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Spokesman for President Bush Posts on Free Republic About Immigration Bill
Thursday, June 14, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 06/14/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT by kristinn

A spokeman for the Bush administration sent an e-mail to Jim Robinson and myself confirming the authenticity of a post on Free Republic this afternoon regarding the immigration bill currently before the Senate as having been posted on behalf of the White House.

The spokesman, Nicholas Thompson, works for the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives. The Politico reported yesterday that Thompson and Kerrie Rushton, associate directors in the Office of Strategic Initiatives who work under Karl Rove, would be engaging the blogosphere on the immigration bill.

Thompson's post is on the thread titled Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill, a vanity posted by philman_36. Thompson posted at comment #53.

Thompson's e-mail to Free Republic included a brief introduction and the text of his posted comment:

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I just posted a response to the post "Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill."

The White House appreciates the opportunity to respond on Free Republic.

Response:
I would like to point out that the Secretary is authorized to reduce or mitigate penalities against employers who in good faith are trying to comply with the law. Certainly, we understand that not all employers knowingly hire illegal immigrants; this will remain the case, especially before the bill’s new secure documentation requirements are fully phased in. We do not seek to wrongly penalize honest employers who unknowingly hire illegal immigrants, therefore we reserve the right to reduce or mitigate their penalties if the employer can show good faith compliance in following the law.

For those employers who do knowingly hire illegal immigrants, please know that we intend to penalize these employers strongly, and the Administration has already stepped up these penalties in the last couple of years. For example, a 2005 program, “Operation Rollback,” assessed $15,000,000 in civil fines to employers, an amount greater than the sum of administrative fines collected in the previous eight years and was the largest worksite enforcement penalty in US history. In the first quarter of FY07, criminal and civil forfeitures have totaled $26,700,000 for employers.

As a reminder of what’s in the bill, fines for hiring an illegal worker are $5,000 maximum per illegal worker for the first offense, $10,000 maximum per illegal worker for the second, $25,000 maximum per illegal worker for the third , and $75,000 maximum per illegal worker for the fourth. In addition, the bill increases the maximum criminal penalty for a pattern or practice of unlawful hiring twenty-five-fold, from $3,000 to $75,000, and would impose a prison term of up to six months. This represents a significant increase in fines for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Nicholas Thompson
White House Office of Strategic Initiatives


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To: kristinn
For those employers who do knowingly hire illegal immigrants, please know that we intend to penalize these employers strongly, and the Administration has already stepped up these penalties in the last couple of years.

LOL! Yeah, right. And now we're supposed to believe that after 6 years of having a welcome mat at the border, this administration is NOW serious about enforcing existing laws? How stupid do they think we are?
581 posted on 06/14/2007 2:24:26 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: RJL

They are already siphoning off border patrol agents for secret service duties...hehehe bet they will really work to protect the President like he has done for them.


582 posted on 06/14/2007 2:24:33 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: Deo volente; nthompsonwhitehouse
WE DON’T WANT YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER, MR. PRESIDENT!!!

Amen! Changes to American sovereignty like NAU/SPP should be put to a referendum of WE THE PEOPLE, not decided by a few fatcats!

583 posted on 06/14/2007 2:26:49 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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To: CindyDawg
No one has responded yet? Figures. Yall ping me if Dubya..no if Mr. Bush shows up.

From what I've read on here, he's going around from conservative site to site posting this spam looking for idiots who'll believe it I guess.

584 posted on 06/14/2007 2:26:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: b9

Mr. Thompson has been making the rounds.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/nthompsonwhitehouse/2007/may/31/white_house_response_on_worksite_enforcement


585 posted on 06/14/2007 2:28:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Pay me for it and I’d do the same. :)


586 posted on 06/14/2007 2:29:04 PM PDT by M203M4 (Vote Fruity Giuliani or the terrists will win! Abortion & gun control = price for freedumb!)
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To: kristinn
Hey Nick,

Tell your boss we busted our asses to make sure Gore didn't steal the election. We busted our asses to see that he was re-elected. We have defended him on what was good for the country and blasted him for when he royally screwed up! We have stood up for him when he wouldn't and now he stabs his base in the back like this!!!!

The liberals all call him a liar for the WMD debacle, and we stood up for him. But now I'm starting to realize that the libs are right. He is a liar! He said he would not sign Finance reform, and did. Said he would protect our country against Islamo Facists and then tried to sell Dubia Ports deal. Said he would appoint only hard core conservatives to the bench and give us Harriet Myers! Said he would never engage in nation building, and thats exactly what he is doing in Iraq.

We've had it! You cannot sell us sh!t as shinola and by the mere fact that you come crawling here to try to still sell the same lie just shows what a pathetic person the President has become.

Now its a matter of trust. Re-instill that trust by ENFORCING THE EXISTING LAWS ON THE BOOKS! FINISH BUILDING THE FENCE! DRYING UP ALL BENEFITS AND SERVICES TO NON-AMERICANS! BAN MONEY TRANSFERS TO ALL NON- CITIZENS!

You won't have to get rid of them, they will leave on their own! Stop encouraging bums to stay and they will leave! They are hurting us taxpayers!

587 posted on 06/14/2007 2:29:36 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: nthompsonwhitehouse; tgslTakoma; kristinn
Mr. Thompson,

The problem is that no matter how badly President Bush wants his legacy to include comprehensive immigration reform (a combination of border security and bring illegal workers out of the shadows w/legal status) there is no way that he can overcome the following FACTS about this administration's failure to enforce immigration laws. The President has lost our trust at is pertains to the immigration issue. It will not be regained during his presidency. And it doesn't help him at all to belittle and attempt to marginalize those who are speaking out on this issue.

Fix the following by actually enforcing the laws. Secure the borders. And then a future president may be able to come back to the people and convince us to support some sort of guest worker program and potential legal status for those immigrants who here illegally.

(Stats from the DHS 2004 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, Analysis is mine.)

Employer Investigation Efforts of U.S. Immigration Authorities:

Fiscal Year Worksite Arrests Notices of Intent to Fine
1993 7,630 1,302
1994 7,554 1,063
1995 10,014 1,056
1996 14,164 1,019
1997 17,554 865
1998 13,914 1,023
1999 2,849 417
2000 953 178
2001 735 100
2002 485 53
2003 445 162
2004 159 3

The average annual worksite arrests under Clinton was 9,329 arrests. The average annual worksite arrests under President Bush is 456. This is a 95 percent reduction in average annual worksite arrests under President Bush.

The average annual notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens under Clinton was 865. The average under President Bush is 79.5. This is a 90 percent reduction in average annual notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens.

And then there is 2004 where, under President Bush, only 3 notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens were done. 3!! But that was President Bush's worst year. Let's compare best years then.

Under Clinton his best year for Worksite Arrests was 1997 with 17,554 reported. President Bush's best year was 2001 with 735 worksite arrests reported. This is a 99.7 percent reduction in worksite arrests under President Bush when comparing best years.

Clinton Presidency, Total Aliens Expelled:
1993 1,285,952
1994 1,074,781
1995 1,364,688
1996 1,643,108
1997 1,555,116
1998 1,743,273
1999 1,755,754
2000 1,861,933
Total over 8 years: 12,284,605
Average Annual Total Aliens Expelled: 1,535,575

Bush Presidency, Total Aliens Expelled:
2001 1,432,061
2002 1,084,661
2003 1,076,483
2004 1,238,319
Total over 4 years: 4,831,524
Average Annual Total Aliens Expelled: 1,207,881

The average annual total of aliens expelled under President Bush is 327,694 LESS than the average under President Clinton. That is a 21.3 percent reduction in aliens expelled compared between Clinton and President Bush.

Deportable Aliens located in non-border sectors (interior enforcement):
Clinton presidency, last four years:
1997 44,246
1998 39,096
1999 42,010
2000 32,759
Total: 158,111

Bush presidency, first four years:
2001 30,496
2002 25,501
2003 26,492
2004 21,113
Total: 103,602

Total deportable aliens located in interior sectors during the first four years of the Bush presidency represents a 34.4 percent drop compared to the previous four years - the last four years of the Clinton presidency.

Deportable Aliens Located:
Clinton Presidency first four years:
1993 1,327,261
1994 1,094,719
1995 1,394,554
1996 1,649,986
Total: 5,466,520

Clinton Presidency last four years:
1997 1,536,520
1998 1,679,439
1999 1,714,035
2000 1,814,729
Total: 6,744,723

Bush Presidency first four years:
2001 1,387,486
2002 1,062,279
2003 1,046,422
2004 1,241,089
Total: 4,737,276

Total deportable aliens located dropped by 29.7 percent in the first four years of the Bush Presidency compared to the previous four years - the last four years of the Clinton Presidency.

Sources: DHS Yearbook of Statistics 2004 and other DHS and INS sources.


588 posted on 06/14/2007 2:32:46 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: calcowgirl

My, my.
Busy little bee, isn’t he.


589 posted on 06/14/2007 2:33:44 PM PDT by b9
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To: dirtboy
Free Republic would appreciate the White House taking the opportunity to listen to the overwhelming conservative grassroots opposition to this bill and stop trying to ram this down the throats of conservatives who voted for Bush twice and often were out in the streets supporting the war effort.

Excellent post.

When he needs the help of conservatives in his future endeavors with the Democrats, after insulting and belittling us for 'not knowing what's best for the country' and telling our Senators to ignore their 'irate constituents', I doubt many of us would be available.
590 posted on 06/14/2007 2:34:46 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: kristinn

bttt


591 posted on 06/14/2007 2:35:02 PM PDT by hattend ("Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: b9; SoCalPol

Here’s another one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1847089/posts

Conservatives Left Behind” [The Right’s love-hate relationship with George W. Bush.....]
National Review ^ | Kathryn Jean Lopez
Posted on 06/08/2007 9:53:16 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Is the White House just not paying attention?

I know someone in the White House has Internet access — because Nicholas Thompson and Kerrie Rushton from the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives have been e-mailing back and forth in response to Corner posts about the Bush-Kennedy immigration deal for weeks now. Do they not talk to Tony Snow? Does no one talk to the president? Does the president just not care what his conservative allies on so many issues think?

I know I’m not the only one who sometimes suspects the latter.


592 posted on 06/14/2007 2:35:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Congress does not change laws that are working. If in fact Bush got this agenda passed it would be on the books and working as immigration reform. You suppose that America would back a Democrat congress changing laws on a whim. You are the one posting fallacy.

The Dems will have no political capital to change it if Bush gets it done.

On the other hand if people like you do not allow him to “GET IT DONE” then you are going to be stuck with whatever Hillary wants to do to fix the problem and like I said before do you like her plan better?

Oh wait now tell me you’d have to hear it first... as if the left will allow their lawmakers to put up a wall on the Mexican border or(snicker, snicker) actually hold people accountable for being here illegally...

Good luck... This is why I said before the NOV06 elections the Republicans are going to lose these wedge issues and lose they have.


593 posted on 06/14/2007 2:36:06 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (The saddest day in America will be the day that George W. Bush is vindicated.)
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To: b9

yeah he is and he buzzzz, he spinzzzz :)


594 posted on 06/14/2007 2:36:53 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: TexasCajun
If the bill passes, there will be no Illegal Immigrants for companies to hire? right?

You must have been great at puzzle books as a kid--seeing the answer among all the clever obfuscation.

595 posted on 06/14/2007 2:37:18 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Spiff
Good post there.

And what's incredible, even after 9-11 there was no interest is sealing the borders.

And this man expects us to trust him?

596 posted on 06/14/2007 2:37:24 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Those BP guys will do more prison time than many convicted Japanese war criminals ...thanks Bush!)
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To: Spiff

Thanks for the facts.

I need them for some debating I’m doing with a neighbor. Funny thing is, he’s against this amnesty bill as well. We’re just debating the specifics about how bad Bush is on securing the country vs. his predecessors.


597 posted on 06/14/2007 2:39:08 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: K-oneTexas; everyone

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


598 posted on 06/14/2007 2:39:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: kristinn
We don’t need more immigration legislation. We need to enforce our existing immigration laws.
599 posted on 06/14/2007 2:41:30 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: b9

DON’T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS WH STAFFER. KEEP CALLING, FAXING, E-MAILING YOUR SENATORS!!!! IT IS NOT OVER YET!


600 posted on 06/14/2007 2:41:34 PM PDT by bmw_n_me (Keep working! Millions depend on your welfare!)
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