they have hordes of shoe-shine bums accosting you on the sidewalk at all hours.


56 posted on 06/14/2007 7:19:41 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: TypeZoNegative

I don’t doubt that for a second. I’m told Las Vegas and Los Angeles do the same to Salt Lake City. Round up the homeless and stick them on a bus to somewhere else.


57 posted on 06/14/2007 7:29:02 AM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney 2008)
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To: rhema

I was asking a guy here at work about a local restaurant I had heard about that is supposed to be pretty special. He told me all about it and I was curious as to where it was. The following conversation is real......

Me: “So, where about in downtown Minneapolis is this place?

Him: “Um....it’s....ahhh.... right across from ‘Block E’”

Me: “So, bring a gun?”

Him: “Bring a gun.”


58 posted on 06/14/2007 7:29:17 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: AppyPappy

LOL, great response.


59 posted on 06/14/2007 7:29:18 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: rhema
I remember about 10 years ago coming out of a hotel on Bay in San Francisco for an early morning walk. Down the block I sidestepped a big pile of human excrement.

The bums in SF have always been agressive especially downtown. I remember when the city was distributing food coupons so you could give them to the homeless and there was a big to do about it at the city council. The folks wanted cash.

I don't know what can be done about this if you live in such a city, what with liberal city officials and judges. Perhaps the business owners united will be enough pressure to get something done.

60 posted on 06/14/2007 7:37:23 AM PDT by herMANroberts
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