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Taping was legal, defense attorneys in wiretap case say[Taped Police-7yrs Jail]{Pennsylvania}
The Patriot News ^ | 14 June 2007 | Matt Miller

Posted on 06/14/2007 8:40:57 AM PDT by BGHater

Cumberland County District Attorney David Freed said he will review all evidence before deciding whether to prosecute an 18-year-old Carlisle man for taping a police officer during a traffic stop.

But two defense attorneys versed in wiretapping cases said Brian D. Kelly shouldn't even have been charged.

The state Supreme Court has ruled that taping police in such public situations is legal, they said.

Freed said the evidence he'll study will include not only police recordings of the May 24 incident, but the audio and video Kelly shot before Carlisle police arrested him on a felony wiretapping charge.

"Once the evidence is reviewed, we'll be in a better position to speak about it," Freed said yesterday.

Kelly is charged under a state law that forbids the recording of oral communications without consent. That count carries a penalty of up to 7 years in prison.

"When people interact with the police, they ought to be able to record that to show a judge and a jury what happened," Camp Hill lawyer Dennis Boyle said.

The key, said Simon Grill, a Reading attorney, is that police can't expect privacy while performing their public duties.

"If it's a public interaction, I think the police have a tough row to hoe" to secure a wiretapping conviction, Grill said.

Dozens of phone calls and e-mails The Patriot-News received since Kelly's story appeared in Monday's editions have been overwhelmingly critical of his arrest.

Police said Kelly was riding in a pickup truck that was pulled over for traffic violations and was arrested after obeying an officer's orders to turn off his camera and hand it over.

Kelly said he spent 26 hours in county prison until his mother posted her house as security for his $2,500 bail.

Freed said that, in general use, the wiretap law is more a curb on the police than a hindrance to the public. The law requires court approvals before police can set up wiretaps to monitor suspected criminal activity, he noted.

Still, he said, the law is "so broad" it could be interpreted as barring recording of anyone's conversation without consent.

Wiretapping cases his office handles more usually involve people locked in bitter romantic or business disputes who are trying to secretly record another party doing something wrong, he said.

Grill and Boyle said case law is firmly on Kelly's side.

Boyle cited a 1998 state Supreme Court decision that voided a civil lawsuit filed by a York County police officer who accused his chief of violating the wiretapping law.

The court ruled that Officer James Agnew Jr. had no grounds to sue Hellam Twp. Police Chief Michael Dupler for secretly using an intercom to listen to officers' conversations in the squad room.

Agnew had no "justifiable expectation of privacy" in such a setting, the court found, noting that other officers could overhear what was said.

The court also cited an earlier ruling that voided wiretapping charges against a corrections officer who secretly tape-recorded a state trooper interrogating him about alleged wrongdoing while another person was present.

"Pennsylvania is a state that says all [recordings of conversations] require prior consent. But you have to have the expectation of privacy first," Grill said. "There's no expectation of privacy with a police officer."

Boyle, who has offered to help Kelly in his legal battle, said citing the Agnew ruling is usually enough to convince prosecutors to drop wiretap charges in such cases.

"I'd like to clarify this so no other people are arrested like this," Boyle said.

MATT MILLER: 249-2006 or mmiller@patriot-news.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; film; pennsylvania; police; wiretapping
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To: Paisan
"Maybe someone else remembers this."

I do. The civilian was found guilty of Illegal Wiretapping and was sent to prison. This was in 1999.

21 posted on 06/14/2007 10:03:07 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: NorthFlaRebel
, anyone have an explanation as to why someone who did this is so dangerous or so wrong that they should go to prison?

For daring to record what police were doing. After all if video evidence of interactions with police was common, the police couold no longer routinely lie to get convictions and will have to stick to the truth - a major blow to law enforcement and government in general.

22 posted on 06/14/2007 10:08:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Orange1998

Nah it was the cop who initiated this. You can have all the stupid laws on the books, but it takes a moron with a gun and a badge to enforce them. That’s were the rubber meets the road. Despotic cops=despotic state.


23 posted on 06/14/2007 10:47:37 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: from occupied ga

I understand what you are saying, but the law(s) was/were not originally created to stop people from recording LEOs. Most cases prosecuted don’t even involve any government actor. I’m just trying to understand the mindset of those in State legislatures who decided recording someone without their knowledge and consent rises to the level of a criminal tort which must be punished with(or up to) a lengthy prison sentence. It just doesn’t make any sense to me. Seems like a clear civil case or tort to me.


24 posted on 06/14/2007 10:54:05 AM PDT by NorthFlaRebel
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To: BGHater

People working for governments do not normally have a reasonable expectation of privacy while doing that work. They work for the public, thus what they do is open to scrutiny. Possible exceptions are attorney/client priveledge and closed door meetings, restrooms etc. Whoever started this crap was an idiot. The government works for the people not the other way around. Sometimes they need to be reminded of that simple fact.


25 posted on 06/14/2007 11:04:03 AM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: NorthFlaRebel
It just doesn’t make any sense to me

Most laws don't make any sense to me. In fact government is making less sense all the time.

26 posted on 06/14/2007 11:17:46 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: rolling_stone
The government works for the people not the other way around

This is obviously NOT the view of the government and it bureaucrats - armed and otherwise.

27 posted on 06/14/2007 11:24:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: BGHater

That’s one really really dumb cop. He is going to lose, bigtime.


28 posted on 06/14/2007 11:27:50 AM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: BGHater

Time to change the law. The traffic system is already more one-sided than the criminal system, with the government having a conflict of interest - the government sets the speed limits, sets the fines, and is allowed to profit from the fines from which police officers and the judges are paid and squad cars are purchased! The least that should be done is to pass a law that clearly allows citizens to tape the police during their official duties.


29 posted on 06/15/2007 11:08:02 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Husker24
"What if you have a camera hidden in your home, and catch someone breaking into your house and stealing something. Can you be charged under this law?"

Yes, but only if your tape contains AUDIO as well as video.

30 posted on 06/15/2007 11:28:59 AM PDT by Hoof Hearted
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To: jan in Colorado

ping


31 posted on 06/15/2007 8:40:37 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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